Bills workout DE's Jonathan and Toohill - cut Ciarlo and Wilkerson from PS

[BillsFanForever19]

I'm sure this will get torched by Bills fans who are still upset we did nothing at the Deadline and were Ciarlo fans. But news nonetheless.

 

Not surprised to see players cut from the Practice Squad to make room for others coming in. Kind of surprised to see Ciarlo and Wilkerson are the ones to be let go. Very frustrating that they chose to keep Spector over Ciarlo.

 

Alas, this means we have 1 Active Roster spot (with Hoecht's IR) and 2 Practice Squad spots open. So 3 players will be coming in to the building.

Edited 3 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[ROCBillsBeliever]

3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I'm sure this will get torched by Bills fans who are still upset we did nothing at the Deadline and were Ciarlo fans. But news nonetheless.

 

Not surprised to see players cut from the Practice Squad to make room for others coming in. Kind of surprised to see Ciarlo and Wilkerson are the ones to be let go.

 

Indy: Takes out multiple credit cards to buy bottled water at The Bellaggio.

 

Buffalo: We found this really cool yard sale in North Elmira... Hear me out!

 

 

 

[BlueRed]

I’m a little surprised about Ciarlo’s cut. A few weeks ago they added him to the active roster over Keonta Jenkins (who they already elevated 3 times), but returned him quickly back to the practice squad. 
I agree that this must mean he has fallen behind Spector and Keonta Jenkins in the pecking order. 

[WotAGuy]

Beane trying to win us back with some slick practice squad signing. I’m all in!!

[Warriorspikes51]

Choosing Culture / they know our process and are “yes men”…. or whatever it is over talent is holding this team back 

[Shortchaz]

6 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

Indy: Takes out multiple credit cards to buy bottled water at The Bellaggio.

 

Buffalo: We found this really cool yard sale in North Elmira... Hear me out!

 

 

 

Let’s not belittle yard sales….in Elmira 👀

[RichRiderBills]

I think both Johnathan and Toohill are good players. I'm surprised they are not on teams. 

 

They are certainly not tier 1 guys, but worthy depth. 

[Ralonzo]

Ex-Bills return to OBD as predictably as Jason Voorhees to Crystal Lake this time of year.

[MiltonWaddams]

3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

Ex-Bills return to OBD as predictably as Jason Voorhees to Crystal Lake this time of year.

Kingsley Jonathan bringing out his old helmet

Edited 3 hours ago by MiltonWaddams

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

I think both Johnathan and Toohill are good players. I'm surprised they are not on teams. 

 

They are certainly not tier 1 guys, but worthy depth. 

 

And have spent time in the Defense (especially Kingsley) - so there shouldn't be too much transition in learning what McDermott expects of them and getting the Defense down. Which is why they probably brought them in. It's getting late into the season for bringing guys in cold on that side of the ball.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Fast & Furious 12: Back to Buffalo.

Everyone’s back. It’s all about family.

[Cubanmist 1]

13 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I think both Johnathan and Toohill are good players. I'm surprised they are not on teams. 

 

They are certainly not tier 1 guys, but worthy depth. 

Fans were not looking for Hoechts replacement to be role players. Rather, we are looking for comparable to at the least half as good as Hoecht. Beane should be on the hot seat after this. Why can’t he be more like the GM in Philly?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I am still waiting for Eli Ankou!! I guarantee he will be starting for us in the AFCCG! 

[Big Turk]

[RichRiderBills]

1 minute ago, Cubanmist 1 said:

Fans were not looking for Hoechts replacement to be role players. Rather, we are looking for comparable to at the least half as good as Hoecht. Beane should be on the hot seat after this. Why can’t he be more like the GM in Philly?

 

Let's pause a minute to give Beane credit: Hoecht was a role player in LA. He was signed for role player type bucks. Modest dollars.

 

The team also just beat the Chiefs. We've got TJ Sanders, Shaq Thompson,  Daquan Jones and Josh Palmer all returning. Hairston and Bishop are emerging. The offenses IS NOT some broken wagon. All will be fine.

 

Will we win SB? I'm not sure....but I'm fine with the non move here. 

 

The whole notion of making moves at the deadline to propel a team to SB glory has occured like 1-2 times in NFL history. Its BAD GM'ing to vest so much in deadline moves.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

34 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

Indy: Takes out multiple credit cards to buy bottled water at The Bellaggio.

 

Buffalo: We found this really cool yard sale in North Elmira... Hear me out!

 

 

 

LMAO, North Elmira must be Elmira heights 

[BillsFanForever19]

28 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Let's pause a minute to give Beane credit: Hoecht was a role player in LA. He was signed for role player type bucks. Modest dollars.

 

The team also just beat the Chiefs. We've got TJ Sanders, Shaq Thompson,  Daquan Jones and Josh Palmer all returning. Hairston and Bishop are emerging. The offenses IS NOT some broken wagon. All will be fine.

 

Will we win SB? I'm not sure....but I'm fine with the non move here. 

 

The whole notion of making moves at the deadline to propel a team to SB glory has occured like 1-2 times in NFL history. Its BAD GM'ing to vest so much in deadline moves.  

 

Mentioned this in another thread - but the shape we're in after this season definitely was a major factor in being hesitant to move picks for players.

 

As usual, we're in rough shape cap wise. While we could come up with more money, it's still only going to go so far with all we have to do and freeing that space would add to the number of bodies we'd have to replace.

 

We have *TWENTY ONE* players currently on our 53 man roster that we'll have to either re-sign or replace with limited money and just 7 Draft Picks - including 9 starters and key ones like 2/5 of our OL and our best Pass Rusher. The list includes:

 

Unrestricted Free Agents:

 

- DE Joey Bosa

- C Connor McGovern

- G David Edwards

- LB Matt Milano

- DT Daquan Jones

- DE AJ Epenesa

- CB Tre'Davious White

- LB Shaq Thompson 

- FB Reggie Gilliam

- DT Larry Ogunjobi

- WR Elijah Moore

- QB Mitch Trubisky

- CB Cam Lewis

- S Jordan Poyer

- S Damar Hamlin

- S Sam Franklin Jr.

- DT Jordan Phillips

- K Matt Prater

- P Mitch Wishnowsky

- P Cameron Johnston

 

Restricted and Exclusive RIghts Free Agents:

 

- G Alec Anderson

- OT Ryan Van Demark

- CB Ja'Marcus Ingram

 

And again, that's not taking into account players that we'll most likely move on from to free up space like Taylor Rapp, Curtis Samuel, and Dawson Knox. The number grows to 23 players currently on our 53 with that.

 

You can say "who cares, let most of those guys walk". But we'd still need to replace them on the 53 with limited cap and just 7 Draft Picks (as we made traded away no one and won't have any comps).

 

All this to say, we weren't in a position to willy nilly trade away Draft Picks or take on large amounts of money in 2026. Which complicated things.

 

It's definitely fair to argue Beane shouldn't have put us in this position to where things were this complicated - but it doesn't change the position we're in.

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Lost]

Can't spell Shaheed without Toohill..

[IYKYK]

46 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

And have spent time in the Defense (especially Kingsley) - so there shouldn't be too much transition in learning what McDermott expects of them and getting the Defense down. Which is why they probably brought them in. It's getting late into the season for bringing guys in cold on that side of the ball.

What shape are they in? Knowing McDermott he won’t let them play for the next 8 weeks.

[Blank Stare]

That’ll show the league. 🙄
 

Seriously, step out of your damn comfort zone for once Beane. Last time you did that, I recall you acquired a pretty damn good WR. But we’re all just “bitchin about something” if we want something that luxurious. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Blank Stare