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I don't believe that stating that it's tough to trust him or that he could fall on his face is bad-mouthing him. The guy has a 30-45-1 record, and perhaps like Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, and Baker Mayfield, who also took some years to develop into a good starting QB. We will see.

Panthers are not known for not stopping the run though.. I think their run d was a bit overvalued based on schedule but they were solid/above average Jags ran on them week 1 but that was pretty much it. I don’t think anyone would’ve predicted this result. Bills probably could’ve cracked 325 yards rushing if they didn’t shut things down in the 3rd quarter I heard a lot of ‘the bills won’t be able to run and dowdle will run all over them making the game close’ from the haters which are things they got pretty wrong. There’s definitely this phenomenon where teams get labeled as ‘bad’ based on past years and it is automatically assumed these teams are not only bad overall but bad at every facet of football every year just based on name alone 😂

Lol

The Panthers allowed an average of 44 yards per game rushing over the last 3 games before ours, not sure where he was getting his numbers from

I can't flip it but here @Simon cook is ripping the salts before his long touchdown or on I stopped and took a screenshot

Yea like I get that overall point but the panthers did a ton of things right on this specific play. Once Josh rolls left the safety can play middle of the field knowing Josh is under heavy pressure and has no time to throw it back to the right so you’ve essentially got 5 defenders on 3 receivers and the back of the end zone as an extra deep defender while Josh is running for his life I think Josh thought he’d have a shot at Kincaid but Mike Jackson got to break on kincaid’s route because there was no way Josh was getting that ball to Moore under that much pressure moving to his left

And rashee rice

I don’t know where Moore’s head was at on his route, but there was a very quick window there to hit him with a pass. That said, can’t expect Allen to find that minuscule moment on plays like this. The defense won this one with a good call and sticky coverage, Allen was better off throwing it away. It’s not always this bleak though.

The Bye was a reset of going back to basics in many ways. And unsurprisingly, the basics worked pretty freaking well just like they almost always do with this team when they execute them properly.

Here comes Xavier Worthy

don't forget the change of who was making the defensive calls.

Got to sit down and watch the game tonight-- on this play Allen is no longer looking downfield after like 1.5s and the defense is in zone w/ a man on Coleman. The DL has both pressure and contain on Allen so the secondary doesn't have to worry about the possibility of Allen running, and Allen isn't able to get anywhere close to a viable throwing position so none of the receivers are able to slip into the open. No clue what you would expect receivers to do on this one, the play is already broken by the time they would be coming out of their breaks etc. and everyone is moving accordingly.

I understand that they may have. tougher teams ahead on the schedule...and they are likely to lose a few of them...but why bad mouth a QB who has been playing very well...It is not a fluke that he is playing well...the guy has put in the effort and has a competent offense to play in unlike in NY.

More importantly, they had a fierce pass rush

Cook is the best player on offense.

I heard everyone was an Andy Dalton fan.

Next man up. O’Cyrus Torrence can anchor, no?

Isn’t this take completely false? The panthers were a top 5-10 run D from the talk all week

You lost me at "Panters"....

Because it did not work 3 straight times against the Chiefs in the AFCC

Being reported Kelly was fired for insubordination. Not confirmed. Apparently LSU AD Woodward wanted Kelly to fire Sloan, the OC. Kelly refused, and wanted to fire some position coaches on the offensive side instead. Woodward said no.

agreed we've been automatic with it minus the Chiefs game

thought this was one of those "it's time to have an uncomfortable conversation...."

I think they always end up with a terrible qb sometimes through no fault of their own so it always seems like Tomlin is getting the most out of his talent but im not sure that he is tbh this year the defense has been bad on top of the offense who added Rodgers,DK, and Jonnu smith not being very good either. It made sense for Tomlin to get the benefit of the doubt up to this year but I’m not really sure where they go from here if they don’t crack that 9 or 10 win threshold/first round playoff exit