Bills looking to trade Peters

[AlbanyBill]

This is absolutley absurd. You simply don't trade franchise players, you don't trade your best players and you don't trade a star left tackle. Ridiciulous. Decent LTs are hard to come by, let alone dominant ones. There's a reason LT is the second highest paid position: it's the second most important position.

Ithink almost everyone who responded to this post does not understand what I am saying. Let me try to clarify- I'm not saying the Bills should trade Peters this offseason, even though he will undoubtedly hold out again and the team will suffer for it. I'm not saying it would be ideal for the Bills to trade Peters at all. All I'm saying is the Bills FO has shown in the past that they are willing to let great players walk rather than pay them what they demand in free agency and if that is the case, if the options are let Peters go for nothing or trade him and get a couple of day one draft picks for him, the choice is clear. Does anyone disagree with that?

 

I know we would all like to keep our great players but the fact is Mr. Wilson is a cheapskate who won't pay for real talent and I could see him letting Peters walk instead of paying top dollar to keep him. (even though he will overpay mediocre players like Schobel and Kelsay). That is all I'm trying to say.

[colin]

there is a price for everything.

 

i have been hard of peters, but i wouldnt' trade him uless it was for multiple high picks AND we had some real studs targetted AND we figured peters is not really about the team.

 

i'd trade him for 2 firsts, maybe 2 firsts and a couple of extra picks.

 

what we really need is a play maker on O, if we can keep our line at a similar level with someone besides peters and add a winslow and a passrusher and a LB, i'd do it. of course if we can add those guys while keeping peters all the better.

[davefan66]

I'm thinking that the Bills signed what's his name to add some depth at OT as they get ready to move Peters. My thinking is that the Bills and Ralph "Mr Cheap" Wilson won't be willing to pay what he will demand after his contract is up in 2 years. I'm not sure they will trade him this offseason but next year, IMO, they will definitely shop him. I'm not so sure I would be too upset. He is good but he is going to want big $ and I'm not exactly sure he's worth it. If we could get a 1st round pick I'd be happy. thoughts?

 

Every player in the NFL is tradeable, for the right price. Be it Randy Moss for a 4th, or Peyton Manning for 5 first rounders, so I would not be surprised.

 

Would I agree with trading Peters? No. But let me tell you, this team isn't going anywhere until we fill holes at DE, TE, OL, LB and with Hardy injured (and I don't see him being ready for real ball until after next year) a WR.

 

We are not going to get these filled through the draft. Don't know if trading Peters for 1 or 2 of these helps, but it also causes another hole in the OL that we would have to fill. I don't want draft picks, we need established players (see Kawika Mitchell) who can step in and be a force. It's gonna take some serious $$ to get these players, as well as sign Peters.

 

Question is, do we keep the OL intact and toss $$ at Peters?? Or do we trade and fill other holes using the same $$?

[Alphadawg7]

Ithink almost everyone who responded to this post does not understand what I am saying. Let me try to clarify- I'm not saying the Bills should trade Peters this offseason, even though he will undoubtedly hold out again and the team will suffer for it. I'm not saying it would be ideal for the Bills to trade Peters at all. All I'm saying is the Bills FO has shown in the past that they are willing to let great players walk rather than pay them what they demand in free agency and if that is the case, if the options are let Peters go for nothing or trade him and get a couple of day one draft picks for him, the choice is clear. Does anyone disagree with that?

 

I know we would all like to keep our great players but the fact is Mr. Wilson is a cheapskate who won't pay for real talent and I could see him letting Peters walk instead of paying top dollar to keep him. (even though he will overpay mediocre players like Schobel and Kelsay). That is all I'm trying to say.

 

There is a very distinct difference in retaining players and grossly over paying players to stay. We let players like Clements (thank god) walk in FA because he wanted an ABSURD amount of money and was not WORTH what he wanted. Look at the SF defense...are they really much better off after giving him what was the biggest contract in history for a defensive player?

 

That doesnt make us cheap, that makes us smart.

[lets_go_bills]

Ithink almost everyone who responded to this post does not understand what I am saying. Let me try to clarify- I'm not saying the Bills should trade Peters this offseason, even though he will undoubtedly hold out again and the team will suffer for it. I'm not saying it would be ideal for the Bills to trade Peters at all. All I'm saying is the Bills FO has shown in the past that they are willing to let great players walk rather than pay them what they demand in free agency and if that is the case, if the options are let Peters go for nothing or trade him and get a couple of day one draft picks for him, the choice is clear. Does anyone disagree with that?

