12/14/2025 GAMEDAY Bills at Patriots* Post Game Game Thread AFCE Battle

[BRH]

15 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Yes! Said nearly the same thing about Hollins to my son last year after the Houston game (he's a baseball player). Dude can't track the deep ball!

 

Yep... it's a skill for sure and Hollins ain't got it.  That's why Tre was able to snag it without too much interference from Hollins, who barely knew where the ball was at that point.

[Goin Breakdown]

28 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

That ***** idiot Vrable is bitching about the Bills not having any offensive holding penalties called on them, completing ignoring the offensive holding penalty that wiped out Allen's rushing TD that made it 28-24 Bills. What a douchy franchise. 

 

 https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6Vv_62xqYx4kFsAGNG4P77a575hPgyJV?si=odG414TTFVR-0d6a

Wasn't it vrable who was accusing McD of ref blaming after the game earlier this season?  

[Bruffalo]

30 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

That ***** idiot Vrable is bitching about the Bills not having any offensive holding penalties called on them, completing ignoring the offensive holding penalty that wiped out Allen's rushing TD that made it 28-24 Bills. What a douchy franchise. 

 

 https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6Vv_62xqYx4kFsAGNG4P77a575hPgyJV?si=odG414TTFVR-0d6a

 

He was in the ear of the sideline judge the whole game. He's a jerk who can't control himself, and the Patriots are doing the same thing as the Titans did for many years.

 

They're going to be bounced early from the playoffs after being regular season darlings.

[mannc]

12 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

 

He was in the ear of the sideline judge the whole game. He's a jerk who can't control himself, and the Patriots are doing the same thing as the Titans did for many years.

 

They're going to be bounced early from the playoffs after being regular season darlings.

Now I remember why I can’t stand Vrabel…

[Sestak4ever]

11 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

 

He was in the ear of the sideline judge the whole game. He's a jerk who can't control himself, and the Patriots are doing the same thing as the Titans did for many years.

 

They're going to be bounced early from the playoffs after being regular season darlings.

Also funny how he didn’t mention how they were gifted 3 points at the end of the half with the atrocious clock management and how his guy threw a punch at Milano, but both were penalized.

[MikePJ76]

 

[Psautcsk]

17 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

 

Did Vrabel point out the wide discrepancy between the number of offensive holding calls on the Bills this year vs. their opponents? That is the real issue.From what I can see the Bills have 28 and opponents have 8.

Edited 12 hours ago by Psautcsk

[Dillenger4]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

Denver looked pretty good beating GB yesterday. I am not saying the Bills can't beat the Broncos (they can), but it will be a tough game at Mile High if the Bills have to go there.

Hmm. I saw it differently. Parsons went down and that deflated the Packers. The Pack aren't that great to begin with. But you never know... Bills look good!

We would destroy Denver! Their offense is pedestrian. good D though

[davefan66]

Holding can be called on every NFL play. Refs decide when to call them. Call a hard to see one? Call the obvious one? Don’t call either?

 

Once a team is flagged as a “holding team”, refs tend to look for it with those teams. Just look at our return game holding calls! No way we are holding that much more than any other team.

[JoeF]

Vrabel had two weeks to prepare for this game.  His team was fresh coming off a bye. 

 

The opposing team stayed in a hotel that was within a shelter in place order because of a campus shooting...a bit of an additional distraction 

 

Vrabel's team got out to a 21-0 lead and let up.  They talked trash (particularly Diggs and Hollins)...but in the end couldn't back it up.  He blames the refs - typical Pats arrogance.

 

I hope the Bills get the chance to play them again with Benford, Oliver, Bernard.....from the mid second quarter on the Bills won 35-10...

 

I am really happy its okay to raise the level of hate of the Pats again!!!

 

Edited 12 hours ago by JoeF

[MikePJ76]

Someone should ask Mike Vrabel how he feels about Vedarian Lowe getting away with a blatant hands to the face on Groot, right in front of the Referee.  This was a critical third and 3 on the drive into the half that they ended up getting 3 points out of.   This was a direct violation of Rule 12 sections 1-2 illegal use of hands/facemask.

 

watch the play....Lowe's lefthand goes right to groots face and pushes it up and he just leaves it there the whole time.  Should have been third and thirteen.

 

Funny how Vrable just missed this one!  This missed call resulted directly in points for New England.

 

 

 

[Steptide]

The butt hurt in new England today is massive. Seeing soooo much complaining about the flags that went our way. Haven't seen any new England fans complaining about blowing a 21 point lead 

[stevewin]

23 hours ago, finn said:

Speaking of which, I wonder how Chris Simms is going to spin this game. 

Just caught this - Simms was effusive in his praise of the Bills team, Josh, and McD today

 

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

You are making it personal. With respect, I'm not going there because that's not what this forum is about. 

 

Go Bills! 

 

@newcam2012, I'm sorry I came after you.

 

I was wrong.

 

Please accept my apologies.

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

10 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

You are making it personal. With respect, I'm not going there because that's not what this forum is about. 

 

Go Bills! 

True but look at the two halves Allen played. It cuts both ways...

Allen saw what needed to get done and did it. Maye couldn’t, right now his is a very good game manager. Nothing special about the guy. He could develop into something more, but I question it. I’d rather have a qb like Josh who has to be reigned in, who is a gunslinger and will try to do whatever it takes to win. Maye looked scared to make a play. Not sure if that’s his personality or coaching. 

[juno999]

11 hours ago, wjag said:

In game one, Maye found Diggs at every key moment.  Yesterday, Diggs had three catches on four targets.  Anyone have a sense on what changed?  I know he was going to Diggs on the 4th down pass Bosa tipped.  But outside of Diggs clearly beating Taron from the jump on the crosser, Diggs was largely not a factor in the play calling.  Curious what others think.  If your response is just, Diggs s**cks, save it.  I'm looking for some football analysis on either what the Bills did better or what the Patriots did/didn't do.

In the first game, Maye rolled out to his right a fair amount and killed the Bills. Yesterday the Bills did a cage rush on Maye to prevent him from rolling out to his right. The last play they set him up with Bosa charging at him unabated. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

We've seen it called often. I've always hated that it's more often than not called pass interference. 

 

On this specific play I think the contact was marginal and the defender made a great play. He turned around and found the ball. I also don't think it was duel possession. Rather, I think he took the ball from Shakir. I think the Bills got a huge break there. 

He shoved Shakir out of the way and drove him upfield to try to catch the ball…pretty easy completion without the dpi..  this really wasn’t  your typical ‘way underthrown ball’ scenario.  Jones was playing the receiver not the ball

 

the more I watch it I don’t think it’s a catch but I’m more sure it’s dpi lol 

 

flag wasn’t even that late…I think they were letting jones do his thing then saw that final little chuck and they were like yea that’s too much.  

Edited 4 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

@newcam2012, I'm sorry I came after you.

 

I was wrong.

 

Please accept my apologies.

 

Of course I will. I'm not upset and hold no grudges. I know I can be a jerk sometimes and I'll apologize for that too. 

1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Allen saw what needed to get done and did it. Maye couldn’t, right now his is a very good game manager. Nothing special about the guy. He could develop into something more, but I question it. I’d rather have a qb like Josh who has to be reigned in, who is a gunslinger and will try to do whatever it takes to win. Maye looked scared to make a play. Not sure if that’s his personality or coaching. 

Ok! 👍