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the last remark was funny.

The question I was focusing on was which member of the class would get to a SB first, not win one. The NFC didn’t have anything to do with that where the class of ‘83 was concerned. But that class would have had to deal with Montana (who destroyed both Marino and Elway in the SB) if they had been drafted to NFC teams.

Explain how the Bengal's roster is better than the Bill's roster.

Embarking on their longest road trip in 15 years isn't going to help their record in the near term.

If you keep saying that, it's going to happen. Shush. You'd think that being natural turf, the new Highmark passes the new standard already. I mean.. it's grass for goodness sakes. I thought that was the Gold Standard. What are they going to say "Bluegrass is unacceptable, it must be fescue"?

I will say the same -- if -- the Bills beat the Bengals. If the Bills lose to the Bengals, it's because they are not playoff material. Specifically, it is not a playoff roster.

Is it possible the new field meets standards?

Has to be the longest post in Twobillsdrive history!!

Beane is using my old method for picking up women. Just walk up to every woman in a bar and ask if you can buy her a drink. 99% tell you not if you were the last man on earth but eventually you’ll find one desperate enough to say yes. (2 years later we were married)

A few things bother me in this matchup: -Bengals have the rest advantage, more desperation, are 12-5 in the last 17 games when Burrow/Higgins/Chase are on the field, and the Bosa injury is huge because Burow is great against the blitz which the Bills will have to use in order to create any kind of pressure. Burrow started out slow last Thanksgiving but looked like his old self in the 2nd half. However, I think the Bills run all over this defense and if they sell out to stop it Allen can make it look like the Bucs game. I think it's close but I've got the Bills at 28-24.

Not really.

If Savage sees the field this year, can we finally put to rest all the breathless commentary about how complex Sean's defense is?

He won't get sacks but he's great at setting the edge and helping with the worst run defense this team has had in years.

He bumped 30 threads in 1 hour this evening Easier than ever to track him - bc absolutely no one responds to his posts. Good work to all who ignore and block the troll who’s totally here for “discussion.”

Homeloser analytics - get this story to page 2 by bumping 18 threads in 25 minutes

My buddy is a die hard Packers fan and said Savage was good for them up to 2023 before he left. So no, I don't think this is like Elam at all. If you listened to McDermott's Friday presser that's obvious. He clearly really wanted Ingram back on the team.

He has nickel experience and the speed for it. Jordan Hancock is also a great athlete and if needed in a playoff game he has the ability to play outside cb and nickel. He did both at Ohio St.

This is very well put. Not to mention he could obviously change his mind in a couple weeks and the depth could obviously help. There's only upside in keeping him. Plus it has nothing to do with spite. The bills are under no obligation to help another team. That's silly

There absolutely is a reason to keep him on the list besides spite... When you claim a player on waivers, you take on the contract of the team that waived him (in this case, the Steelers). Had Slay not been claimed, he would then become a Free Agent and that contract would remain on the Steelers books. But since we claimed him, The Steelers are now free and clear of contractual obligations. It works the same way for us. If we waive him and he goes unclaimed, we are stuck paying him the remainder of that contract for the rest of the year. Considering the Bills and the Eagles were the only teams to put in a claim originally before all this mess - there's no way any team claims him if we waive him. Every other team in the league knows he won't report to any team but the Eagles. And bc of that, the Eagles know that they don't need to put in a claim. They can just sign him and pay week to week vet minimum. If we cut him, we would be stuck still paying for him for the rest of the season. Literally the only way to prevent that is to put him on that list and keep him there, unless he reports. Also, by putting him on that list and keeping him there, we also could recoup a 5 game prorated amount from his 8.9m signing bonus. So not only could we not have to pay the contract we're currently on the hook for, we could stand to make money out of him being there that we could use for others. Long story short, this is the only move. It's not just spite. We'd actually be pretty stupid to waive him.

I defended him multiple times. I've compared him to Sean Jones and Charles Mann from the late 80s and early 90s. With Bosa out it's time for him to take this game over. I'm talking 2-3 sacks, multiple pressures, and causing constant havoc. He has the ability and has flashed the ability. He's 25 now and it's time to be a big time pass rusher. He played at an extremely high level vs KC so I expect the same here, and a little more. On a side note, we traded up for TJ Sanders and he's fully healthy. He flashed a lot in camp reportedly and looked to be turning a corner vs Pittsburgh. The ascension of these two is massive for this game and going forward is extremely important.

Same is true of that guy we sent to Dallas for a 6th.

Can't make a diamond without a lot of pressure I think this team is ready for the playoff push

Love to see the hope here. Of course, I don't actually share it this week, against an opponent who just proves to be a bad matchup. Cinci runs it better lately than they get credit for, and we know of course how they throw it with Burrow back in the fold. Two-dimensional offenses like theirs have the ability to exploit McD's defense (and NFL defenses in general). Without a talented pass rush, it's really difficult to stop such teams.