Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?

[Capco]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Agreed. But if teams have absolutely zero fear of it from a multiple standpoint of both Josh not being great at it and no one getting open - things remain the same. They'll continue to crowd the line of scrimmage, key in on Cook, send Safeties, and make life incredibly difficult in the short to intermediate areas.

 

Josh has to work on it. He may never be great at it. But if we can get someone with deep speed and separation, they have to at least respect it. Even if he only hits it once in a while.

While I don't think you're wrong about how speed would help open up the short and intermediate areas, I do think intentionally calling those deep routes and taking low-percentage shots with what we already have at WR would also help keep defenses off balance.  

The Bills need to be aggressive and assertive with these calls.  Literally telegraph your intention to attack deep (even in pre-game pressers).  Don't ever underestimate how quickly NFL defensive coordinators will start to play conservatively just to stop the threat of the big play.  

Then combine that with your offensive line and running game prowess, and mix in some play action passes with at least one deep route.   Get the defense thinking "gotta defend deep... but wait, also gotta defend the run.  Crap, they're running.  *runs to LOS* OH NOOOO IT'S PLAY ACTION AND KINCAID IS BEHIND ME IN THE MIDDLE IDK WHAT'S EVEN HAPPENINGGGG!"

[Big Turk]

13 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

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!) We can't afford his contract right now

2) Dolphins are not trading him even if they do rebuild, him and Achane would remain the centerpieces of their offense, why would you get rid of 2 studs in their prime?

[dollars 2 donuts]

On 10/14/2025 at 8:35 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

Tired - The Bills need a number 1 WR. Wired - The Bills need a number 1 and a number 2 WR

 

Some other names that could fill one of the spots Jakobi Meyers, Kendrick Bourne, DJ Moore, JaJuan Jennings

 

 

Ya know what's weird Kirby, we used to have a really good wide receiver who everyone thought was gassed even though he has 86 receptions in the 15 games he has played since leaving here, which he was cut loose due to the advent of the love and orgasms over "everybody eats" when getting him a competent #2 WR probably would have helped things out tremendously.

 

...but any-who!

 

 

[Nihilarian]

Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays.

 

When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep?

 

We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. 

 

Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality

[Dick_Cheney]

4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays.

 

When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep?

 

We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. 

 

Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality

 

Strong disagree. 

 

Once they realize it was a fluke and he isn't able to connect like that for the rest of the game going forward, it's over. 

 

Statistically speaking, even these dog water receivers we have will connect on a deep play here and there. We are absolutely hosed if Beane doesn't find a way to bring in a WR better than the ones we currently have. It sucks, but that's just the reality. Josh knows the quality of the receiving corps he is working with and it's clear that it's impacting him psychologically. 

 

If the offense sputters to start the game this week, don't be suprised if we see the wheels come off even more catastrophically than the Atlanta game. 

[BillsShredder83]

22 hours ago, Pete said:

Do the names John Brown, Robert Foster mean nothing to you?  Does 98 yards ring a bell?   I’ve watched Josh’s movie- he made some incredible deep throws.
 

 Josh has the best arm in the NFL.  Take off the training wheels Brady, get us Shaheed, Beane. Chop-chop

 

once all the above is completed, Bills will have top offense again

Jon Brown + Josh was so lethal for the intermediate stuff. 20-25 yard chunk plays that got msde with the ease of a 5yd completion. Yes! 

 

The deep stuff is cherry on top. We'll need to hit a few to get the full respect... but its a guarantee to back defenders away from the line,as well

As have to defend to the sidelines, not just between the hashes.

 

 

The synergistic effect it would have is immeasurable and plays into the best talents we have on the team.

 

-cooks life easier, and more productive in run game.

 

-cook in space more on his receptions, always a threat for house call

 

-Shakir could start seeing REALLLLL volume. We need a volume guy desperately. That was our "run game" aka chain mover in 2021.

 

-Kincaid sees a much less crowded route tree

[ScotSHO]

It's becoming obvious the brass aren't going to mortgage the future for a quick fix this season.  What you see is what you get.

[quincy]

My left field thought is Rashod Bateman. 

 

I am unsure whether he is a plausable number one, the three things that I like the most is that he is 25, he has been extended by Baltimore (three years $36.75M) and the Ravens might considering trading him at 1 and 5.

 

I haven't looked into the deeper mathematics of it all.

 

An article by ESPN states;

 

Bateman, 25, has gone from being an underachieving 2021 first-round pick to the best deep threat for the NFL's No. 1 offense in 2024. He was the only player in the NFL last season to average over 16 yards per reception and catch at least nine touchdown passes.

 

Source: Ravens give WR Rashod Bateman 3-year, $36.75M extension

 

A 40 yard dash time of 4.41.  

 

  

[ngbills]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

!) We can't afford his contract right now

2) Dolphins are not trading him even if they do rebuild, him and Achane would remain the centerpieces of their offense, why would you get rid of 2 studs in their prime?

