Josh Allen "Most Betrayed" QB in the NFL

[Buffalo716]

11 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Playing Klein was a decision.   A terrible one.  He may have known the defense but he was spent.  Every single team deals with injuries.   It's a lame excuse.  

This is the last thing I'll say on the subject it's not a lame excuse 

 

They had four players on the injury report... Patrick mahomes who is 100% playing.. two backups and 1 starter and they played .. any injury that happened 8 weeks ago is irrelevant because they're professionals and adapt.. I never throw von Miller's injury into our injury discussion because we had eight weeks to adapt okay

 

The bills didn't have their best safety.. and lost their best cornerback in the first half 

 

But we had 10 players on the injury report going into Arrowhead.. in a game of inches 

... Played without two starters ... Six starters and two contributing backups on the injury report with fresh injuries from the last 10 days 

 

This is a game of inches and all of that happened and we lost by three... If we were healthy we're beating the Chiefs 

 

That doesn't even talk about the injury report two years ago

 

I don't care if you don't believe me I am fully certain that the bills can and will win versus the Chiefs if healthy.. beating them five straight times in the regular season shows we can .. that's not a fluke

 

Everybody says they have a better roster than us yet were barely losing while being hurt more ... Ravens had six all pros last year and we beat them in the playoffs 

 

Maybe McDermott's not that bad of a coach

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

This is the last thing I'll say on the subject it's not a lame excuse 

 

They had four players on the injury report... Patrick mahomes who is 100% playing.. two backups and 1 starter and they played .. any injury that happened 8 weeks ago is irrelevant because they're professionals and adapt.. I never throw von Miller's injury into our injury discussion because we had eight weeks to adapt okay

 

The bills didn't have their best safety.. and lost their best cornerback in the first half 

 

But we had 10 players on the injury report going into Arrowhead.. in a game of inches 

... Played without two starters ... Six starters and two contributing backups on the injury report with fresh injuries from the last 10 days 

 

This is a game of inches and all of that happened and we lost by three... If we were healthy we're beating the Chiefs 

 

That doesn't even talk about the injury report two years ago

 

I don't care if you don't believe me I am fully certain that the bills can and will win versus the Chiefs if healthy.. beating them five straight times in the regular season shows we can .. that's not a fluke

 

Everybody says they have a better roster than us yet were barely losing while being hurt more ... Ravens had six all pros last year and we beat them in the playoffs 

 

Maybe McDermott's not that bad of a coach

 

 

 

 

 

2021 was he best defense this regime fielded. We allowed over 40 points at home to the Colts, over 250 yards rushing. We allowed 40+ to Chiefs in 13 seconds. This was never going to be some dominant playoff unit. No evidence to suggest that besides beating up on inexperienced QB’s. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Mikie2times

[L Ron Burgundy]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

This is the last thing I'll say on the subject it's not a lame excuse 

 

They had four players on the injury report... Patrick mahomes who is 100% playing.. two backups and 1 starter and they played .. any injury that happened 8 weeks ago is irrelevant because they're professionals and adapt.. I never throw von Miller's injury into our injury discussion because we had eight weeks to adapt okay

 

The bills didn't have their best safety.. and lost their best cornerback in the first half 

 

But we had 10 players on the injury report going into Arrowhead.. in a game of inches 

... Played without two starters ... Six starters and two contributing backups on the injury report with fresh injuries from the last 10 days 

 

This is a game of inches and all of that happened and we lost by three... If we were healthy we're beating the Chiefs 

 

That doesn't even talk about the injury report two years ago

 

I don't care if you don't believe me I am fully certain that the bills can and will win versus the Chiefs if healthy.. beating them five straight times in the regular season shows we can .. that's not a fluke

 

Everybody says they have a better roster than us yet were barely losing while being hurt more ... Ravens had six all pros last year and we beat them in the playoffs 

 

Maybe McDermott's not that bad of a coach

 

 

 

 

 

Every team has injuries in the playoffs.   I'll grant you that year, that game, it was worse and we likely win if healthy.   What about other years?   The excuse game is lame.  

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

2021 was he best defense this regime fielded. We allowed over 40 points at home to the Colts, over 250 yards rushing. We allowed 40+ to Chiefs in 13 seconds. This was never going to be some dominant playoff unit. No evidence to suggest that besides beating up on inexperienced QB’s. 

 

Philip Rivers is a tremendous quarterback and was doing basically what Daniel Jones was doing right now and look how good they are 

 

Patrick mahomes is obviously a beast 

 

Philip Rivers is way better than Daniel Jones and look what the colts are doing right now.. they have a really good offense in place

 

Philip Rivers had a great offensive line and a running back with some weapons a better team than he had in 12 years in San Diego no matter what their record says 

 

And that was his last hurray 

 

Patrick mahomes is Patrick mahomes and can score 30 on any team just like Josh Allen... Gabe Davis looked like Jerry Rice versus the Chiefs secondary 

 

We had none of those big time weapons they had.. they had all pros we had stefon diggs who didn't show up big in the playoffs

Edited 11 hours ago by Buffalo716

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yeah but if this index was around 4-5 years ago Josh would have had the most friendly index 

 

And we still would have complained 

 

But we've put out a lot of top 10 defenses that were top five in a lot of categories .. including a number one defense

 

Our defense is playing like crap right now of course the metrics don't support

Our previous defenses were in the top in "Yardage Allowed" and Turnovers.    I don't think we have ever had a strong run defense in McDermott's term.

