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Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?
EasternOHBillsFan replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Worst? Dak, has to be... he performs worse than Tua, is regressing, and will never be replaced by the Jones clan. At least the Jags understand that Trevor Lawrence has to make good on their investment or he's out... all Dak has to do is collect checks. -
Yikes, stay safe my friend
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That’s well south of us, but one helluva storm just popped up here! Yikes! Power flicked and lost cable. You may notice that my two sad song contributions have a bit of a theme. That’s about as sad as a parent can get.
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Former Ravens kicker Justin Tucker suspended for 10 games.
HurlyBurly51 replied to Gregg's topic in The Stadium Wall
I read that he massaged the final terms of his suspension. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/justin-tuckers-10-game-suspension-was-the-result-of-negotiations-not-a-legal-ruling -
This first part is in response to some posters here, not the PFF ranking: Coaches with the Most Wins in NFL History (and their main QBs): 1. Don Shula - QBs: Johnny Unitas (HOF), Bob Griese (HOF), Dan Marino (HOF) 2. George Halas - QBs: George Blanda (HOF), Sid Luckman (HOF), Bobby Layne (HOF) 3. Bill Belichick - QB: Tom Brady (f-HOF) 4. Andy Reid - QBs: Patrick Mahomes (f-HOF), Donovan McNabb 5. Tom Landry - QBs: Don Meredith, Roger Staubach (HOF), Danny White 6. Curly Lambeau - QBs: Curly Lambeau (HOF) and Arnie Herber (two guys who pioneered the passing game in the NFL) 7. Paul Brown - QBs: Otto Graham (HOF), Ken Anderson 8. Marty Schottenheimer - QBs: Bernie Kosar, Joe Montana (HOF), Steve DeBerg, Drew Brees (f-HOF), Phillip Rivers 9. Chuck Knol - QB: Terry Bradshaw (HOF) 10. Dan Reeves - QBs: John Elway (HOF), Phil Simms, Chris Chandler, Michael Vick 11. Chuck Knox - QBs: Ron Jaworski, Dave Krieg, Joe Ferguson, James Harris 12. Mike Tomlin - QBs: Ben Rothlisberger (f-HOF) 13. Mike McCarthy - QBs: Aaron Rodgers (f-HOF), Dak Prescott 14. Jeff Fisher - QBs: Chris Chandler, Steve McNair, Nick Foles, Jared Goff, 15. Bill Parcells - QBs: Phil Simms, Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testeverde, Tony Romo 16. Sean Payton - QBs: Drew Brees (f-HOF) Why is it that most coaches are considered great when they win a lot (despite having elite QB play), but McDermott is only good because of elite QB play? The only other coach you ever really here referenced in such a way is Bill Belichick (questioning how good a coach he is/would be without Brady). But every other coach who wins is just considered great. Don Shula is the winningest coach ever. After that statement is uttered, I never hear, yeah well he had three Hall of Fame Quarterbacks. He probably would have sucked without them. Most "great" coaches had excellent to elite QB play for the majority of their careers (it appears to be a very symbiotic relationship). I'm not saying that every QB on the list above is as good as Josh (and not all of those coaches are considered great), but there are 17 HOFers. I wonder if that helped most of those coaches be great? And even when Sean Payton gets brought up, I never hear people say, yeah, well he only made 1 Super Bowl despite having a HOF QB for 15 years...what a waste. And currently (yes, with fewer seasons/games) Sean McDermott's winning percentage is better than all but four of those sixteen coaches (Shula, Halas, Landry, and Brown---and those 4 coaches had 8 HOF QBs playing for them). This McD is only good because of Josh sentiment, needs to be retired. Would he be AS good without Josh, of course not, but he also wouldn't suck...he's a very good coach. Two other notions that need to go away are McD lucked into Josh and McD had no part in Josh's development: First, they did not luck into Josh. Brandon, Sean, and the entire organization did exhaustive research on all of the QBs that year. They decided that they wanted Josh. They made two separate trades sending picks and players away to move up to #7 to get Josh. They tried to move up to as high as #2 to get him. There were a lot of QB hungry teams that passed on Josh or didn't try to go up and get him. It wasn't just the media and fans that weren't sold on Josh and thought he might be a bust in the waiting, a lot of teams did too. But the Bills identified Josh and did everything in their power to get him. Sure there is some luck involved (other teams ahead of us not picking him), but the Bills busted their butts to get him, he didn't fall into our laps. And secondly, did McD work on Josh's mechanics, footwork, throwing motion, etc. Yeah, probably not. But he and Beane did put a plan of development together for Josh, they gave Josh the tools, they hired the right people to work with him, they empowered him, they tried to design the team around him, etc., etc. And if you don't think that a good culture, a stable organization, and a good relationship between HC and QB doesn't weigh in to a QBs development as well, well, you haven't been watching the NFL very closely over the last 10-50 years. Could Josh have been successful elsewhere? Of course. But are their some organizations where maybe he wouldn't have reached his full potential, yeah, that is probably true also. Ok, one last gripe: Others already dispelled the playoff points in the last five losses, or whatever. that was brought up earlier in the thread as a knock against McD. But, even if that stat had been correct, how many of those other teams had to face Kansas City (or a similar dynasty team) 4 out of 5 years? Kind of makes a difference---rather than say losing to a 10-7/9-8 #4 or #5-seed in the Wild Card round. As to the PFF rankings, if they are discussing where do the current coaches stack up All-Time/career, then sure Super Bowls and longevity should weigh in to the rankings (which pushes McD down a bit---fine). But, if they are talking who are the best coaches right now heading into 2025, then McD should be much higher on the list---definitely Top 10, probably somewhere in the 4-7 range, imo.