 

I know we would all like to keep our great players but the fact is Mr. Wilson is a cheapskate who won't pay for real talent and I could see him letting Peters walk instead of paying top dollar to keep him. (even though he will overpay mediocre players like Schobel and Kelsay). That is all I'm trying to say.

 

I'm not saying you're absurd. The idea of trading Peters is. And since Wilson shelled out for Dockery and most recently Evans, why not Peters too. He's young and talented. Just give him his money and he'll shut the hell up, andhe will show up at OTAs and camp. Problem solved.

 

By locking Peters up you suddenly don't have to worry about the LT position for the next 8 years. And lord knows our QBs need all the protection they can get.

[StupidNation]

This is absolutley absurd. You simply don't trade franchise players, you don't trade your best players and you don't trade a star left tackle. Ridiciulous. Decent LTs are hard to come by, let alone dominant ones. There's a reason LT is the second highest paid position: it's the second most important position.

 

Tony Dorsett's trade changed the Cowboys into perennial winners. Peter's hasn't transformed us at all this year. He deserves the nod last year, and now he SHOULD be traded if we can get a 1st and some other 1st day picks. I'm all for it.

 

Pats traded Deion Branch and got a few 1sts for him. Great teams know that one dominant player isn't that important unless it's the QB position. I would love to build the trenches, but I know Peters is holding out next year and we did just fine without him for the first 2 games. I'm not that impressed with him as a game-changer, unless you are talking about changing the game by allowing fumbles and inopportune sacks.

 

I would be all for Peters getting an extension and a pay-day if he showed up. He set us back with his selfishness. Sorry, that's not a guy I want on my TEAM and if I can build the trenches with higher draft picks from the Peters trade I do it.

 

I won't miss what he brings to the team right now. He's no Orlando Pace or Walter Jones in their primes.

[ieatcrayonz]

We should move Evans, Lynch, Edwards, McGee, McKelvin and Stroud too. I mean they could get first or 2nd round picks too.

A 2nd round pick for Glove wearing Mary?

 

Is this the NFL Europe draft? I thought they closed that down.

[Mickey]

Langston Walker looked just fine over there... If you move him, then you just have to replace the easier to fill RT spot. Not saying i would trade peters at all, but if the right offer came through the phone, i'd pull the trigger. (Based on our draft performance as of late, I'd prefer proven NFL talent over draft picks)

They all looked good for 4 weeks and have all looked bad since. Walker is no solution and it just opens another hole on the line. Fire up the DVR and take a second look at virtually any play, especially screens, that required Walker to get to the outside in front of a back. Have tissues with you because you will blubber like a baby when you watch that whale consistently being 5 yards short of where he needed to be to block the guy that stopped the play.

 

We have a lot of higher priority holes to fill and I just don't think we can afford to create even more. For example, we don't have a defensive end on the roster worth a start save an aging, marginal, overpaid veteran with a serious injury.

 

I am no expert but I have heard it said that defensive end is a relatively important position to a defense. So lets replace that crew of total stiffs before we give up on a two time pro bowl OT despite the legit questions about his abilities.

[todd]

Yeah, but it's better than letting them just walk away in free agency with nothing to show for it (as the Bills have done for years). All I'm saying if Peters is going to go one way or the other, we might as well get something in return. I just can't see the Bills paying the $ he is going to demand on the free market.

 

Peters is under contract until after the 2010 season. Why would they get rid of him now?

[EasternOHBillsFan]

I'm thinking that the Bills signed what's his name to add some depth at OT as they get ready to move Peters. My thinking is that the Bills and Ralph "Mr Cheap" Wilson won't be willing to pay what he will demand after his contract is up in 2 years. I'm not sure they will trade him this offseason but next year, IMO, they will definitely shop him. I'm not so sure I would be too upset. He is good but he is going to want big $ and I'm not exactly sure he's worth it. If we could get a 1st round pick I'd be happy. thoughts?

 

I think getting rid of him is the best 'cheap' deal we could hope for in a trade... he's obviously selfish due to his inexplicable holdout, we didn't do a good job of running the ball at all with him in there, and his comments of late aren't very smart and open a window into his mentality of "as long as I get paid, I don't care about winning." For once, trading is a great option, and let someone else overpay for his services. We need to draft lineman and target them in free agency with discretion, like we did when we were successful.

