Game week thread - Chiefs at Bills

[dollars 2 donuts]

7 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

That's the parity of the NFL. NE is playing a 4th place schedule, and their record shows it (not to say that aren't good (they are), but they also benefit from a very, very light schedule).

 

 

Johnny, after they beat us I put out there is anybody looking at their schedule?  They may only have a couple of losses for the rest of the entire year.

 

They are playing well and their schedule is sweet.

 

...which is what we thought we had.

 

 

[zow2]

I think the Bills D is going to make some plays, but KC will still score in the low-mid 20's.    If the Bills D holds KC in the teens i will be pleasantly surprised.

 

Buffalo's offense is more concerning to me.  The Chiefs will not allow Cook to go crazy.  They have a very solid D across the board.  Allen has to break out of whatever slumber or lack of confidence that is plaguing him.  He will have some open receivers TE's and RBs.   He needs to release the ball quicker or take off and run sooner.  His eyes have become sloooooow when he's going through his progressions.

[MiltonWaddams]

5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

we are going to smoke these guys. Bills will win by 10+

 

and everyone nationally will do the "yeah but" thing, which means nothing right now because there is no guarantee we even play them in the playoffs. 

 

 

I would love to see this. A complete annihilation. But…what gives you the confidence in the offense to see that happening aside from Jimbo? I love Shakir and Kincaid, when healthy, is a great mismatch opportunity, but it starts and ends there over the last 5 games. The defense may be rounding into form, but Spags has a healthy group and they are going to come in firing.

[BearNorth]

10 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

That's the parity of the NFL. NE is playing a 4th place schedule, and their record shows it (not to say that aren't good (they are), but they also benefit from a very, very light schedule).

Right now, the Bills have played the second easiest schedule and have the third easiest remaining schedule.  The Patriots have played the easiest schedule and have the easiest remaining schedule. The Bills loss to Atlanta was a complete coaching failure.

[Boatdrinks]

22 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

True, but what many are suggesting is that we play the same boring, contain the QB defense, that we've played repeatedly with poor results. The difference between KC and Buffalo is an ability to adapt and change. Buffalo has a real problem with this.

 

I'm thinking that all of these recent additions to our defense is going to be a serious problem for KC. Our defense has been transformed and the coach needs to cut them loose. KC won't know what hit them.

Wouldn't exactly call it a heater. More like, ok, they're not dead yet...lol.

I disagree. The difference between KC and the Bills today ( besides the coaching staff) is just better players. In the recent past that wasn’t the case, but a few seasons of sub par draft results and players aging out has gotten them to this point. The Bills have Allen and Cook plus a good OL. Not much else. The defense is probably the worst version of itself since Allen became a top QB. Allen himself hasn’t been playing well. 

[ngbills]

50 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

People who are saying the team that loses this game will miss the playoffs are not paying attention to the rest of the AFC. It’s bad. Bills and KC will be there at the end regardless of this Sunday’s outcome. 

Disagree. The AFC is much tougher this year in terms of wild card. There very likely will be a 10-11 win team left out of the playoffs. There are so many bottom dwellers that the wild card is going to be a battle. IND has the south locked. PIT may have a battle with BAL with Jackson coming back for the north. The east is all NE and BUF but NE is winning at least 11 games with that schedule. The west you likely have 3 teams winning 10-11 with KC, DEN, SD. So its gonna come down to 3 spots for these 4-5 teams: NE/BUF division loser, KC/SD/DEN division losers, PIT/BAL division loser and then throw in a JAX. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

Doesn’t matter. They’ll still be in the playoffs. 

and you know this because...you're psychic?

[boater]

The KC game is the time where in fairness we can be judgmental of Beane.

 

He dedicated the draft and free agency to build a DL to pressure Mahomes. That was his baby. His DL creation is almost fully intact and ready to go, will they be successful Sunday? Michael Hoecht, and Larry Ogunjobi had a great game in Carolina, I think that will continue.

 

Also, I don't think the Bills want a repeat of someone taking it to them in their own house again. That's just a hunch I have.

 

 

 

 

[ngbills]

8 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Johnny, after they beat us I put out there is anybody looking at their schedule?  They may only have a couple of losses for the rest of the entire year.

 

They are playing well and their schedule is sweet.

 

...which is what we thought we had.

 

 

Can only hope for some bad losses. BUF, TB and possibly BAL are games on paper they many not be favored. The others are Jets twice, MIA, ATL, CIN, NYG...

[Metal Man]

17 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

That's the parity of the NFL. NE is playing a 4th place schedule, and their record shows it (not to say that aren't good (they are), but they also benefit from a very, very light schedule).

 

The 4th place schedule thing is a little overblown to me. It is only a difference of 3 games.

They have Raiders, Titans, Giants while Bills have Chiefs, Texans, Eagles.... everything else is the same.

 

I realize 3 games can make a difference in a divisional race but we have to wait until all those games are played to see if it was what made the real difference.

 

Right now they are 1-1 with the Giants still to come while the Bills play their first this weekend.

[finn]

12 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I think the Bills D is going to make some plays, but KC will still score in the low-mid 20's.    If the Bills D holds KC in the teens i will be pleasantly surprised.

 

Buffalo's offense is more concerning to me.  The Chiefs will not allow Cook to go crazy.  They have a very solid D across the board.  Allen has to break out of whatever slumber or lack of confidence that is plaguing him.  He will have some open receivers TE's and RBs.   He needs to release the ball quicker or take off and run sooner.  His eyes have become sloooooow when he's going through his progressions.

My theory is both he and Benford are suffering from the aftereffects of concussion. At that level, a little brain fog makes a huge impact. 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, boater said:

The KC game is the time where in fairness we can be judgmental of Beane.

