Tyrell Shavers and blocking as a WR

[Bufffalo_Bills_NH]

It seems that every time they showed a slo mo replay when James was cooking Shavers was out there blocking his a$$ off.  I was wondering if anyone else noticed it and if you saw the same thing that I saw.  Also, big shoutout to Hawes, too, for great blocking.  Many time those 2 created the hole for James to utilize.

[FireChans]

Shavers is a great blocker.  Stallworth could never.

[34-78-83]

Lots of those blocks by 14 are covered in here nicely.

[HOUSE]

15 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Shavers is a great blocker.  Stallworth could never.

👍

[Ralonzo]

 

[Ya Digg?]

Look I get it, in order to get big gains in the run game your wide receivers have to block, but ever since Mac “blocking is the best/only thing I do as a wide receiver” Hollins was on the team, there is such a weird obsession with wide receiver blocking.

 

I miss the days when we looked forward to our wide receivers, you know, catching the ball 

[Matt_In_NH]

The bills are revolutionizing a new position.  Introducing the “Wide Blocker”

[BuffaloMatt]

12 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Look I get it, in order to get big gains in the run game your wide receivers have to block, but ever since Mac “blocking is the best/only thing I do as a wide receiver” Hollins was on the team, there is such a weird obsession with wide receiver blocking.

 

I miss the days when we looked forward to our wide receivers, you know, catching the ball 

Hollins lead team with TD catches last year. Also converted a big third down in our loss to NE.

[WotAGuy]

14 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Look I get it, in order to get big gains in the run game your wide receivers have to block, but ever since Mac “blocking is the best/only thing I do as a wide receiver” Hollins was on the team, there is such a weird obsession with wide receiver blocking.

 

I miss the days when we looked forward to our wide receivers, you know, catching the ball 

This goes back to Lou Saban days when he had 9 guys blocking and one handing off to OJ. Bobbie Chandler was a great crack back blocker, ya digg?

[BuffaloBillyG]

27 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Look I get it, in order to get big gains in the run game your wide receivers have to block, but ever since Mac “blocking is the best/only thing I do as a wide receiver” Hollins was on the team, there is such a weird obsession with wide receiver blocking.

 

I miss the days when we looked forward to our wide receivers, you know, catching the ball 

Goes back further. 

 

How can you forget Jake Kumerow? 

[FireChans]

44 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Look I get it, in order to get big gains in the run game your wide receivers have to block, but ever since Mac “blocking is the best/only thing I do as a wide receiver” Hollins was on the team, there is such a weird obsession with wide receiver blocking.

 

I miss the days when we looked forward to our wide receivers, you know, catching the ball 

It's not an obsession. It's a spin zone.  There is a difference.

[BearNorth]

40 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

This goes back to Lou Saban days when he had 9 guys blocking and one handing off to OJ. Bobbie Chandler was a great crack back blocker, ya digg?

Yeah Paul Costa the tight end was then converted to OT because he was such a great blocker.

[PoundingDog]

1 hour ago, 34-78-83 said:

Lots of those blocks by 14 are covered in here nicely.

I think the reason Allen didn't throw those seemingly easy passes is because he does not trust guys like Cooks (yet), and Coleman (who let him down too many times). There is also a confidence issue with himself based on the last few stretch of games where he didn't play particularly well throwing or decision making. It's funny thing about confidence. If the Bills getting on a row to get thru the next 2 games, I'd believe Allen's confidence will be right back. 

[vincec]

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The bills are revolutionizing a new position.  Introducing the “Wide Blocker”

Shavers led all receivers in reps. Shows you the relative importance of blocking vs receiving skill in this offense.

[transient]

38 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

I think the reason Allen didn't throw those seemingly easy passes is because he does not trust guys like Cooks (yet), and Coleman (who let him down too many times). There is also a confidence issue with himself based on the last few stretch of games where he didn't play particularly well throwing or decision making. It's funny thing about confidence. If the Bills getting on a row to get thru the next 2 games, I'd believe Allen's confidence will be right back. 

I imagine, if Allen is in his own head thinking about whether or not to throw the ball to a given player because he doesn’t have confidence in that person even for a split second, it has to directly play into his own performance. The split second delay in this league is the difference between a ball delivered on time and a pick. When Kinkaid is active he doesn’t hesitate to him. I have to imagine, aside from Shakir, he has no one else in his WR corps right now that he feels is money. Has to be mind ####ing him this season. 

[rajinka]

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The bills are revolutionizing a new position.  Introducing the “Wide Blocker”

That's wide end tyvm

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Hawes was the true hero...he neutralized Watt in the game....This guy is a gem.

14 minutes ago, transient said:

I imagine, if Allen is in his own head thinking about whether or not to throw the ball to a given player because he doesn’t have confidence in that person even for a split second, it has to directly play into his own performance. The split second delay in this league is the difference between a ball delivered on time and a pick. When Kinkaid is active he doesn’t hesitate to him. I have to imagine, aside from Shakir, he has no one else in his WR corps right now that he feels is money. Has to be mind ####ing him this season. 

That is a shame...Allen should be correcting that *****.  What is the QB coach doing ? 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Shavers is a great blocker.  Stallworth could never.

 

 

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

Yeah Paul Costa the tight end was then converted to OT because he was such a great blocker.

And then he made OT Paul Seymour a TE!

[PoundingDog]

30 minutes ago, transient said:

I imagine, if Allen is in his own head thinking about whether or not to throw the ball to a given player because he doesn’t have confidence in that person even for a split second, it has to directly play into his own performance. The split second delay in this league is the difference between a ball delivered on time and a pick. When Kinkaid is active he doesn’t hesitate to him. I have to imagine, aside from Shakir, he has no one else in his WR corps right now that he feels is money. Has to be mind ####ing him this season. 

 

17 minutes ago, ganesh said:

That is a shame...Allen should be correcting that *****.  What is the QB coach doing ? 

@ganesh is right. As a QB, especially in Bills everyone eats world, Allen should NOT have that in his mind at all. In fact I'd say that's the difference between the MVP last year and this year. In his early years, he tended to use his legs in similar situations. It is a shame but it happens to every QB. Mahomes did this. Rodgers is notorious for that as well.

 

He could be overly cautious, especially after the 1st INT. When the running game is going and our D has a strong hold, you can afford to be conservative, taking easier throws. Brady has said on TV before that he always advised Allen to make easier throws than risky ones when given options. The problems with this Bills WRs is that options -- multiple guys getting open -- are not often so Allen has to pull the trigger the minute he sees one. Again I think he may not have the confidence of his mechanics right now to make a perfect throw.