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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

While I don't exactly agree with the timing of the Walker release among other things, I am all for the sentiment of a new, young, smart, and hopefully talented, offensive line jelling together. I'm also in an unusually good mood today so, AMEN!

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IMHO .....

 

The problem isn't with the last few moves made ...... it's how/when the moves were made.

 

Turk gets canned because the Bills brain trust wasn't happy with his game plans/play calling during pre-season .... but they were happy enough during the end of last season during the REAL games while we were circuling the toilet bowl to keep him .... what the heck happened between December of last year and last week????

 

They cut Walker because he's a slow gob of goo ......... is he really any slower of fatter than he was last year? Is he any fatter and slower than he was last week when we cut Chambers and kept him????

 

The FO wants to "blow up" the team ......... fine with me but it should have been blown up MONTHS ago.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

How much wasted time and money did it take to get to this point? And we still have the worst offensive line in the league. Thats why many are pessimistic. The absolute best we can hope for is that, against all odds and history, Bills management got it right and have the right youngsters in place. They develop nicely over the course of the season and are a average OLine by the end of the year. A lot of ifs and maybe's there.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

Uh huh...

 

Well, considering the pass rushers that Bell and company are going to face....We will be prying something out of Trent, Fitz and hamsters cold dead fingers this season.

 

You can't tell me teams aren't licking their chops to get a shot at a nobody 7th round pick and a rookie LG that gets pushed back to the QB more often than not.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

 

Amen EndZoneCrew about damn time someone stood up and said it. I'll be with you when someone tries to pry my season tickets. I still BILLIEVE. Let's got to Foxborough on Monday and punch the Boston Patirots in the mouth. Who's with me damn it!

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Without intending any disrespect at all to EndZone, whose passion is evident, this is exactly the kind of thread that Ralphy's crew posts up in the Detroit office ... to remind him that he's bulletproof.

 

No matter what decisions are made, no matter how badly the loyal fans are treated by bizarre, ill-timed, or otherwise odd moves (or moves that aren't made, like the defeaning silence of a lame off-season that we're supposed to excuse just because we signed T.O.) .... the fans will come. Sure they'll complain a little, call a radio show, giggle at Sully's rants, but their wallets will be wide open when it comes time to renew those tickets. Ralph isn't so old that he can't hear the criticism; rather, he just knows it's all bark and no bite.

 

I can't help but believe that ridiculously dumb things can happen at One Bills Drive solely because the fan love for the team goes so deep. I suppose one could argue that we're lucky that we even have a team, but I think guys like EndZone deserve a lot better.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

Good post.

 

A strong OL will take more commitment and resources, and perhaps even some luck. We need defensive tackles too EZ. What we really need is a new philosophy. This we have needed for many years, and is the reason many of us are frustrated.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts.

-That is exactly what the Bills want you to think, keep up the hope, all the while they have thrown the season away. A good percentage of people in Buffalo and nationwide have the same opinion. The same gullible Bills fans, have hope when the organization doesn't even have any.

 

5 young guys jelling TOGETHER

-That should be 5 young guys with 3 rookies having 3 days to jell without the person who has been calling all of their line calls all preseason. Rosey outlook there for sure.

 

I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world......

-You forgot to add Jason Peters.

 

Look I agree with some of the other posters here, it isn't as much the moves as it is when and how they were done. Dumping your O-Coordinator, backup RB, Left Tackle with less than a week before you play the division rival, Super Bowl favorite Patriots makes as much sense as breasts on a nun. The Bills have obviously duped their fanbase this year, and the thousands who have bought season tickets. They signed Owens to boost saging season ticket sales and it worked. Now that they are all sold, they backdoor the fans and tank the season.

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Uh huh...

 

Well, considering the pass rushers that Bell and company are going to face....We will be prying something out of Trent, Fitz and hamsters cold dead fingers this season.

 

You can't tell me teams aren't licking their chops to get a shot at a nobody 7th round pick and a rookie LG that gets pushed back to the QB more often than not.

 

Oh, you mean all of the vaunted pass rushers left on the Patriots? Like Adalius Thomas whose 5 sacks last season were the MOST of any guy remaining on their team since the Seymour trade? Or Seymour's replacement, Jarvis Green, who mustered the same amount of sacks as Chris Kelsay last season (2)? Or any other player on the defensive line that didn't have more than 2 sacks. Yeah, we're really going to have our hands full with those pass rushers :devil: . The Patriots defensive front is going to be considerably average this season, IMO. This isn't exactly the worst group of pass rushers for this line to get their first test against by any stretch of the imagination.