[lets_go_bills]

Tony Dorsett's trade changed the Cowboys into perennial winners. Peter's hasn't transformed us at all this year. He deserves the nod last year, and now he SHOULD be traded if we can get a 1st and some other 1st day picks. I'm all for it.

 

Pats traded Deion Branch and got a few 1sts for him. Great teams know that one dominant player isn't that important unless it's the QB position. I would love to build the trenches, but I know Peters is holding out next year and we did just fine without him for the first 2 games. I'm not that impressed with him as a game-changer, unless you are talking about changing the game by allowing fumbles and inopportune sacks.

 

I would be all for Peters getting an extension and a pay-day if he showed up. He set us back with his selfishness. Sorry, that's not a guy I want on my TEAM and if I can build the trenches with higher draft picks from the Peters trade I do it.

 

I won't miss what he brings to the team right now. He's no Orlando Pace or Walter Jones in their primes.

 

What if the picks turn into busts? Is it worth it then. Comparing LTs and WRs is unfair. Branch was traded because the Pats knew they'd be fine without him. The Hawks got hoodwinked.

 

I hated his holdout as much as everyone. I booed him a lot at the home games. But I think the Bills should give him money before the OTAs. Problem solved. Once he got going in the back half of the season he was dominant again. I think he's the real deal now. He's only 26, still young and has yet to peak. Locking him up now takes care of him and you won't hear from him again and you won't have to worry about the LT spot for the next eight years.

 

The Pro Bowl nod he got bodes poor for us though. Now he has the ammo to hold out AGAIN.

[StupidNation]

Once he got going in the back half of the season he was dominant again. I think he's the real deal now. ...

 

He had 2 games where he was very good and pro-bowl material. There are games, actually most this year, where I wanted Kirk Freaking Chambers to play. His hold-out screwed up team chemistry. I'm glad they didn't pay him. He's only proven himself for 1 year, and this year was actually below average, and suffice it to say I would have preferred the play of Mike Gandy for Arizona (yes, that Gandy) than Peters this year, but certainly not last year.

 

To me he's not worth it. I would take my picks and run with them. I will take the Tony Ogohs of the world and work with them and use the picks. If you pick 3 guys in the top 3 rounds 2 of the 3 usually pan out without all the fan-fare and hold-outs. I'll take my chances at this point where he thinks he's God and he's played like Wonder Woman.

[The Tomcat]

Peters has been awful this year, watch the tape of the 2nd and 5 play vs the Jets.....look at who gives the 'OLAY when the linebacker comes off the edge.....Peters has looked horrible all year. Lynchs best runs have been to the Walker side. They have not been able to run over Peters/Dockery at ALL this year!!!!

 

As much I agree Peters hasn't been the best this year.

 

On that play, Peters is supposed to double team the inside guy because of the roll out of the QB. That play is entirely on JP Losman.

[Dan]

As much I agree Peters hasn't been the best this year.

 

On that play, Peters is supposed to double team the inside guy because of the roll out of the QB. That play is entirely on JP Losman.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with an offense that is designed to let blitzers come untouched to young, inexperienced QBs?

[Alphadawg7]

Am I the only one that sees a problem with an offense that is designed to let blitzers come untouched to young, inexperienced QBs?

 

The topic title on this bugs me...it implies Peters is on the block which he clearly isnt...

 

Can you change the title to be a more accurate reflection of what this truly is...a posters personal view not a topic of any substance down at Bills Headquarters...

 

Maybe - "Do you think the Bills might consider trading Peters"

[Bufcomments]

Buffalo will sign him to as large and extended contract this offseason. No way are they stupid enough to trade him away.

Ask Pat Williams and A. Winfield how smart the Bills are

 

If you think about it...if it wasnt for the 12th man this would not be a great draw for free agents

[Poeticlaw]

I'm sorry but you don't build a championship team by trading away your best players for unknowns.

 

 

We were 2-0 without him were we not? Bring on the Mcnabb for peters trade!

