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Go to correlation between this and political parties. North Carolina is a blue state, Georgia a blue state South Carolina a purple state after years of being blue. Georgia and North Carolina have been blue for almost the entire existence. Virginia strongly blue. Alabama and Mississippi you have to look at on smaller levels but they have been failed by the same systemic problem. That problem isn't called systemic racism, it's called systemic Democrats. But Democrats are usually the most racist so here we are...

That’s false. They obviously don’t know what they are talking about. Allen is 2nd in MVP odds to Mahomes right now. Maye has moved into 3rd place now though. He is making a big leap.

What? 1 for 1 move if Ed to IR and Poyer already active bc Rapp went to IR

I don’t agree that James Cook is the best player on offense but I do think that his delta from his performance and a league average performance is maybe 2-3 wins at this point. And there’s no one else sans Josh that is even close to that. He is as single-handedly winning games as any running back can be. He is the only other dude with juice on the team.

By saying that Allen is the primary reason the Bills have been to the playoffs 6 straight seasons, have won 5 straight division titles and have been a leading SB contender the last 5 seasons is not the same thing as saying Allen is the "savior" and is "perfect". Clearly no NFL QB is perfect or even close to being perfect throughout an entire season. And those of us defending Allen have never said he was. But you are deluding yourself if you think that this team minus Allen would have had near the success it has had over the last 6 seasons. And yes McD & Bean are good at their jobs. The question has always been are they good enough?

Good. I don't feel bad for him at all. He took the money and now he's upset they suck?

I remember it, watching my former hero get going downhill was a thing of beauty. From 1972-76, for a five year period, no one ever did it better. Too bad it turned out how it did.

Yesterday our OC said we don’t need to throw passes downfield to be dynamic.

If he stands pat then he needs to be fired. He has got to do something otherwise this team will be an also ran. With a #1 or reasonable facsimile they at least have a chance, assuming Brady can pull his head out of his…

These are good examples, and I saw a few others during the game, too. Remember, in training camp and in the beginning of the season, Josh was intentionally looking for Coleman, and they worked a lot on their timing. That's all gone away now. Now it seems Josh seems only to go to Keon on throws that are contested catches where Keon has to win a 50-50 battle for the ball. Three years ago, two years ago, when we all were saying Josh was the MVP and he wasn't getting the award, he was hitting wide open receivers a lot because the schemes were getting guys open and Josh understood where those openings were. Now, it seems like every completion is a struggle. Cook and Johnson have disappeared from the passing game. Kincaid and Knox have disappeared. I simply don't believe that all of these guys are that much worse than all the other receivers in the league.

It makes sense. The Bills laid two consecutive eggs. No one performs at 100%, 100% of the time. It's very possible that the preparation intensity level dropped, leading to disappointing performances. Lesson learned, move on. Or, he is focused, listening, and learning. I'll compare this to Cook's supposed "unhappy demeanor." We all have different personalities.

This has always been the most likely outcome barring a Herschel Walker type offer

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/10/26/bbc-interviewer-demolishes-kamalas-excuses-for-biden-cover-up-n4945283 "There is a very serious difference between capacity to be president of the United States and the capacity to run for President of the United States," she claimed, focusing her concerns on Biden's "endurance" and "energy" for campaigning. Think about that for a moment. She's essentially arguing that the grueling demands of a presidential campaign are somehow more taxing than actually being Commander-in-Chief, making life-and-death decisions in the Situation Room, and managing global crises. “EXACTLY” -Frankish

Reggie Gilliam needs to be on any up list. We need to run primarily 13 personnel

To win in the payoffs, one must get to the playoffs.

Is Josh running less and less efficiently? His numbers at least so far look similar to averages and other games for 2023 and 2024. IMO he’s getting happy feet in the pocket & making a few bad throws when the first reads are to the wideouts and a bit frustrated with the result. I don’t think the wideouts are providing adequate windows. Run game is fine, passing to the TE and slot seems to be working. We have no production in the passing attack going to the wideouts. Seems pretty obvious to me as to what’s broken. Only other thing I’d add is that I’d like to see the RB’s used to catch a few balls.

I'm ALREADY annoyed about the "Bills always beat them in the regular & lose to them in the playoffs" narrative. Like Manning never eventually got past the Pats, or Jordan never ended up getting past the Pistons, or basically an endless list of sports narratives being true until they weren't.

