bills6969 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago What are we gonna trade Keon for? A sack of potatos? 2 Quote
UConn James Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I think they were hoping that Josh could be like Tom Brady and turn chicken 💩 into chicken salad at WR. Josh did a lot with what little he was given last year, but it's definitely not the case here. Beane & McDermott thought they could give it short shrift again and spend resources in other areas for the bend and break defense. [<= I said what I said.] Beane got testy on the radio in the spring because sometimes the truth hurts. The NFL is about offense and they let it slide while turning their entire attention to defense with ZERO improvement there (actually, it's a couple-few ticks worse than last year which... is saying something. McD doubled down on his scheme of undersized & always hurt LBs / "big nickel" and now jus'about every running back is running us roughshod, not just Derrick Henry. Should they pay the price for sticking with & investing even more in an awful D scheme and wasting an entire year of Josh? IMO, yes. 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, Process said: If Gabe stays healthy I think he probably sticks. There won't be any demand for him this time so should come cheap. Gabe Palmer Shakir and Shavers as either PS or WR6 again. So yea, we'll need two new WRs including a WR1. Josh's contract escalates pretty quickly next season, and we have mediocre draft capital to use, so not sure we are going to get Chase and Higgins type players in the draft, which is what we need. Also need some pretty serious speed upgrades in the defensive backfield and some beef in the LB corps. Quote
CirclnWagons Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) I know Beane has a zero tolerance policy for receivers displaying athleticism or separation (youre welcome New England) but seeing the total lack of energy and emotion Josh has played with this year, his age and pretty new movie star wife, I cannot shake the thought that a request for a trade is in the near future. Something that gets him closer to home and finally gets him some kind of help on the outside. Beane and this organization have created the new road map to burnout of a once in a generation talent. Edited 2 hours ago by CirclnWagons 1 Quote
nuklz2594 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago shakir and palmer will be here. when the bills scout for example a wr, is our scout a former wr? stunning how we cannot get this right. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 58 minutes ago, bills6969 said: What are we gonna trade Keon for? A sack of potatos? Potatoes. Mistakes like that can really screw with a fellow's reputation! See 'Quayle, Dan'. The really gourmet ones. 😁 Quote
H2o Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago There are some interesting guys who will be in the draft. The couple guys I would really want, will be gone long before we will pick. Jordyn Tyson and Carnell Tate are those guys. You also have some intriguing prospects in David Bell from Louisville and Denzell Boston from Washington. I like Bell better of the two. He is big, runs a decent route tree, and he's got an extra gear to leave defenders in the dust. You also have Chris Brazell of Tennessee and KC Concepcion at Texas A&M. I like Concepcion, and think he will be there when we pick. He plays inside or outside and shakes defenders all the same. Even with a mid college QB, he's still putting up solid numbers in the SEC. If you have a good offensive mind who can get him in space, he's gonna do some damage. There are options this year, but it's top heavy. By round 3, most people worth drafting at the position will be gone. Not sure where Chase Roberts from BYU will fall. I think it will depend on his Combine performance, but he seems to have good spacial awareness and knows how to leverage defenders. He might be worth a 4th or 5th. 2027 is going to be the draft for WR's with Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, and Cam Coleman. Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 hours ago, Special K said: I'm assuming Palmer will be the only holdover next season. It is hard to believe a position overhaul like that would ever be needed on a team with Super Bowl aspirations that has an MVP QB. I'm not a Beane basher, he has made a lot of great picks, but the neglect of the WR position is certainly a curious decision on his part. I'd bet we will see WR's drafted next draft on the level that DL were drafted in last years draft. You are being VERY charitable! Beane failed by total neglect… deliberately, because he told us he was the smartest in EVERY room. It’s another wasted year for the greatest player the Bills have ever had! 2 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Part of me wonders if Beane refused to trade the 2026 first because he plans to swing for a rookie WR? 34 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: You are being VERY charitable! Beane failed by total neglect… deliberately, because he told us he was the smartest in EVERY room. It’s another wasted year for the greatest player the Bills have ever had! Patriots wasted 12 of Brady's 18 years... Quote