[NY Nole]

F Jason Peters. I am really sick of hearing about this guy. He is the most over-rated LT in football. He had a good year last season and a decent year this season (when he finally got his fat ass in shape), but has not been the "dominant" LT that so many posters on this board -- and evidently many pro bowl voters -- think he is. He has a "me-first" mentality in a team-oriented, blue collar town like buffalo. This quote sums up his whole approach "This is what you play the game for, to get to Hawaii..." What a bunch of sh-t! You play the game to be a part of a winning team. Trade this jerk. We haven't won anything with him and we sure as hell can go on without him. I'd take Joe Thomas, Jake Long or Brandon Albert over this chump any day

 

My lasting impression of him this year will be the ill-fated JP Losman sack/fumble against the Jesters, when our Pro Bowler watched the blitzing Elam march right past him en route to the fumble. Pro Bowl -- yea right.

[BillsFan74]

Peters is under contract until after the 2010 season. Why would they get rid of him now?

 

I am starting to think he is a me guy and not a team guy. He is still crying about a 5 year deal the he singed b/c $3.25 mil is not enough money and the reason he plays the game is for personal achievement. If he does not play Sunday he has mailed it in and shown me that he is soft.

[marauderswr80]

yeah lets have yet another set back for this team. If the front office dont get something done with him before next season, to hell with them all. Granted he had a rough start to the year holding out and all, but lets face it, hes our best OL. Peters has a point calling out the front office, they said they wont do any talks unless he reports, he reported and the front office has yet to hold up its end of the deal......

 

I wont be shocked if Jason Peters holds out yet again, but this time he will stand ground and WONT return.........

[billybob]

1. Jason Peters is the Bills most talented player at a position that is either 2nd or 3rd most important position.

 

2. That being said I watched Bell play in the Preseason and he has some very nice qualities- but you would need to get a lot in return to even think about it- say you made a deal with San Fran - at the least you'd want a 1st round, 3rd round, and Vernon Davis, this year and a 2nd and 5th next year.

[NavarreFL_Bills_Fan]

They need to pay the guy.

 

They re/sign mediocre guys for above market value money (Kelsey, Josh Reed, Walker, Price, Dockery, etc...) and then haggle with their top end guys (Peters, Pat Williams, Winfield, Moulds).

 

Its no wonder this team continues to stink.

 

Left tackle is a franchise position. Yes, he has plenty of leverage this year...but guess what? The Bills chose to push negotiations out another year, and he happended to get to the pro bowl again....They got another cheap year out of him, but HE has more leverage due to his performance. They should have locked him up last year.

 

Chances the Bills won't pay him the big money...they will sign some more low quality offensive lineman, and feed us the kool aid. That fits their MO, and helps explain why they haven't been to the playoffs on 9 years.

[NavarreFL_Bills_Fan]

There is a very distinct difference in retaining players and grossly over paying players to stay. We let players like Clements (thank god) walk in FA because he wanted an ABSURD amount of money and was not WORTH what he wanted. Look at the SF defense...are they really much better off after giving him what was the biggest contract in history for a defensive player?

 

That doesnt make us cheap, that makes us smart.

 

What about Pat Williams?

 

The Bills let him walk...he was even willing to take less than what he could get in the open market. The Bills were cheap again, and Pat Williiams goes on to be a cornerstone for the Vikings.

[todd]

Reading this thread makes me glad fans don't make rosters. Trading peters would be stupid. Complete stupidity. Anyone who watched him the second half of this year would realize that he has played very, very well and has deserved the pro bowl.

 

Do people who post actually watch games? Or watch games? Or understand what a pro-bowl tackle is? Jeez.

[spartacus]

Langston Walker looked just fine over there... If you move him, then you just have to replace the easier to fill RT spot. Not saying i would trade peters at all, but if the right offer came through the phone, i'd pull the trigger. (Based on our draft performance as of late, I'd prefer proven NFL talent over draft picks)

 

 

Walker can't pass block the slower pass rushers on the right side because he is too fat and slow.

 

Counting on him to play LT against elite pass rushers will require a TE to be permanently a fixed to his hip.

[marauderswr80]

After the season Buffalo had and how the team has handled the situation thus far, I can honestly see Jason Peters holding out until a trade is enforced. Which I dont blame him, the front office said they will talk to players when they report, he reported and nothing has happen. Lee Evans got his extension during the season.....so why not Peters....

[EasternOHBillsFan]

They need to pay the guy.

 

They re/sign mediocre guys for above market value money (Kelsey, Josh Reed, Walker, Price, Dockery, etc...) and then haggle with their top end guys (Peters, Pat Williams, Winfield, Moulds).

 

If you remember, all of those you mentioned were not worth the money they sought, and we were right in not overpaying for them, as will be the case with Peters.

