Joe Buscaglia on Bills Evolving and Improved Receiver Room-- The Athletic

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

the 2026 discussion is interesting...

 

You would assume Davis and Cooks are gone. 

 

Healthy Palmer (fingers crossed, but can we count on that from a planning perspective?), Shakir, Shavers, Coleman (he isn't going to get cut if I'm betting, just doesn't make financial sense) and a rookie or 2? Is THAT good enough? I guess it depends on who the rookie(s) is and their impact. We aren't going to be spending in FA because we don't have the money.

 

Swing a trade for a disgruntled Justin Jefferson? I don't know. 

If Justin Jefferson is available then Beane needs to offer the Vikings 2 firsts.  And before people say that’s too much… Who would you rather have ? Justin Jefferson or Kair Elam & Dalton Kincaid? It’ll never happen, but a man can dream. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Palmer   MVS

Gabe.     Watson 

Shakir     Rice

Shavers  Ross

Cooks.    James

 

That's a little better than kcs wrs in 23 but they had Kelce 

 

We have Kincaid 

 

So I still think we can get by 

 

Obviously not ideal but serviceable 

 

I'm hoping they roll with 6 wrs with Hardman in the playoffs 

 

KC didn’t have much of a running game to protect those guys either.  They saw a lot of light boxes and still didn’t run it super well 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

If Justin Jefferson is available then Beane needs to offer the Vikings 2 firsts.  And before people say that’s too much… Who would you rather have ? Justin Jefferson or Kair Elam & Dalton Kincaid? It’ll never happen, but a man can dream. 

Would two firsts get it done?

 

Could easily see KC offering that as well, especially if they miss the playoffs, and their picks would be higher than ours. 
 

Might be two 1’s plus extra.  

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Casey D said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6876753/2025/12/10/buffalo-bills-wide-receivers-josh-allen/?source=athletic_user_shared_article_email&smid=em-share-ta

 

Behind a paywall

Brother.... nothign is behind a paywall. it's just sad that the journalists didn't take their advice and learn to code...

 

anyway... eff them, here is a non paywall link

 

https://archive.ph/7Goyl

[GroteStreet]

35 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Look this WR room isn't good.  The top 2 spots MUST be upgraded and with 1 of them a guy a DC has to at least respect. 

 

I say trade our 2026 1st for a WR. I dont trust Branes evaluation of WR's at all.  Trade the dang pick and get someone established.

 

Now who to trade for... I don't know.  We need to see how the season finishes, then see who is disgruntled, and who might be able to be traded for.

I have heard a few analysts say that the bills do not have a legitimate WR2 (and WR1) on the roster.   Team is wasting a generational talent at QB with this level of talent at WR.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

I think Gabe is back. I think Coleman is gone. And Samuel. I think we both get a FA and draft in the first 3 rounds a WR. The WR room starts to look a lot better when guys like Shakir, Davis, Shakir and Palmer move down the barbershop pole.

[BeastMaster]

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Would two firsts get it done?

 

Could easily see KC offering that as well, especially if they miss the playoffs, and their picks would be higher than ours. 
 

Might be two 1’s plus extra.  

If he becomes available in trade, the Bills must pay whatever the cost to get this guy

 

It's almost like erasing the mistake of not drafting him and having him paired with Josh instead of Diggs

 

I don't think the Vikings make him available, but who knows.

[Urban Achievers]

Jefferson trade or bust!!

[Tanoros]

57 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

People are enamored with the idea that the Bills should pick WR in 1st round. Only about 1 out of 5 chosen become 1,000 plus yard receivers and most don’t get there until 3 seasons in.  I am not saying do not make the pick if a candidate is there.

 

I’m simply saying that the pick is not a lock.

Of course it’s not a lock, but we have to draft some premium talent at receiver. Realistically, because of the receiver contracts it wouldn’t be wrong to draft a receiver every year, not always high, but constantly churn receivers and if we can’t keep them, we have a good chance at getting comp picks. 
 

I think this upcoming draft is the perfect time to take two receivers, or trade up for a premium receiver (trading up may preclude drafting 2). 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

19 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Would two firsts get it done?

 

Could easily see KC offering that as well, especially if they miss the playoffs, and their picks would be higher than ours. 
 

Might be two 1’s plus extra.  

If the difference is an extra 3rd rounder or so then you pull the trigger. Not often does a young HOF WR without huge character concerns come around on the trade block. 

[Tanoros]

53 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Look this WR room isn't good.  The top 2 spots MUST be upgraded and with 1 of them a guy a DC has to at least respect. 

 

I say trade our 2026 1st for a WR. I dont trust Branes evaluation of WR's at all.  Trade the dang pick and get someone established.

 

Now who to trade for... I don't know.  We need to see how the season finishes, then see who is disgruntled, and who might be able to be traded for.

Would you trade for Aiyuk? Because of what’s going on in San Fransisco he might be had a bit cheaper than normal top receiver. 

[Rochesterfan]

30 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

If Justin Jefferson is available then Beane needs to offer the Vikings 2 firsts.  And before people say that’s too much… Who would you rather have ? Justin Jefferson or Kair Elam & Dalton Kincaid? It’ll never happen, but a man can dream. 

 

Why do you think 2 late first round picks would get a trade done.

