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4 games of 30 points is nothing to sneeze at. We’ve gotten so used to winning big, we fail to recognize that most of the leagues offenses suck

This is true, we will see how it goes.

THIS! This current Buffalo offense has been a run-first offense with Joe Brady calling more run plays than pass plays. Brian Daboll is no longer the OC, and we all saw what Stephon Diggs looked like after Brady took over from Dorsey. I, for one, am not convinced that this Buffalo OC would even make good use of this WR. Clearly, Keon Coleman (35) is Josh Allen's favorite target, and right behind him is Shakir (34), with Kincade in third at 24 targets and Palmer at 20 targets. In Jacksonville, Brian Thomas Jr leads that team in targets with 55, 27 receptions for 365 yards, 1 TD. With a catch percentage of 49.1. In this recent Jags game, BTJ was injured while grabbing his shoulder. Same shoulder he injured in college. Injury or mental case? "Among all players with at least 50 targets this season, Thomas' 41.8 percent success rate and 49.1 percent catch rate are the second-worst marks in the NFL. Jerry Jeudy is the only player behind him at 32.7 percent in success rate and a 42.3 percent catch rate (22 receptions on 52 targets). One of the big problems for Thomas has been catching the ball. He has been credited with an NFL-high nine drops on 55 targets this season." Thomas' struggles are partly on him, as he has struggled to make routine catches. Anyway, the Jags are looking to bolster their secondary as they are #26 in passing attempts, 27th in passing yards, 28th in passing TDs, and were just beaten by the Rams 35-7 with Matt Stafford throwing 5 TDs and the Jags QB Lawrence sacked 7x. Jacksonville is 4-3 at the bye.

And Palmer. They just haven’t given him the opportunities. He can make plays in the deep intermediate

First time participating in this.... 27-17 Bills.

Bills - 37 Panthers - 33 Chuba/Dowdle go over 200+ and everything seems terrible but the better team squeaks it

Is Fat Harry's still the best place in New Orleans to catch a game? Didn't feel worthy of a new a thread so I'll just dump it here

LSU fans were chanting "fire Kelly" at the end of the game. Notre Dame fans must be laughing like crazy over this.

Shirley, you can understand the sentiment and frustration, yes?

Agree to disagree

I just want to come on here and say the lack of confidence some of you have in this team is truly embarrassing. We have the second highest winning % in the NFL since 2018 and many of you are ready to bury these players and coaching staff. We are 4-2 not 1-5. I had to sit here and read some brilliant mind post how Allen looks older and disinterested this season. What an epic embarrassment some of you are.

Let's see. Last road game I guess was... Maybe Houston playoff game? Wins: Titans '19, Falcons '16, Losses: Jaguars '17, Texans '18, Panthers '16, Ravens '15. Tomorrow we better win. Debating on taking lynx vs parking nearer by

Think the WR/offense take is a bit hyperbolic, in that one personnel upgrade there probably doesn't suddenly catapult the Bills into dynamic deep and intermediate passing success. But that doesn't mean I'm against spending to add there. Have to at least keep trying. I'm hopeful as well that Hairston can gradually upgrade the Bills secondary, but one has to imagine, especially with the Bills difficulty in maintaining edge contain against the run, that teams will run and throw screens right at Hairston. Wonder what that looks like. Tre has at least been tenacious a number of times playing downhill against such plays.

I feel like you conflated my post with several others as I mentioned nothing of a first round pick, etc. Times have also changed. You don't like it, and I don't really like it, but it don't stop them from changing. It's not entirely uncommon now for very skilled players to go into shell-mode because of their surroundings. Trevor Lawrence absolutely sucks. He was heralded as a Josh alternative years ago which was insanity - he's maybe bottom 5 in the league. He is simply not progressing. He is worse than he was and he was never good. So yes, I understand the current concept of skill players, that are young, healthy, and had all of the attributes coming out of college, not wanting to go all out for a poor situation. It's a relatively new phenomenon but it's not unique. Maybe he just doesn't want to play in London 2+ times a year, etc. The Jags are a bit of a dumpster fire. Dumpster fires create unhappy players that excel elsewhere. This isn't new.

The NFL is a privilege not a right if that's your mindset you're already not going to be a long time successful receiver Sammy Watkins was always thinking about himself and he was one of the most talented players and didn't do nothing Josh Gordon went for 1700 yards with ghosts at quarterback with the Cleveland browns... Brian Thomas Jr is leading the NFL in drops and all of his metrics have significantly dropped I would trade for him but nobody in the NFL is going to trade a first round pick right now that's my only point I'm making It's not even going to take a first if they were going to trade him

Trevor Lawrence sucks and has sucked. That's the primary issue with BTJ. Some have been calling this for years. OI' late 80s Beauty and the Beast show looking ass. So yes, this is a priority. Agree with the posters who said you do whatever's possible. I also don't really understand the mid-thread MHJ detour, but yes, considering the state of this offense right now, you'd also go after him if possible, but BTJ is preferable. Very fair but the likeliest scenario is that he has a terrible bonehead QB and is simply thinking of self-preservation. Josh could be all he needs.

Chad Hall? Why would Chad Hall provide intel to the Bills? Didn't he leave on a lateral move? Also, not sure Gabe Davis is someone with a post-playing career future in NFL front offices. Good locker room guy though, so his opinion is probably gonna be positive for just about any former teammate. Been said already, but while this is an intriguing series of correlations, it immediately makes me think of our own failure to maximize WRs over this same span. **ALSO: lot of posters taking this report to mean that Jags are actively looking to move on from BJT. I guess if they DO move on, then we know they were open to it. But it could be more about teams inquiring right now and the Jags not telling them to eff off right away.

Stefanski from the Browns.

Well, that sucked. On to California...

IF they trade for an upgrade at WR, I don’t necessarily see a weakness on Offense. The only way teams have been able to slow us down would be neutralized. It’s an easy fix (relatively speaking) if they can find a trade partner. We have one major weakness to exploit on Offense and that would theoretically take it away. On Defense, this group could look ALOT different come Playoffs. Hoecht and Hairston are big additions once they get their footing. Safety is probably a bandaid position where we hope for solid play if they don’t swing a trade. If Hairston is good, the entire Defense changes. Scheme, talent ceiling.. everything. Honestly, even if he’s serviceable, we probably see a major uptick.

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I am here with the fam and looking to break an 0-4 road game streak.

Making stops is. Relying on turnovers is not sustainable. Just go play actual defense. It’s but a difficult concept. Almost every other team can handle it

Doesn't affect his catching.. he has the most drops in the NFL.. he has a very low yards per route ran His catch rate is significantly lower.. his efficiency numbers have plummeted to the bottom of the NFL Josh Gordon went for 1700 yards with ghosts at quarterback in Cleveland... BTJ is Super talented.. I'm not giving up a first round pick for those last 4 things I just said Now if he picked his game up from last year and they were trying to trade him.. yeah he'd be worth the first and probably more Significantly regressing I would give up picks , not a number one and I doubt anybody in the NFL is going to

I wasn’t aware of this. Guy needs to dropped.