 

Left tackle is a franchise position. Yes, he has plenty of leverage this year...but guess what? The Bills chose to push negotiations out another year, and he happended to get to the pro bowl again....They got another cheap year out of him, but HE has more leverage due to his performance. They should have locked him up last year.

 

Chances the Bills won't pay him the big money...they will sign some more low quality offensive lineman, and feed us the kool aid. That fits their MO, and helps explain why they haven't been to the playoffs on 9 years.

 

Jason Peters is not Will Wolford, or even a John Fina... he's a guy that is not a team player, not a stud, and someone will unceremoniously overpay for the guy. You may THINK signing Peters is the right move, but many of us completely disagree. We have lost the last 9 years because of our QUARTERBACK position, and everyone knows it. You could have had AIKMAN's o-line back there, and Losman, Bledsoe, Rob Johnson, Flutie, et al. STILL would have failed. Why is that so hard to see?

[todd]

I know we would all like to keep our great players but the fact is Mr. Wilson is a cheapskate who won't pay for real talent and I could see him letting Peters walk instead of paying top dollar to keep him. (even though he will overpay mediocre players like Schobel and Kelsay). That is all I'm trying to say.

 

That is a load of crap.

 

Bryce Paup

Marcus Stroud

Cornelius Bennett

Drew Bledsoe

Bruce Smith

Jimbo

Dockery

Aaron Schoebel

Spikes

 

All of those players signed very large contracts. The problem isn't signing players to big contracts, the problem is finding the correct players to sign. The facts don't support you. Also, Wilson has gone on record saying that not signing Big Pat was a huge mistake and he is still pissed about it until today.

 

Get real. The facts don't support you.

[freeagentqb]

After the season Buffalo had and how the team has handled the situation thus far, I can honestly see Jason Peters holding out until a trade is enforced. Which I dont blame him, the front office said they will talk to players when they report, he reported and nothing has happen. Lee Evans got his extension during the season.....so why not Peters....

 

They paid Lee cause he didn't hold out, showed up for all ota's and training camp and played at a high level from game numero uno. Fat Peters didn't....

[The Senator]

1. Jason Peters is the Bills most talented player at a position that is either 2nd or 3rd most important position.

 

2. That being said I watched Bell play in the Preseason and he has some very nice qualities- but you would need to get a lot in return to even think about it- say you made a deal with San Fran - at the least you'd want a 1st round, 3rd round, and Vernon Davis, this year and a 2nd and 5th next year.

I would take that trade in a NY second, and laugh my ass off as PayMe Peter's stench emanates from Candlestick Park up to Marin, down the Peninsula to San Jose, across to East Bay, and beyond.

 

Phuk FatBoy Peters.

[AlbanyBill]

That is a load of crap.

 

Drew Bledsoe

 

lol!!!!!!! are you kidding me Drew f*cking bledsoe hahaha!!!!!

[Kettle Creek Football]

Right now he is one of the cheapest but on the open market he will fetch top dollar, imo

 

Exactly. So, why trade him when you have him signed at a relative bargain?

[Kettle Creek Football]

Reading this thread makes me glad fans don't make rosters. Trading peters would be stupid. Complete stupidity. Anyone who watched him the second half of this year would realize that he has played very, very well and has deserved the pro bowl.

 

Do people who post actually watch games? Or watch games? Or understand what a pro-bowl tackle is? Jeez.

 

He has had his share of big plays early in the season, and in the running game, too. Check out his run blocking in the Raiders game on Marshawn's TD run down the left sideline.

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b050e2

[Pass the Pipe]

I'm thinking that the Bills signed what's his name to add some depth at OT as they get ready to move Peters. My thinking is that the Bills and Ralph "Mr Cheap" Wilson won't be willing to pay what he will demand after his contract is up in 2 years. I'm not sure they will trade him this offseason but next year, IMO, they will definitely shop him. I'm not so sure I would be too upset. He is good but he is going to want big $ and I'm not exactly sure he's worth it. If we could get a 1st round pick I'd be happy. thoughts?

 

 

Put another nail in this team's coffin if they trade him. It is very difficult to find quality left tackles, especially for the talent evaluators of this organization. This is the exact reason why the Bills suck today as they can't keep their top draft picks beyond the rookie contract. Peters had an off year, no offseason work and no camp, yet his peers selected him to the ProBowl.