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Former Ravens kicker Justin Tucker suspended for 10 games.
EasternOHBillsFan replied to Gregg's topic in The Stadium Wall
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up and down...
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Pegula Divests from Knight Hawks after pulling out of Rochester Lease
Mr. WEO replied to Mango's topic in The Stadium Wall
now that you mention it, it's been only "a minute" since the Sabres were in the playoffs! but yeah, it took Pegula 3 long years to wake up and dump Whaley and Russ. the time did not pass quickly. Also, Buffalo Bill did not ****** those victims in the pit: he made clothing out of them...so analogy was on point. -
Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.
Simon replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
Anybody else read the title and immediately think that Dawkins would look like Belushi sneaking into the Dean's building? -
Former Ravens kicker Justin Tucker suspended for 10 games.
Malazan replied to Gregg's topic in The Stadium Wall
Deshaun Watson (2022 Suspension) - Watson faced multiple civil lawsuits, but no criminal charges were filed. The NFL’s decision was based on its investigation, which preceded the resolution of most civil cases. Alvin Kamara (2023 Suspension) - Kamara’s legal case was ongoing at the time of the suspension. The NFL’s suspension was announced in August 2023, based on its investigation rather than waiting for full legal resolution. Chris Lammons (2023 Suspension) - Lammons faced legal proceedings that were not fully resolved at the time of the NFL’s suspension. The league acted based on its own findings. Zay Jones (2024 Suspension) - ones was arrested in November 2023 for misdemeanor domestic battery in Florida. The charges were dropped in March 2024, but the NFL’s investigation determined that a suspension was warranted based on its findings. The suspension was announced before any further legal actions, such as civil suits, were resolved. J.C. Jackson (2024 Suspension) - Jackson had an arrest warrant issued in Massachusetts in September 2023 for failing to appear at a court hearing related to 2021 reckless driving and speeding charges. The NFL’s suspension was based on its investigation into his overall conduct, including the 2023 warrant, and was imposed before the legal case was resolved. Von Miller (2024 Suspension) - Miller was arrested in November 2023 for an alleged assault on his pregnant girlfriend, but no formal charges were filed by the Dallas County District Attorney’s Office. The NFL’s investigation concluded that Miller violated the policy, leading to the suspension before any further legal proceedings. -
This report says a piece of meteorite went into someone's house (valuable) Thought I better check in on you ; ) https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/fireball-in-the-sky-seen-across-metro-atlanta/ar-AA1Hu3gU?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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How many wins do the Bills get without Josh?
Mango replied to Another Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think the O/U is probably at about 8.5. My big question is are we talking IR'd Josh or do we get to spend his cap number to help the team? If I get to spend the money I'll take the over. If I don't, I am not sure. -
Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?
Alphadawg7 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Baker still has no business on this list, hes easily top 10 and I have him 7th overall right now. -
Brandon Beane must of called in to complain about how they grade the DL's and had them change the way they grade
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UPDATE: ISRAEL v IRAN - Ceasefire reached?
muppy replied to Big Blitz's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
may I say all the drama concerning CNN and their coverage as criminal, traiterous etc etc etc all the false conjecture and false reporting. IT SUCKS. I don't know if it was intentional or not. sounds like a SNAFU to me but I could be wrong I would dislike it as much if they reported a Major Hit when it was off target. TRUTH MATTERS Integrity and honestly and being honest Matter and it is precisely those attributes that IMO El presidente Donaled El Naranja Trump lacks. LACKS It comes down to credibility. He lies so much how do you know what to believe and what is trolling or what is he spinning, Make no mistake ALWAYS IN HIS FAVOR and people wonder why some are skeptical. After having said all that let me put a point on this: Well done US military. Donald trump you wiped out a nuclear threat KUDOS have a blessed day.. m -
I'd have said the secondary was the "especially" bad bit. There was Benford and 3 liabilities out there. But I agree. The defense last year was just bad. Some of that was on Beane. Some of it was on Babich. But McDermott isn't scott free either.
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Umm, it didn’t hit me? 🤷♂️ I have no idea about that, I avoid the local news mostly. Nothing good there.
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Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.
14774 replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
Those two boys couldn't "sneak" into a Visually Impaired convention. Monsters. -
Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.
JJGauna replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
Amazing stadium. Hopefully Dion makes it to a pregame football show after retirement, I’d watch it. -
Brandon Beane "might be the most sensitive GM in the entire NFL"?
GunnerBill replied to BADOLBILZ's topic in The Stadium Wall
No and I don't think he was "running the Bills draft from Charlotte" but do I think he was tight with McDermott and had an inclin what was coming? Yes. Twice in round 2 the Bills jumped above the Panthers in trade ups and took the exact same position as the Panthers took after (4 picks after once and the right next pick the other time). Do I think Beane was saying "take Zay and Dion"... no. Do I think it is reasonable to assume McD had some inside info as to the positions the Panthers were interested in? Yes. -
Hey man, what's up with the meteor near Atlanta?
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PFF top 10 defensive lines
Not at the table Karlos replied to Kirby Jackson's topic in The Stadium Wall
Been their MO for a while now. Remember when Duck Hodges was better than Allen. -
Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.
mushypeaches replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
Pfffftttt - it's pretty lame to call it "sneaking in" if you don't get hepped up on goofballs, cover yourself in feces, and scale a 20 ft fence -
Dawkins and Torrence "snuck" into the new stadium.
Augie replied to Draconator's topic in The Stadium Wall
That’s awesome! I hope Dion can find a way to come out of his shell a little bit, not be so reserved. 🤣 I also noted, he is a VERY LARGE MAN when you put him next to regular human beings.