 

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Philip Rivers is a tremendous quarterback and was doing basically what Daniel Jones was doing right now and look how good they are 

 

Patrick mahomes is obviously a beast 

 

Philip Rivers is way better than Daniel Jones and look what the colts are doing right now.. they have a really good offense in place

You could say they had a “playoff caliber” offense 

[Special K]

3 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

Pretty dramatic name for a metric

 

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

Our previous defenses were in the top in "Yardage Allowed" and Turnovers.    I don't think we have ever had a strong run defense in McDermott's term.

 

That year we would consistently jump out to 14+ leads, then put offenses in pass only scripts with back up level QB’s and we just steam rolled people. Not exactly what we face when the stakes get higher. 

[Buffalo716]

20 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

You could say they had a “playoff caliber” offense 

They averaged like 28 points per game in the regular season with rivers 

 

They held them to  24 in his final hoorah.. the game he put it all on the line

 

They had a great line , a stud young running back running hard.. couple good tight ends ty Hilton and Michael Pittman 

 

Scoring 28 points per game in the regular season is not a bum when Patrick mahomes has scored 22 points per game The last 2 years

Edited 11 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Kirby Jackson]

This is especially bad when you consider the prime assets invested into the defense. It’s been lots of early picks and most of their cap dollars. It validates the thought that you should build up Josh’s weapons before his defense. You’re 7-3 with them being bad. The delta from the guys that you have to replacement level is small. Build from Josh out. Stop worrying about everything else until he has the weapons & protection that he needs. If you’re ever going to win it’s because of him. That’s all that matters. Go get him better pass catchers and it won’t matter that his defense is bad. Stop investing there until the offense is set. 

[Xwnyer]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yeah but if this index was around 4-5 years ago Josh would have had the most friendly index 

 

And we still would have complained 

 

But we've put out a lot of top 10 defenses that were top five in a lot of categories .. including a number one defense

 

Our defense is playing like crap right now of course the metrics don't support

What I don’t understand is all this investment in defense and we went from first to worst 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Mr. WEO]

Just gotta start investing more draft capital in the Defense I guess....

[Gregg]

Relax people. Beane and McDermott have only been here 9 years. They will figure it out in year 10. 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

Relax people. Beane and McDermott have only been here 9 years. They will figure it out in year 10. 

N = N + 1 syndrome.  Go Bills !!!

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

That “Betrayal Index” pales in comparison to a few of my ex’s 

[billsfan714]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Just gotta start investing more draft capital in the Defense I guess....

When you look at who isnt signed for next year, it is going to be more defense.

[TheBrownBear]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

They averaged like 28 points per game in the regular season with rivers 

 

They held them to  24 in his final hoorah.. the game he put it all on the line

 

They had a great line , a stud young running back running hard.. couple good tight ends ty Hilton and Michael Pittman 

 

Scoring 28 points per game in the regular season is not a bum when Patrick mahomes has scored 22 points per game The last 2 years

We have up 472 yards to the Colts in that playoff game and didn't force a turnover.  

19 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

That “Betrayal Index” pales in comparison to a few of my ex’s 

If I'm Josh, I'm keeping a close eye on Hailee. JK.

[GerstAusGosheim]

11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

But we've put out a lot of top 10 defenses that were top five in a lot of categories .. including a number one defense

 

Yep, Leslie had the #1 and #2 ranked defenses in his last two years and people were calling for his head. No surprise Seattle has a good D now.

[Goin Breakdown]

10 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

The Unicorn has to overcome… usually every game :

 

1) His crap OC designed game plan;

2) Scrubs & spare part WRs, courtesy of his GM;

3) Some goofy game calls and absurd TO stuff by his HC, who is also responsible for

4) One of the poorer HS level D in years- can’t cover, can’t tackle, can’t blitz, can’t stop 3rd & longs.

 

So, he must go full cray cray mode to overcome all, something NOBODY wants him to do- because of injury risk, but because there are no other options in 2025!

This comment will go over fine after a loss not after a win and while we are hopeful for another one tonight. You have to pick your spots when it comes to "negative" critique. 

10 hours ago, ganesh said:

Our previous defenses were in the top in "Yardage Allowed" and Turnovers.    I don't think we have ever had a strong run defense in McDermott's term.

 

We had DVOA in our side. Turnovers covered a lot of flaws. 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, billsfan714 said:

When you look at who isnt signed for next year, it is going to be more defense.

 

The brain trust at work....