[Mickey]

F Jason Peters. I am really sick of hearing about this guy. He is the most over-rated LT in football. He had a good year last season and a decent year this season (when he finally got his fat ass in shape), but has not been the "dominant" LT that so many posters on this board -- and evidently many pro bowl voters -- think he is. He has a "me-first" mentality in a team-oriented, blue collar town like buffalo. This quote sums up his whole approach "This is what you play the game for, to get to Hawaii..." What a bunch of sh-t! You play the game to be a part of a winning team. Trade this jerk. We haven't won anything with him and we sure as hell can go on without him. I'd take Joe Thomas, Jake Long or Brandon Albert over this chump any day

 

My lasting impression of him this year will be the ill-fated JP Losman sack/fumble against the Jesters, when our Pro Bowler watched the blitzing Elam march right past him en route to the fumble. Pro Bowl -- yea right.

"He has a "me-first" mentality in a team-oriented, blue collar town like buffalo."

 

What on earth does this have to do with winning football games? If he can play, he can play, if he can't, he can't. Whether or not your perception of his personality clashes with your perception of the personality of a whole City, as if that can be gauged, is irrelevant to the only goal at stake here: winning football games.

 

Whether ot not a guy is a jerk, as long as he avoids suspensions, means nothing on the field.

 

Are you looking to assemble an interesting guest list at a tea party or to beat the crap out of our opponents on Sunday? This obsession with personalities we like and don't like is what I would expect if we were selecting next year's edition of the Jills. When did the board get taken over by teenage girls?

[nobody]

Peters will be out of the league, or a least a shell of a player, in 3 years due to injuries. Trade him now.

[Justice]

"He has a "me-first" mentality in a team-oriented, blue collar town like buffalo."

 

What on earth does this have to do with winning football games? If he can play, he can play, if he can't, he can't. Whether or not your perception of his personality clashes with your perception of the personality of a whole City, as if that can be gauged, is irrelevant to the only goal at stake here: winning football games.

 

Whether ot not a guy is a jerk, as long as he avoids suspensions, means nothing on the field.

 

Are you looking to assemble an interesting guest list at a tea party or to beat the crap out of our opponents on Sunday? This obsession with personalities we like and don't like is what I would expect if we were selecting next year's edition of the Jills. When did the board get taken over by teenage girls?

 

Amen brother. In a way, Peters' selfishness only HELPS the Bills. If only every guy on our squad aimed for the Pro Bowl.

[flmike]

good left tackles don't grow on trees. I say pay him now before his value goes up any more. make as much of the $$ contingent on performance, whatever. I'm tired of seeing winfield and williams in the pro bowl when cheapo ralph could have easily kept both of them. I am sick of losing. Keep your best players. Spend right up to the cap, Ralph, you cheap SOB. And suck it up and pay Crowell too. No more waiting for draft choices to mature. We have enough of those. Lets win some games.

 

Sadly he has a history of wanting to renegotiate well before his contract is up. Signing him now would make no difference. Peters is a good LT but not good enough to hold the team hostage. Money is his god, and it will continue to be in 2 years when he walks and we get nothing for it.

[Bflojohn]

Let's examine this from Jason Peters perspective.... He wants a new contract or fat extension, so what are his options? His ONLY option is another holdout, and frankly he is stuck in quicksand again because the Buffalo Bills made him "happy" once upon a time 3 years ago! The prevailing sentiment at One Bills Drive is that they don't have to pay Peters a nickel until he proves that he is willing to play first, then negotiate when he's in camp. The Bills said this all along during OTA's, camp, and just prior to the regular season. Who won? The Bills gained the upper hand because another lengthy holdout, this year, will undoubtedly cause the two sides to really entrench themselves and in that scenario no one wins!! The other factor Jason better come to grips with is that Walter Jones got franchised something like 5 times by the Seahawks, so the Bills really have quite the hammer in any further ploys Jasons' people might come up with. The final bit of the equation is that Peters proved that his own self-motivation to stay in shape during a holdout was next to nonexistant! It's his career, let's see if he's smart enough to report and play for his pay this offseason. My personal response would be no to the likelihood.....

[freeagentqb]

Amen brother. In a way, Peters' selfishness only HELPS the Bills. If only every guy on our squad aimed for the Pro Bowl.

That's a great thought. Hope all of our good players stage a silent hold out next year, come in out of shape and contribute from around game 5 or 6. Screw the team, its me first from now on. Put free agents and rookies in the line up for games one through six. Yeah, sounds good to me...