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You are Russ Brandon's wet dream.

 

I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

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Uh huh...

 

Well, considering the pass rushers that Bell and company are going to face....We will be prying something out of Trent, Fitz and hamsters cold dead fingers this season.

 

You can't tell me teams aren't licking their chops to get a shot at a nobody 7th round pick and a rookie LG that gets pushed back to the QB more often than not.

The round they were picked should not matter. Do you remember what round House Ballard was picked?

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IMHO .....

 

The problem isn't with the last few moves made ...... it's how/when the moves were made.

 

Turk gets canned because the Bills brain trust wasn't happy with his game plans/play calling during pre-season .... but they were happy enough during the end of last season during the REAL games while we were circuling the toilet bowl to keep him .... what the heck happened between December of last year and last week????

 

They cut Walker because he's a slow gob of goo ......... is he really any slower of fatter than he was last year? Is he any fatter and slower than he was last week when we cut Chambers and kept him????

 

The FO wants to "blow up" the team ......... fine with me but it should have been blown up MONTHS ago.

 

Actually i think i can understand the moves. Jauron was kept for continuity - how could he then justify firing someone. Also even thought the coordinator is the same and the tackle was on the team it was an entirely new system going from traditional to no huddle. Perhaps they were given a fair shot and obviously (to all who watched) could not succeed. So the Bills showed some loyalty and gave opportunities to two people who had earned that. Arent you glad these moves happened before the games counted instead of wanting it to happen after they failed. I understand the pessimism as i have been a fan a long time and drive 2.5 hours every sunday for my season tickets - But dont rain on my parade yet! haha

 

-also endzone i see your in 122 as well where at? Im row 32 almost directly behind first down man.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

 

Your cold dead hand.....

 

Carson Palmer called it. Someone is going to die playing this game. I take it you are playing QB this year for the Bills behind this line...

 

Sorry I couldnt resist.

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hell yeah. A practice or two and all of these rookies will be one of the best offensive lines in history. TE will have so much time to throw that we can maximize TO and Evans. Belichick will probably buy all of the crazy hype that the offensive line is weak and design his game plan around it. Good idea to hold back all preseason and then cut your most senior guy just before your first game, although he might have waited til just before kickoff. That Jauron is one brilliant trickster! I'm starting to feel sorry for the Patriots. :rolleyes:

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Amen EndZoneCrew about damn time someone stood up and said it. I'll be with you when someone tries to pry my season tickets. I still BILLIEVE. Let's got to Foxborough on Monday and punch the Boston Patirots in the mouth. Who's with me damn it!

 

 

Put your money where your mouth is! Oh, I guess you did by buying tickets. How did you like paying full price for those pre-season games?

 

It's kinda like paying to see U2 and you get to see Pee Wee Herman's garage band.

 

Ralph Wilson thanks you.

 

Bernie Madoff got caught fleecing the public illegally, but Ralph Wilson has found a legal way of separating fools from their money.

 

Thank goodness for the Raiders, because otherwise the Bills would be the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL.

 

 

 

BTW,I'll take New England's chances over Buffalo's this year.

 

I have always been a Bills fan, but I am not delusional enough to think that the Bills are going to beat New England this year.

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

I would love to jump on the ship with you, however as long as our HOF(lol) owner and our Moronic Coach are standing side by side together leading the troops down the path to nowhere it aint gonna happen..This franchise is a joke...I wish to hell and want to believe otherwise but deep down and after so many years of hearing the same bs I know better..This team is in the middle of an epic meltdown even before the season starts..The only thing left to see what remains of this season is if we draft in the top ten or somehow they find a way to go 7-9 and Dickie boy keeps his job again..

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

 

add me to that last quote brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts.

-That is exactly what the Bills want you to think, keep up the hope, all the while they have thrown the season away. A good percentage of people in Buffalo and nationwide have the same opinion. The same gullible Bills fans, have hope when the organization doesn't even have any.

