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Agree with @YoloinOhio Not a great start, but the kid has time. But the coronation was premature, obviously.

It’s not really new. They started on this a few years ago. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38058656/star-nfl-rbs-meet-zoom-talk-state-position

Josh Patrick Allen

Thats awesome... for me I am staying grounded... one game at a time..

The media is doing what? They are barely reporting on his obvious and impending demise

I hope he has diarrhea

Good stuff. I made this argument repeatedly during the Cook saga threads. Cook had 207 carries and 32 receptions. He had the ball 239 times. He accounted for 1267 yards and 18 TDs. Shakir, who just got $15M/yr, and just had his best year yet, had 78 total touches, 825 yds, and 4 TDs.

On what date did the Bills trade for Diggs? March 20 What date was the draft? April 23 So you, as an everyday average Pats fan, knew: One month ahead of time that the first 22 picks of the NFL draft would leave Justin Jefferson available at pick 23 and The Eagles we’re locked in on one guy and That with the possible exception of CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson would outperform the rest of the WEO proclaimed loaded WR crop which included a now incarcerated top WR pick and several other guys that are either bad, meh or took years to develop. Your giant “I told you all so” moment would have a multi year gestation process because of Diggs undeniable immediate impact as a Bill and only fully develop in 2024 or arguably 2023. This proves your point that everything was obvious and Beane is a moron. You’ve almost convinced me but not quite. Luckily there is a way we have a way to test this theory of the obvious: The Cowboys just traded Micah Parsons to GB for two firsts and a DT. Please predict with your Jefferson level accuracy: How Parsons and the DT will perform Who GB will select with each of those two picks, including any trades that may impact these pick slots and How the selected players will perform both immediately after their selection and 5 years into their careers. It’s all pretty obvious, right? Just let us all know what will happen. Thanks.

Anybody see that former OL from Packers saying he thinks he might have a shoulder injury not being disclosed? I truly don't know if thats true, it makes a ton of sense. He could've just been rattled by the most hostile stadium in sports... but damn he missed and one hopped a ton of easy throws... but also dropped a pretty dime later on in 2nd half. Made me think of that UCL injury (aka Tommy john). Ohtani took a year off, yet was able to knock 40 bombs. Its a weird injury. When Josh hurt his ucl I remember hearing something about the shorter passes being tougher, but the deeper passes put a different strain on the arm and actually felt more comfortable to throw. Am I imagining that, i swear to god I heard him or someone else talking about it after the season. Would seem to make a ton of sense to me. The kids annointed as chosen one and now cant hit a 15yard out route? Characteristics of that injury atleast visually made sense to me 🤷

That's the nature of the position. There's nothing unethical about it. Durability is really important for a running back. If you can't do it, there is a line of young guys waiting to take your job.

Josh Allen wishes he was JP Losman

How do I tag a mod to ask this to get moved to OTW?

I've never used one at a tailgate, but I've used a cheap basic rabbit ear style one at home that is able to pick up the locals. Might have to play around with position to get the best signal.

In Strong and Ingram, we trust. Go Bills !!!

Ok. Understand your position. But realize people will use similar logic to always put Mahomes above Josh regarding playoffs and clutchness. 0-4 vs chiefs is historic. While I think it is not correct and I know you do too regarding josh he has had the ball at the end of the last two playoff games needing to score and has gotten 0. That is what gets remembered. Josh can process better….i think I agree but Lamar has come a long way and when you look at numbers he is outstanding in terms of td% int%, both above josh. I like Josh better but it is not crazy for people to pick Lamar for something like a top 100. Also not crazy to pick Josh over Lamar. Lamar has been bad in the playoffs with turnovers and does not get dinged for it. While Josh had turnover issues in the regular season and is historically good in the playoffs yet people still use that narrative.

I was just watching something on Shaun Alexander and how his body broke down basically right after signing a big contract extension. I also think Ricky Williams falls into this category as well. Both of their teams gave them on way way way too many carries...so much so that Williams decided he needed to take some time off to rest his body in order to essentially survive, and then the amount of vilification he received from that...it was wild and the attacks were extremely personal on him and yeah, it wasn't cool. What I'm saying is that teams often use their running backs in unethical ways that contribute to their bodies breaking down and then turning around and saying see, the position is not worth paying...except they're largely causing that to happen

Most teams have posted their week one uniforms. Bills haven't but since the Ravens posted white jerseys then it's probably blue over white. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=d0019ee5dbf5ebf3dd33f434d89e07d53d2542dac8cb37861d76b911eb871f61JmltdHM9MTc1Njc3MTIwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=39432f18-80d3-69d2-2993-3dda815f6841&psq=uniform+gridiron+database&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ3JpZGlyb24tdW5pZm9ybXMuY29tL0dVRC9jb250cm9sbGVyL2NvbnRyb2xsZXIucGhwP2FjdGlvbj1tYWlu

They had me up until that point.

THe Bills have already announced that they will have two captains - Allen and Bernard. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-announce-2025-team-captains-josh-allen-terrel-bernard

This should be studied!! Workhorse backs used to average 25-30, 35 carries per game and play till they were old. Emmitt, Jamal Lewis, Eddie george etc etc They were seeing double the carries and double the effective years in the nfl. WTF happened to them? I don't buy any 'kids are getting softer' bs. Its strange!!!

one sitting on my desk at this very moment.

I agree that it certainly isn't fair, given the responsibilities that are placed at the feet of RBs versus WRs in the NFL. However, I understand why the disparity exists: 1. More and more these days we see RBs who are specialized in their roles, leading to the now notorious Running Back By Committee approach. There just aren't many bell cow, 3-down RBs in the modern NFL. 2. Due to the wear and tear that RBs take (as opposed to WRs), their career-life expectancy is typically shorter. That also means greater risk for teams who are negotiating with a RB on his 2nd contract and beyond. 3. Much of this, unfortunately, is also related to pure genetics. WRs tend to be some of the finest athletes on the field in terms of size-to-speed ratio. There simply are not many guys that fit such a prototype walking around on this planet. Meanwhile, even in the modern era, quality RBs come in all shapes and sizes.

Park at the mall, 10 bucks per person to ride the bus to the stadium, usually a police escort on the way in. It's the way to go.