Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[ScotSHO]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Shut down the board then. Whats the point to any of this?

 

Dont bother watching the games either, following your logic.

 

We're fans, it's a hobby. And it's a discussion board. How about contributing a real opinion other than "none of this matters, man"? 

I go to the games.  I buy my season tickets.  But it's more out of reflex at this point.  I don't blindly cheer for them anymore, almost 40 years in the NFL meat grinder has worn me down.  They win, that's great - high fives.  Lose, oh well.  Always next decade.  The athletes here today will be the enemy tomorrow (Diggs, Hollins) - it all seems trite at times.

 

I do like talking about what the coaching staff we're stuck with FOREVER can do to eek out a few more wins this season.  But that isn't what we're talking about here.

[Simon]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Ok, but Terry was given his name from the consulting firm.

 

The consulting firm was virtually irrelevant.

I could make a reasonably cogent argument that Mike Tomlin indirectly had more to do with McDermott's hire than anybody outside the Bills organization.

[nuklz2594]

in a perfect world...indiana hc cignetti.  

[Albany,n.y.]

Edited 1 hour ago by Albany,n.y.

[jaybeezee]

There is a ton of speculation that Beane doesn't really, truly run our drafts, and McD basically selects our picks. It was also rumored that Terry wanted Mahomes in 2017 and McD overuled him, so I personally believe this to some extent, seeing is how we draft heavy on defense and pretty much ignore offense in the early rounds. Then there's the speculation that they ask Josh for his input on FAs and draft prospects, so I am very confused to who really is running this team?

 Is it Sean, Brandon, Terry or Josh. I doubt  its Josh, so that leaves the other three. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

[Low Positive]

Just now, nuklz2594 said:

in a perfect world...indiana hc cignetti.  

I'm an IU grad and I'm against this. There is no quick fix like the transfer portal in the NFL. Cig is winning in Bloomington because they have bought two teams in the transfer portal with NIL money. Go Hoosiers!

[jcamm1966]

5 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

in a perfect world...indiana hc cignetti.  

Let him beat OSU first

[jaybeezee]

I know it seems like complaining on a fan board is irrelevant, and it very well could be, but I do believe that the Bills have people that go on fan sites, and social media to gauge fans temperatures and maybe if their PR people, or season ticket people, or whoever they have realize that the majority of their fan base is fed up with what we are getting from their current regime, then maybe just maybe we will be heard and changes will be made.

 

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

There is a ton of speculation that Beane doesn't really, truly run our drafts, and McD basically selects our picks. It was also rumored that Terry wanted Mahomes in 2017 and McD overuled him, so I personally believe this to some extent, seeing is how we draft heavy on defense and pretty much ignore offense in the early rounds. Then there's the speculation that they ask Josh for his input on FAs and draft prospects, so I am very confused to who really is running this team?

 Is it Sean, Brandon, Terry or Josh. I doubt  its Josh, so that leaves the other three. 

 

 

 

If that was true there would be no reason for Brandon Bean 

 

Bill belichick was openly judge jury executioner had control of everything 

 

That is not Sean McDermott's place.. McDermott might have full control of the players on the team and the coaches.. and his fingerprints are all over the team 

 

But Brandon Bean is absolutely making the selections.. there would be no point in paying him millions of dollars if he wasn't picking the people 

 

We also basically didn't have a GM when we hired McDermott.. Whaley was going to be out the door so yeah of course McDermott had a little bit more say in that draft 

 

And it was probably the best draft we've had.. but they don't hire Brandon just so McDermott can do everything 

 

Doesn't have the time to scout college players full-time enough to understand who's the gem and who's the Bust

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[RochesterLifer]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

There are  plenty ofthreads about McD and Beane. I have arguments with family and friends about both, with many of them afraid to move on, solely because they are afraid of who Terry will hire to replace them. My brother continues to ask me, who's better for HC than McD that is out there?

 

My answer is Gruden. I think if he hires a competent OC, he would be able to bring Josh back to the Josh that we all know and have seen dominate the NFL. He definitely would not give Josh the weapons he has now, and if he inherited the guys we do have now, I'm certain that he could squeeze a little bit more production out of them then this current staff is. Just his firey attitude would contribute more than this Xanax crew is giving us.

 

What HC/ GM combo do you all suggest? Realistic duos please.

 

 

You should learn from this, stop arguing, and listen more….about everything, not just football.

 

Regarding football, Gruden is a very entertaining clown show. Seek help.

[Gregg]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

If that was true there would be no reason for Brandon Bean 

 

Bill belichick was openly judge jury executioner had control of everything 

 

That is not Sean McDermott's place.. McDermott might have full control of the players on the team and the coaches.. and his fingerprints are all over the team 

 

But Brandon Bean is absolutely making the selections.. there would be no point in paying him millions of dollars if he wasn't picking the people 

 

We also basically didn't have a GM when we hired McDermott.. Whaley was going to be out the door so yeah of course McDermott had a little bit more say in that draft 

 

And it was probably the best draft we've had.. but they don't hire Brandon just so McDermott can do everything 

 

Doesn't have the time to scout college players full-time enough to understand who's the gem and who's the Bust

 

If I remember correctly Terry said that both men report to him and both have equal power. Also, why would Beane stay here to be a puppet GM. The Bills have been successful during his time here. If he were fired or resigned, then he would be unemployed for about 5 minutes before getting another GM job.

Edited 1 hour ago by Gregg

[stuvian]

I am content with the status quo up to the point where we are eliminated from post season. I still maintain that there is more right than wrong with the Bills.