 

5 young guys jelling TOGETHER

-That should be 5 young guys with 3 rookies having 3 days to jell without the person who has been calling all of their line calls all preseason. Rosey outlook there for sure.

 

I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world......

-You forgot to add Jason Peters.

 

Look I agree with some of the other posters here, it isn't as much the moves as it is when and how they were done. Dumping your O-Coordinator, backup RB, Left Tackle with less than a week before you play the division rival, Super Bowl favorite Patriots makes as much sense as breasts on a nun. The Bills have obviously duped their fanbase this year, and the thousands who have bought season tickets. They signed Owens to boost saging season ticket sales and it worked. Now that they are all sold, they backdoor the fans and tank the season.

 

dont make much sense. the line calls come from our o/line coach i believe!

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dont make much sense. the line calls come from our o/line coach i believe!

 

i really dont understand why everyone has their panties in a knot about turk. we are not changing the offense we are changing the guy who is going to call the plays. big freaking deal!

 

they dumped an old running back because they felt they had a better younger running back WTF is wrong w/that?

 

they cut fat so after they were sure bell was healthy. the fact of the matter is they wanted to do it after the GB game but bell got injured. whats the freaking problem there.

 

i really dont understand your logic or why you think what they did is such a big deal

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

I hope you are right buddy.I am sick and tired of the bull sh-- the last 3 years.

All this talent and we play below 500 footbal every year.I have a ticket to see them play the Texans november 1st.

I will be taking the trip by myself 6 hours.I don't want it to be a waste!!!

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I love that people are ready to pack it in BEFORE the damn season starts. Listen, we ridded ourselves of dead weight. Langston Walker being the HEAVIEST of that dead weight. Comedy aside, Turk=terrible, Walker=Fat turd with average skills, Rhodes=average for his price tag. But I am here to talk OFFENSIVE LINE.....to the so-called "experts" who are complaining about our BLOWN UP offensive line. Well, I don't know about you, but this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I am so sick of the Panos, Teague, Villarrial, Ben Anderson, Gandy, Fowler, Reyes, Walker, Dockery, Whittle's of the world...... Now THIS is a commitment to the line....5 young guys jelling TOGETHER!! You can take my season tickets

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"!!

 

So when your hand is in the same condition as your brain we can have the tickets- good to know.

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IMHO .....

 

The problem isn't with the last few moves made ...... it's how/when the moves were made.

 

Turk gets canned because the Bills brain trust wasn't happy with his game plans/play calling during pre-season .... but they were happy enough during the end of last season during the REAL games while we were circuling the toilet bowl to keep him .... what the heck happened between December of last year and last week????

 

They cut Walker because he's a slow gob of goo ......... is he really any slower of fatter than he was last year? Is he any fatter and slower than he was last week when we cut Chambers and kept him????

 

The FO wants to "blow up" the team ......... fine with me but it should have been blown up MONTHS ago.

 

 

To generalize and say that there is one best time to get rid of an OC or LT is a bit presumptuous, no? Maybe in your view the moves were ill-timed. Yet, I am of the belief it is better sooner rather than later.....(now versus week 5).

 

Or maybe, a few things came to light recently that were not evident or validated for the ENTIRE training camp (Shonert being a back stabber and Walker displaying a really poor attitude - internally).....all possibilities that warrant the timing of the moves.

 

I get the perception that the Bills are in "insert flippant and striving to be witty descriptor here" (destruction mode, on full tilt, etc), but the bottom line is that the moves made, were the right moves at the right time given all circumstances....that any of us posers cannot even fathom.

 

I am always curious that if you support a team you "drink kool aid" yet if you verbosefully (word?) always rip every move you are just being critical.

 

Bottom line, if someone does not like the moves change teams to support.....really being a Bills fan is not a right or entitlement. Also, this idea that a fan is "sick of being treated this way".......huh :rolleyes: ....moreover, I really like it when someone says they are a "loyal" or "longtime fan" - as if that means you are entitled to something....get over yourselves....The Buffalo Bills owe you (and me and everyone) ABSOLUTELY nothing. NO explanation, no guarantee, nothing, zip......I have a right to support the Bills as do you, it does not make you right and me wrong or visa versa.

 

I am all for debate on the moves but when they are anchored in mean-spritied and juvenille platitudes it is almost sad to see. The loss of perspective is much much worse than the being an internal optimist.

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