 

He dedicated the draft and free agency to build a DL to pressure Mahomes. That was his baby. His DL creation is almost fully intact and ready to go, will they be successful Sunday? Michael Hoecht, and Larry Ogunjobi had a great game in Carolina, I think that will continue.

 

Also, I don't think the Bills want a repeat of someone taking it to them in their own house again. That's just a hunch I have.

 

 

 

 

Fully intact? without Ed O or TJ Sanders? Yeah I agree to disagree that the DL is close to be fully intact. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Can only hope for some bad losses. BUF, TB and possibly BAL are games on paper they many not be favored. The others are Jets twice, MIA, ATL, CIN, NYG...

 

ng, I was holding out hope for the Giants against them, but then...

 

Nabors going down and then followed by Skittlebo?!

 

Yeah, that one is now too much to hope for.

 

 

[5ths the charm]

59 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Ways the Bills can win this game:

- Hairston is ready to play and has a good game.
- Defensive Ends put pressure on Mahomes and contain him. Do not let him get out of the pocket, I don't care if we get zero sacks. The pocket needs to collapse into him.
- Running game is working for us.
- No big errors (e.g. turnover in our own redzone, big PR/KR allowed, etc).

That's it, I think we win if we can do those things.

If you heard Troy said it 3 times last night, you can't beat KC with a Zone defense.  You have to have man to man with aggressive pass rush.  Uh-Oh  

[90sBills]

13 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

and you know this because...you're psychic?

Because I pay attention to what’s going on in the league. 

[TheFunPolice]

I think your 3 wildcards will be 2 teams from the West and one from the East. 

 

Jags will battle with whoever the 3rd AFC West team is and maybe the 2nd place North team for the 7th spot. 

 

As of today, I predict: 

 

AFC East Winner: Bills (sorry, I know Drake Maye is already the next Brady or better but I don't buy it yet)

AFC North Winner: Steelers (I am moving away from the Bengals because of that horrific defense. It's all time bad.) 

AFC West Winner: Broncos. (They are really good I think)

AFC South Winner: Colts (they could be a real threat. Solid on the lines, good QB play, solid coaching. That's reproducible) 

 

Wildcards: Chiefs (5 seed), Patriots (6 seed), Chargers (7 seed) 

 

In the hunt: Jaguars, Ravens, maybe Bengals because with Burrow they can score on every drive so they have a shot in any game

 

Don't forget there are a lot of "we win either way" games coming up:

 

Patriots/Bengals and Patriots/Ravens: either the Patriots put those teams down for good or those teams get the Patriots some more losses, putting us in control of the division if we win there

 

Ravens play both the Bengals and Steelers twice still, so there's a lot of AFC North losses to go round there and keep the team that doesn't win that division out of the Wild Card. Bengals or Ravens will knock the other team out. 

 

Bonus: Lots of people were bummed the Eagles game was so late... It wouldn't mean anything. 

 

Well, it is almost 100% certain to mean a ton to both the Eagles and the Bills, given the Lions and Packers record and level of play and the crazy AFC race. 

 

Finally, the red helmet game. It could very well be win and we win the East, lose and we play as a wildcard. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by TheFunPolice

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, 90sBills said:

Because I pay attention to what’s going on in the league. 

The the Chiefs are 3rd in the AFC West and only hold that spot because the Jaguars had a bye week and had they played and won they'd hold it? Or the Chiefs have a 2-2 Conference record which is the worst of those teams in the playoffs now? I won't doubt the Chiefs have been good these last 3 weeks but if the Bills do beat them this weekend it's going to hurt their chances quite a bit. Granted Denver's lost Surtain for a spell which may make their games against them coming up easier but Chiefs got hurt last night with Bolton and Pachecho going down too. 

[Koufax]

Very excited for Sunday, but there is no game in 2025 that really actually matters. Our job is to get to January healthy, peaking, and ideally with as high a seed as possible. They will need to hype this game for ratings, but we aren't on top of the world if we win it, and we aren't ruined if we don't.

 

We are good enough to focus on going 1-0 each week, and playing good football and not worrying about the details beyond that. Good prep game to see what our defense can do and not always hope Josh can 38-35 these guys, but everybody get ready for way more reaction/over-reaction to whichever outcome happens than this game deserves.

[90sBills]

15 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Disagree. The AFC is much tougher this year in terms of wild card. There very likely will be a 10-11 win team left out of the playoffs. There are so many bottom dwellers that the wild card is going to be a battle. IND has the south locked. PIT may have a battle with BAL with Jackson coming back for the north. The east is all NE and BUF but NE is winning at least 11 games with that schedule. The west you likely have 3 teams winning 10-11 with KC, DEN, SD. So its gonna come down to 3 spots for these 4-5 teams: NE/BUF division loser, KC/SD/DEN division losers, PIT/BAL division loser and then throw in a JAX. 

In order for KC to be out of the playoffs you’d have to count on Baltimore coming back and Pitt retreating, but not too much. Then you’d have to count on Jax to outperform KC the rest of the way. I’d take my chances with KC in that scenario.

 

How I see it for the AFC playoffs…

 

Buf and NE in the East

Pitt (or Balt but not both) in the North

Indy in the South

KC, Chargers, Den in the West

 

The only solid detriment for KC losing this Sunday would be out of contention for the #1 seed. If they win this Sunday that’s still in play, no matter how slim. 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

why are there so many people saying games don't matter in the regular season? lol even if Superbowl or bust are your expectations, you can't get there if you miss the playoffs 😑. Huge game, always competitive.. should be fun