Pete Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, Special K said: I'm assuming Palmer will be the only holdover next season. It is hard to believe a position overhaul like that would ever be needed on a team with Super Bowl aspirations that has an MVP QB. I'm not a Beane basher, he has made a lot of great picks, but the neglect of the WR position is certainly a curious decision on his part. I'd bet we will see WR's drafted next draft on the level that DL were drafted in last years draft. I’d love to see Palmer and 4 new WRs Quote
Pete Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 37 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: You are being VERY charitable! Beane failed by total neglect… deliberately, because he told us he was the smartest in EVERY room. It’s another wasted year for the greatest player the Bills have ever had! Beanes legacy is going to be he had one of the all time great Quarterbacks of all time, but he too arrogant to get Josh great WRs, and failed to win a Super Bowl with Josh. Brady had Moss, Edelman, Walker, Gronk and Hernandez. Montana had Rice,Clark, Taylor. Fouts had JJ Jefferson, Joiner, Winslow. Josh has Keon and Sanders 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, UConn James said: I think they were hoping that Josh could be like Tom Brady and turn chicken 💩 into chicken salad at WR. You mean like 2016 when he had Edelman, Ex Bill Chris Hogan, and Malcolm Mitchell as his top 3 wideouts and won a super bowl. Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, Special K said: I'm assuming Palmer will be the only holdover next season. It is hard to believe a position overhaul like that would ever be needed on a team with Super Bowl aspirations that has an MVP QB. I'm not a Beane basher, he has made a lot of great picks, but the neglect of the WR position is certainly a curious decision on his part. I'd bet we will see WR's drafted next draft on the level that DL were drafted in last years draft. He hasn't neglected the WR position. Just hasn't chosen the right guys. Last season he signed Samuel for decent $ and used his 1st pick on Coleman, and this season signed Palmer for decent $. That's not neglect, if anything just bad judgement-big difference. Quote
The Jokeman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, Pete said: I’d love to see Palmer and 4 new WRs Ok armchair GM show me what other 4 WRs can add factoring in draft position and cap room that we can add that are significantly better than our current room? Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 2 hours ago, bills6969 said: What are we gonna trade Keon for? A sack of potatos? All jokes aside there are teams that had him scouted when he came out. They could view him as a guy that would do better in their system. I could see his trade value being anything from a 4th rounder at very best to a late round pick swap at very worst. 1 hour ago, CirclnWagons said: I know Beane has a zero tolerance policy for receivers displaying athleticism or separation (youre welcome New England) but seeing the total lack of energy and emotion Josh has played with this year, his age and pretty new movie star wife, I cannot shake the thought that a request for a trade is in the near future. Something that gets him closer to home and finally gets him some kind of help on the outside. Beane and this organization have created the new road map to burnout of a once in a generation talent. I don't think he requests a trade. But I do see him possibly retiring a lot earlier than most anticipate to start his post NFL life as healthy as possible. 25 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Part of me wonders if Beane refused to trade the 2026 first because he plans to swing for a rookie WR? Patriots wasted 12 of Brady's 18 years... The rumor I heard a few different places was that the 2026 first was wrapped up in Beanes offer to the Jets for Q. Williams. Quote
noacls17 Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 11 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Shakir? We hardly knew ye. Shakir is not a outside receiver Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Ok armchair GM show me what other 4 WRs can add factoring in draft position and cap room that we can add that are significantly better than our current room? I took a look at the WR FA market for next year and it's BLEAK. George Pickens and a bunch of has been and never was. If he's going to remake the WR room like we hope, he's going to have to move up a bit in the draft AND swing a major trade. Quote
The Jokeman Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I took a look at the WR FA market for next year and it's BLEAK. George Pickens and a bunch of has been and never was. If he's going to remake the WR room like we hope, he's going to have to move up a bit in the draft AND swing a major trade. You've seen rookie WR production this season right? The top two stat producers look great but the rest are well let's say not as good. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: You've seen rookie WR production this season right? The top two stat producers look great but the rest are well let's say not as good. Which is why I say they will need to move up a bit Here's what I need to see. I need them to identify a guy and go get him. None of the stuff they did a couple years ago. That's where they likely had a group of WRs they liked and would take any of them. So they traded down twice and took Coleman. Basically, they settled for whatever was leftover and we see how that ended up. Beane needs to identify his Vontae Mack and get him no matter what. Quote
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