 

Improving on Beane will mean raiding the likes of SF, the Rams, Eagles, Chiefs, and Seahawks. It seems like many of the other teams are always dealing where we are so tight against the cap we can't do anything. If we whiff on a few draft picks its like starting over every season. Our contract resources on defense are not well allocated as a result. Our talent evaluation is mediocre at best. Our total lack of defensive playmakers is glaring. If Coleman is a wasted pick I will be ready to close the door on Beane. 

 

I have been a McDermott backer since the beginning but the clock is ticking close to midnight on this regime. Close isn't good enough any more.

 

I suspect Terry will take a big swing if he cleans house. Something along the lines of Nick Saban, Mike McCarthy, Flores, Spagnuolo, Sarkisian, or Kiffin. BB is effectively black balled from the league if for no other reason than to deny him a shot at Shula's record.

 

I can't tell which is the real Bills - the one that lost to Miami and Atlanta or the one that beat Baltimore and KC. Let's let the season play out before burning the house down.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said:

Well, in Pegula's defense, the Rex hire was at the urging of Russ Brandon, who was more interested in marketing and shagging in the broom closet than building a quality team.

Fixed it for you.

[Kirby Jackson]

19 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

in a perfect world...indiana hc cignetti.  

He was my guy too. I think he just got $12.5M per. He has the right demeanor to lead men. He has that presence but enough swagger/arrogance to win. He’s also won at every level. Wherever that guy goes, he wins.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

If we go defensive HC, what are your thoughts on Spags?

Eh he was a horrible HC with the Rams and not much better as an interim HC with the Giants.

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, stuvian said:

I am content with the status quo up to the point where we are eliminated from post season. I still maintain that there is more right than wrong with the Bills.

 

Improving on Beane will mean raiding the likes of SF, the Rams, Eagles, Chiefs, and Seahawks. It seems like many of the other teams are always dealing where we are so tight against the cap we can't do anything. If we whiff on a few draft picks its like starting over every season. Our contract resources on defense are not well allocated as a result. Our talent evaluation is mediocre at best. Our total lack of defensive playmakers is glaring. If Coleman is a wasted pick I will be ready to close the door on Beane. 

 

I have been a McDermott backer since the beginning but the clock is ticking close to midnight on this regime. Close isn't good enough any more.

 

I suspect Terry will take a big swing if he cleans house. Something along the lines of Nick Saban, Mike McCarthy, Flores, Spagnuolo, Sarkisian, or Kiffin. BB is effectively black balled from the league if for no other reason than to deny him a shot at Shula's record.

 

I can't tell which is the real Bills - the one that lost to Miami and Atlanta or the one that beat Baltimore and KC. Let's let the season play out before burning the house down.

Some people just want to watch the world burn Master Bruce.

[jaybeezee]

4 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

You should learn from this, stop arguing, and listen more….about everything, not just football.

 

Regarding football, Gruden is a very entertaining clown show. Seek help.

Let's not act like Gruden is Chan Gailey now! I mentioned him as someone I at least know who is available,  who has had success. I asked the question about who else is out there? Not someone we would have to trade valuable assets for, although I would for Reid, McVay.

 

Mcdermott is the equivalent of Tom Thibodeu of the Knicks. He came in, changed the culture of the club, made the Knicks competitive and semi contenders but could never take any of his squads to the big dance. He had a prime Dwrrick Rose with the Bulls and squandered his career.

 

I just dont want to see this with Josh and its becoming more and more obvious to most that this is what's happening here.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

I go to the games.  I buy my season tickets.  But it's more out of reflex at this point.  I don't blindly cheer for them anymore, almost 40 years in the NFL meat grinder has worn me down.  They win, that's great - high fives.  Lose, oh well.  Always next decade.  The athletes here today will be the enemy tomorrow (Diggs, Hollins) - it all seems trite at times.

 

I do like talking about what the coaching staff we're stuck with FOREVER can do to eek out a few more wins this season.  But that isn't what we're talking about here.

 

There's a thread here for everyone, or you can start your own. Not required to post in the ones you dont like. Good luck!

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Let's not act like Gruden is Chan Gailey now!

 

Agreed.

At the top of their respective games, Chan Gailey was a much better football coach.

[The Jokeman]

23 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

There is a ton of speculation that Beane doesn't really, truly run our drafts, and McD basically selects our picks. It was also rumored that Terry wanted Mahomes in 2017 and McD overuled him, so I personally believe this to some extent, seeing is how we draft heavy on defense and pretty much ignore offense in the early rounds. Then there's the speculation that they ask Josh for his input on FAs and draft prospects, so I am very confused to who really is running this team?

 Is it Sean, Brandon, Terry or Josh. I doubt  its Josh, so that leaves the other three. 

 

 

 

Mahomes benefitted being drafted by a 12-4 team, sit behind Alex Smith as he lead them to another AFC West title at 9-6 under Smith and 1-O under Patrick. He likely doesn't get those chances here. Mahomes a great player no doubt but also ended up in a great situation in KC. I doubt he does the same in Chicago (see they don't draft Mitch) or here.

Just now, Simon said:

 

Agreed.

At the top of their respective games, Chan Gailey was a much better football coach.

Gailey had a pretty good offense lead by a 7th Round QB, 7th WR and undrafted RB. Gotta wonder what if had he kept Lynch and we draft Dez Bryant instead of Spiller how good we'd be.