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If Missing the Playoffs Is What it Will Take for Change, Would You Welcome It?  

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  1. 1. If Missing the Playoffs Is What it Will Take for Change, Would You Welcome It?

    • Yes - If it Means McDermott Goes
    • Yes - If it Means Beane Goes
    • Yes - If it Means Beane and McDermott Go
    • No - I Want Beane to Stay
    • No - I Want McDermott to Stay
    • No - I Want Beane and McDermott to Stay


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Is this regime really untouchable?

 

Missing the playoffs might be the only thing to precipitate real change. 
 

Is that a reasonable sacrifice?

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Very interesting to see the "best fans" - the ones who dont criticise and spend most of their time abusing people who have had complaints for a long time now appearing again. Its almost like they were wrong. Time and time and time again.

 

Anyway, we will win next week and they will be back policing negative comments from "not real fans". Rinse and repeat

 

This coach (in particular!) and this GM (on the balance of probabilities) aint it.

Havent been for at least 2.5 years.

Glad its becoming more obvious to these top top fans

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Terry is not firing either of them anytime soon, or maybe ever.  Terry values having his type of people in these positions, more than winning Championships.  

 

He literally wont fire the worst GM, on the worst team in professional sports.  Most people think he will promote Kevyn before firing him.

 

Terry just wants to be heard and coddled.  This GMs and coaches know how to please him and stick around.  They are made men.

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Beane and McDermott aren’t going anywhere. They’ve done way too much winning to let  one bad season derail what they have built. They will 1000% get the opportunity to fix it. 

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Again, regardless of philosophy, or how Allen is being used etc. 

 

They had 9 years to build a defense like we saw last night in the Texans and it never got close. Pass rush never got close 

 

So do with that information as you will ....

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They will not get rid of McD. The Bills aren't like a lot of other teams. They were irrelevant for years and years, going through countless coaches and philosophies, then they finally got a guy who truly changed the fortunes around and made them a perennial contender.

 

Now you can say Josh Allen had more to do with this and I'd agree with you, but he did break the drought before Allen arrived and he does run a tight ship and has accumulated a lot of wins. No way they fire him and risk going back to irrelevancy. The Bills are the equivalent of a man with low self esteem and confidence who finally gets an attractive woman to marry him. There's no way he's ever divorcing her, no matter how much of a pain in the a*s she becomes.

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A change is needed and has been needed. The people resistant to change will point to what they’ve accomplished in their time here. That’s fine. I think though, we are at a point where we can all agree that they’re trending in the wrong direction. This team is worse now than they were 5 years ago. The bad drafts, contracts, and scheme are catching up. Does anyone feel like running it back next year will yield better results?? If so, based on what?? Please don’t say injuries either. Every team has them and the Bills have largely played with their best players outside of Oliver (and recently Kincaid). They aren’t this inconsistent, and often overwhelmed, because a few guys are out. What logical signs are you seeing to say, it’ll be better next year?

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I find myself asking the question: if this year's Bills team is not good enough to win the Super Bowl, and that certainly seems to be the case based on the 11-game sample size, is there any actual benefit to making the playoffs? I can't imagine the players on this team are getting any kind of psychological boost or confidence for the future with every subsequent playoff exit. 

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I don't want to miss the playoffs to force regime change, no. 

 

But I am increasingly of the view Beane has to go. I know we have some injuries but this roster beyond 4 or 5 guys sucks. It really does. And by extension that means McDermott has to go, because to me they are a package deal, I want my GM and coach being a package deal and replacing one then forcing a new person on the other almost never works. 

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't want to miss the playoffs to force regime change, no. 

 

But I am increasingly of the view Beane has to go. I know we have some injuries but this roster beyond 4 or 5 guys sucks. It really does. And by extension that means McDermott has to go, because to me they are a package deal, I want my GM and coach being a package deal and replacing one then forcing a new person on the other almost never works. 

Glad you could make it!! I’ve been saving you a seat (since January of 2022). 

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34 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Is this regime really untouchable?

 

Missing the playoffs might be the only thing to precipitate real change. 
 

Is that a reasonable sacrifice?


The owner of this team owns the most pathetic NHL franchise that hasn’t made the playoffs in over a decade. What makes you think lack of playoffs moves the needle for pegs???

 

He got his stadium with PSL’s effectively selling out the stadium for years to come. No reason now to put a product in the field that is any good.

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14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

A change is needed and has been needed. The people resistant to change will point to what they’ve accomplished in their time here. That’s fine. I think though, we are at a point where we can all agree that they’re trending in the wrong direction. This team is worse now than they were 5 years ago. The bad drafts, contracts, and scheme are catching up. Does anyone feel like running it back next year will yield better results?? If so, based on what?? Please don’t say injuries either. Every team has them and the Bills have largely played with their best players outside of Oliver (and recently Kincaid). They aren’t this inconsistent, and often overwhelmed, because a few guys are out. What logical signs are you seeing to say, it’ll be better next year?


The biggest miss is they have reloaded on defense this offseason, and it's gotten worse. Bad contracts, really bad drafting and aging vets. And the fundementals are just awful, it's a complete poo bag. 

 

And then it's what the heck they'll do on the offensive side of the ball.

EDIT:  I don't think Beane/McD deserve to solve those problems.

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