Finally the game we've been holding all of our cards for. We'll finally see what The Bills really look like!!

what is he 21? hasn't matured yet

He made one like it to Kincaid yesterday. The 3 sideline throws he's made over the last 2 games that went incomplete because the WR's couldn't get both feet in bounds was vintage Allen, particularly the throw to Shakir on 3rd & 10 against the Falcons. The 19 yard TD strike to Knox on 3rd & 13 in the Atlanta game was vintage Allen as was the opening play 50 yard strike to Palmer.

Hope it’s not like 2020 when we lost the regular season game at OP and the playoffs game at Arrowhead.

You gotta understand context to appreciate OJ's accomplishments. First of all, the NFL was different back then. Even though QBs were already producing more yards than RBs, RBs were still considered just as important. In the 1960s when OJ was drafted, more RBs than QBs won Heisman trophies and got picked first overall. OJ's rookie contract was the biggest rookie contract in history, surpassing any QB's. So defenses were built differently back then. Nickel and Dime defenses were called "Pass-Prevent" and mostly used only at the very end of a half. OJ played against heavy 4-3 and 3-4 fronts - no light boxes ever. Coaches thought you had to "establish the run first" to make downfield passing work, so defenses were determined to stop offenses from running. LBers were big, brawny, blood-thirsty thugs who took sadistic joy in punishing RBs, not the small, rangy, coverage LBs of today. DEs were freakishly huge bone-crushing run-stuffers, rather than pirouetting sack-artists with elite "lean" like Von. Finally, OJ was the engine of the Bills offense so opposing defenses had one clear overriding goal: stop OJ - or at least slow him down. In 1973, when OJ rushed for 2,000+, our QB (Joe Ferguson) passed for less than 1,000 yards despite starting every game. The main function of a Bills QB was to hand off to OJ and defenses knew this. As for the Thanksgiving game in Detroit, I remember thinking that the numbers were great but (1) we lost, and (2) it wasn't OJ's best game in the sense that the holes were bigger than in some other games, the yards easier to come by. In terms of athleticism and artistry, OJ has better games. Then again, the Bills QB that day was backup Gary Marangi. He wasn't quite as bad as Nate Peterman, but comes very close. He went 4 of 21 for 29 yards and a pick on that Thanksgiving. In other words, our passing attack was no threat at all and the Lions were entirely focused on stopping OJ yet couldn't.

I agree with this. And what it speaks to is the player personnel and style philosophy that I talk about often. McDermott's philosophy is that good, versatile, competitive players can be molded into a team that, as a team, plays better than teams with more talented but less versatile players. That's certainly the philosophy for receivers, but it's also the philosophy for the offensive line. I mention the line because another part of the problem that the offensive is having is inconsistent pass protection. They aren't, as a group, good pass protectors. Allen has been in trouble in the pocket often this season. He's taken several sacks while in the pocket. Defensive line, the same thing. If Rousseau is your star, you'd better be running really good schemes. That may be a good philosophy for team building. One thing that's good about a team that depends on teamwork to win, rather than star talent, is that when injuries happen, the next man up isn't replacing a star, he's replacing just another guy. However, that philosophy requires that the team have excellence in another place, and that's coaching. If you're going to play with average talent and rely on teamwork to win, you need coaches who build teamwork. And those coaches have to have excellent schemes in place, week after week, because executing those schemes is what gives your average talent an edge. We definitely are not seeing that edge in the receiving game. And, to be honest, I don't expect to see that edge in the running game against the Chiefs. And we've only seen the edge in the defensive game inconsistently. I really don't think it's a Beane problem. I think Beane is getting the kind of players McDermott wants. I mean, instead of trading up for a receiver, he traded back to take Coleman, and no one in the football world thought Coleman was a guy who would blow the top off defenses. They took him for a reason. Most people around here were excited when Beane took Kincaid, and the guy has kind of disappeared. Since Diggs, the only quality receiving talent Beane has gone after was Cooper. It's completely clear that the problem lies in the kind of game McDermott is trying to play. I mean, think about this way: Do you really think Beane would still be the GM if McDermott were sitting in his office every night for the past three seasons thinking, "why can't Brandon get me at least one good receiver?" I don't. If that's what McDermott thought, he would have told Terry Pegula he needed a new GM, and Beane would have been gone. McDermott has the kind of players he wanted, and he and his coaches are not delivering the kind of success he thought they could.

Tre doesn't have the speed to keep up with Worthy or Rice. Hairston better be playing almost all snaps

I was thinking the same thing....