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We played defense differently thanks to the injuries. With hoecht they were bigger and gave different looks on 3rd downs. yesterday I don’t recall Dorian Williams ever even playing defense and they stayed in nickel and got run over again. the injuries on defense are unbelievable. I am dying to know why they never went base defense a little yesterday or got Williams involved at end on third downs. This was a totally different defense from the previous two weeks.

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. DEI trans Environmentalists Hamas Etc... All part of the cultural Marxism plan. All different fingers of the same commie fist.

Kromer should be interim HC starting this week. That gives Pegula and his brain trust time to get the best candidates in and honestly Kromer will do just as good if not better this year as the HC

Cardinal directions only! None of this direction mixing in this family!

Because I expected a win?

KJ Hamler should be in for a workout soon.

Id be surprised if he is back before Christmas. Hamstrings are the worst. Come back a hair too soon and you pop it and return right back to square one. There is no real remedy for it other than not running full speed for as long as you can.

It's not just Vrabel, McDaniels, and Maye's rise. It's the 14 new starters (rookies and FA's) at LT, LG, C, RT, RB, WR1, WR3, NT, DE, 3 LB's, FS, CB2 - plus CB1 & stud DE returning after missing last season. 16 out of 22. Plus new TE2, FB. WR5, K. There's only 6 guys who played a big role from last year's team who still play a big role. New coaching staff, 16 new starters, a couple of new execs in the front office to assist Wolf. It's like the team plane crashed and they started over.

Aaron Kromer. McDermott has been very vocal about giving credit to Kromer in the media.

I'm not taking the blame for that fiasco... I'll just throw Virgil under the bus. 😆 The Coaches and players sleepwalking through another game isn't on me or Virgil for that matter. 3 games this year the team has looked disinterested... 3 out of 9 WTH is that ?

I don't believe the Bills are out of it or done. Could definitely be a team that clicks and wins 4 playoff games in a row... But looking at the schedules, how the Bills are built and playing, looking at the Patriots (even the Colts/Broncos/Chargers)... it is a huge uphill climb at this point. I haven't felt that the Bills have been this vulnerable since Covid. The fact that there is no/zero wide receiver threat at all is unprecedented in a real contending team. Kincaid pulled his hammy and is probably going to out past Christmas and he was the only credible threat past 5 yards down the field. Cook is good, but stop him and the offense is done. Defense is broken/injured, undersized and any back who runs downhill is going to feed them their lunch. They can sell out to stop the RB, but then, any of the other 31 teams who have a better WR room than the Bills will make them pay. They are going to need to perform a pretty extensive surgery on this roster. So much dead money tied up in worthless, redundant, aging, and/or oft-injured players. The world is New England's oyster for the time being with a good coach, good OC, hungry roster, and a competent QB on a rookie deal.

I hated McDermott's demeanor in his post game press conference. He should be pissed off. His team is not playing hard, or with any kind of mental or physical edge in a lot of these games.

You could’ve left off the “at picking offensive coordinators” part

You cant say anything about Josh on this board. He is Teflon and beyond reproach. He has earned that to a degree with how great he is been on the field. He is tough as nails, he plays through injuries, which I also appreciate a great deal. But the guys who play until late in their 30's or early 40's are almost manic and obsessive with a need to win or be the greatest to ever do it. I dont see that with him.

The Bills as an organization have largely bucked the trend of quick, athletic and competent wide receivers, instead choosing sluggish, sometimes awkward candidates with poor route running and bad hands and it isn’t paying the dividends I suppose some hoped it would. I really do hate it for Josh who is having his prime years waisted by an organization that absolutely refuses to get him any help. If only the NFL allowed a period where teams could trade players and assets to try and fill obvious holes in their roster. If only……..

There is nothing different to do except punt on first, second or third down.

And it will likely continue. If for any reason Joe Brady is out as OC after this year, the Bills will conduct a farce interview process to comply with Rooney Rules and hire from within. My guess is it would be Ronald Curry. But that's just a guess on my part. If they move on from Babich, I see McDermott taking over permanently again. I don't think there's a guy on staff that would be seriously considered.

My solution would be to transition Kincaid to WR during the off-season. Put on some muscle mass and drop his weight about 10 pounds. Creates some match up advantages against most corners. There's your 50/50 ball guy. Not blazing fast but neither are productive receivers like Puka Nucua. That puts Knox on the field for more plays and makes Coleman expendable if he doesn't produce. Then go get a genuine #1 WR.

Ken Dorsey was a proven legit QB coach who worked with Allen for a few seasons. How was he the wrong hire? I get it didn't work out, but in no way was there obvious warning signs. Joe Brady was a bit different. BIG TIME college experience, some OC experience. Again, what huge signs were there that Brady would be a bad hire? The fact he'd been fired before? That will eliminate a large amount of prospects from the pool. Bobby Babs - The saying around here was "everything he touches turns to gold." Remember? Everyone loved that hire after he had a multiple, legitimate outstanding seasons as a positional coach. Learn the ropes under McD, who is a great defensive coach. Ya'll are acting like these are 3rd rate hires from the Cleveland Browns. I would love for anyone, someone, to find a quote from McD where he says he wants to be a run first, conservative passing game. Especially considering 2 of his last 3 OCs were highly aggressive in the passing game.

No, it's a Brady / McDermott rule. N - S, E - W, they can grasp. Send a reciever over a Northwest route, and they're stymied. 🤔

Did everyone feel the same after realistically on the field dominating the Chiefs and Panthers? It's one game guys. You aren't going to fire a coach and GM halfway into a 6-3 season.

Brady has nothing to work with. Only the leader in total TDs for the past 9 seasons and a top 3 runner 🤣 I get we aren’t on the level of the greatest show of turf, but this is BS.

Ha, if they wait too much longer Allen will be on the wrong side of 30 and won't be running as much. McDermott may yet get his wish.

if browns move on from hc stefanski...he is what we need.

Yes, this is all part of the brilliant plan detailed in another thread to secretly create an elite offense. 🫤