 

There is almost no world I see that working and if that was acceptable- there are 10 other teams in front of us that would make the trade with higher capital.

 

JJ is not available for Buffalo without an additional overpay.  Think 2 firsts and a 2nd to cover what people lower are offering or 2 1sts and a legitimate young player.

[Tanoros]

37 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

If Justin Jefferson is available then Beane needs to offer the Vikings 2 firsts.  And before people say that’s too much… Who would you rather have ? Justin Jefferson or Kair Elam & Dalton Kincaid? It’ll never happen, but a man can dream. 

I would love getting Jefferson, but it’s not fair to compare him to Elam and Kincaid. Yes, those are two recent firsts, but Jefferson was a late first round pick, it could easily be a home run. You just don’t know, and it’s disingenuous to dismiss two first round picks. 
 

That being said, I’d be ok going and getting Jefferson. He is a no doubt star and someone much better than even Diggs was. Allen woukd thrive with him. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Why do you think 2 late first round picks would get a trade done.

 

There is almost no world I see that working and if that was acceptable- there are 10 other teams in front of us that would make the trade with higher capital.

 

JJ is not available for Buffalo without an additional overpay.  Think 2 firsts and a 2nd to cover what people lower are offering or 2 1sts and a legitimate young player.

Please give me an example of a NON QB who commanded more than 2 first rounders and a 2nd ? 

 

Nobody and i repeat NOBODY is giving the Vikings a 1, 1, and a 2 for Jefferson. Late or not. That’s an insane overpay. 

6 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

I would love getting Jefferson, but it’s not fair to compare him to Elam and Kincaid. Yes, those are two recent firsts, but Jefferson was a late first round pick, it could easily be a home run. You just don’t know, and it’s disingenuous to dismiss two first round picks. 
 

That being said, I’d be ok going and getting Jefferson. He is a no doubt star and someone much better than even Diggs was. Allen woukd thrive with him. 

Beane doesn’t know how to draft Wide Receivers. It’s by far his weakest area when it comes to evaluation. I am much more comfortable going out and buying a WR1 with this regime. We don’t have the time to wait for someone to develop only for them to bust. 

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Please give me an example of a NON QB who commanded more than 2 first rounders and a 2nd ? 

 

Nobody and i repeat NOBODY is giving the Vikings a 1, 1, and a 2 for Jefferson. Late or not. That’s an insane overpay. 

I could see it

[nuklz2594]

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

8 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Please give me an example of a NON QB who commanded more than 2 first rounders and a 2nd ? 

 

Nobody and i repeat NOBODY is giving the Vikings a 1, 1, and a 2 for Jefferson. Late or not. That’s an insane overpay. 

Beane doesn’t know how to draft Wide Receivers. It’s by far his weakest area when it comes to evaluation. I am much more comfortable going out and buying a WR1 with this regime. We don’t have the time to wait for someone to develop only for them to bust. 

 

Micah Parsons went for 2x 1sts and a quality starter. Khalil Mack was 2x 1sts, 3rd, and 6th.

 

I'd say 2x 1sts is the starting point for a JJ trade. The addon probably doesn't need to be a 2nd, but it wouldn't be far off.

 

Someone else mentioned Aiyuk - couldn't we sign him as a FA? I thought the 49ers were voiding his contract. Of course he'll be 28 years old coming off a major knee injury and now has personality concerns...

[Rochesterfan]

6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Please give me an example of a NON QB who commanded more than 2 first rounders and a 2nd ? 

 

Nobody and i repeat NOBODY is giving the Vikings a 1, 1, and a 2 for Jefferson. Late or not. That’s an insane overpay. 

Beane doesn’t know how to draft Wide Receivers. It’s by far his weakest area when it comes to evaluation. I am much more comfortable going out and buying a WR1 with this regime. We don’t have the time to wait for someone to develop only for them to bust. 

 

Jamal Adams went for 2 1sts and a 3rd.  If Jefferson is the best WR it would have to beat what Sauce Gardner went for - again 2 1sts for middling CB.

 

Parsons went for 2 1sts and a ProBowl player just last year.

 

I am just saying - I don’t see Minnesota making a trade for as you said - a Top WR with little personal issues - unless it is a huge overpay.  They have the money and the need for him what are they getting for letting him go.
 

To me starting is 2 1sts from a top 10-15 team looking to jump with a young QB and then it goes up as you get later and later.  For Buffalo - 2 1sts would not even be listened to for a late round pick and probably a SB level team next year.

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

Side Note: there was no harsher critic on these boards (maybe a couple) than me when it came to my derision of Gabe Davis...

 

...as a Number 2, or a 1A, which I never thought he was...AND paying him.

 

Was I fine when they brought him back?  Yep.

 

Do I want him on this team next year?

 

100% honestly no doubt.

 

$3-$5 million for 36-44 grabs a year as a 4th WR, then I am in.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

[uninja]

41 minutes ago, Urban Achievers said:

Jefferson trade or bust!!

 

I'm looking at our cap space and his contract and...I just don't see how it makes sense. I feel like you'd be forcing the Bills to make a lot of bad choices w.r.t depth and in other areas to make his contract and JA's contract work. Granted you can work some magic with the cap but you can only kick the can down the road so many times before it catches up to you.