His contract is manageable this year and next. Worry about 2027 later. 

[26TrapDraw]

On 10/14/2025 at 5:45 AM, fitzMASTERchief said:

 

Serious question...I wonder how many folks would become 49er fans?

not sure but i would immediately not be a Bills fan any longer

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, ngbills said:

His contract is manageable this year and next. Worry about 2027 later. 

 

#2 means we wouldn't need to worry about it because he isn't for sale, especially not to a division rival.

[BillsShredder83]

33 minutes ago, quincy said:

My left field thought is Rashod Bateman. 

 

I am unsure whether he is a plausable number one, the three things that I like the most is that he is 25, he has been extended by Baltimore (three years $36.75M) and the Ravens might considering trading him at 1 and 5.

 

I haven't looked into the deeper mathematics of it all.

 

An article by ESPN states;

 

Bateman, 25, has gone from being an underachieving 2021 first-round pick to the best deep threat for the NFL's No. 1 offense in 2024. He was the only player in the NFL last season to average over 16 yards per reception and catch at least nine touchdown passes.

 

Source: Ravens give WR Rashod Bateman 3-year, $36.75M extension

 

A 40 yard dash time of 4.41.  

 

  

9 TD's is a real anomaly as every other season he had only 1 or 2.  The rest of his stats look that way too.  Doesnt mean im out on him.  Wonder wtf was so different last year than every other year? Huge deviation... like astronomical.  LOL was it only because he was fighting for contract, cause it wouldnt shock me and what a lazy bag of **** hahah  

[ScotSHO]

On 10/14/2025 at 8:33 AM, boyst said:

If we lose to the Panthers the only trade I want to see is with SF. Josh Allen for a 1st. Let him go with a competent organization.

 

But back to your premise if we get Olave I want another WR, too.

 

Ridley and Olave - sending Samuel or Davis or someone else young would be fine - is what i would take.

I'm starting to really like Ty Simpson's game at Alabama.  I think he'll be the next Brady and I could be talked into a trade for a couple of 1st round picks from a bottom feeder org.  Even the Jets & Dolphins would be a consideration.  Reset the 4-5 year window with a true pocket passer that won't consistently pass up open receivers in crunch time (see the last offensive plays from 2024 (Shakir) and 2023 (Diggs)).

 

For all of Josh's strengths, he gets tunnel vision at the wrong times.

[DCOrange]

3 hours ago, quincy said:

My left field thought is Rashod Bateman. 

 

I am unsure whether he is a plausable number one, the three things that I like the most is that he is 25, he has been extended by Baltimore (three years $36.75M) and the Ravens might considering trading him at 1 and 5.

 

I haven't looked into the deeper mathematics of it all.

 

An article by ESPN states;

 

Bateman, 25, has gone from being an underachieving 2021 first-round pick to the best deep threat for the NFL's No. 1 offense in 2024. He was the only player in the NFL last season to average over 16 yards per reception and catch at least nine touchdown passes.

 

Source: Ravens give WR Rashod Bateman 3-year, $36.75M extension

 

A 40 yard dash time of 4.41.  

 

  

I would gladly take him if Baltimore is really considering it but I'm skeptical that's the case. I do think Bateman is pretty good though and would likely be our best WR.

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

It's becoming obvious the brass aren't going to mortgage the future for a quick fix this season.  What you see is what you get.

Just wondering why this has become obvious?  Beane has made trades to fix his holes the last 2 seasons.  What has happened this year to convince you of this?

 

I can answer this for you:  Ingrained negativity and hatred for the GM has

3 hours ago, 26TrapDraw said:

not sure but i would immediately not be a Bills fan any longer

Luckily you don’t have to worry about it because this trading Josh talk is just so insane

2 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

I'm starting to really like Ty Simpson's game at Alabama.  I think he'll be the next Brady and I could be talked into a trade for a couple of 1st round picks from a bottom feeder org.  Even the Jets & Dolphins would be a consideration.  Reset the 4-5 year window with a true pocket passer that won't consistently pass up open receivers in crunch time (see the last offensive plays from 2024 (Shakir) and 2023 (Diggs)).

 

For all of Josh's strengths, he gets tunnel vision at the wrong times.

Ty Simpson is the next Tom Brady….. got it.  

Edited 16 hours ago by NewEra

[3rdand12]

8 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays.

 

When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep?

 

We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. 

 

Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality

You only have to hit on one , and the Game has changed.

Now you know you can hit one

 and

The defense knows you can too.

 

its been this simple forever

 Hey Joe ! Just hit one. Try it Joey , you'll like it !

8 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

 

Strong disagree. 

 

Once they realize it was a fluke and he isn't able to connect like that for the rest of the game going forward, it's over. 

 

Statistically speaking, even these dog water receivers we have will connect on a deep play here and there. We are absolutely hosed if Beane doesn't find a way to bring in a WR better than the ones we currently have. It sucks, but that's just the reality. Josh knows the quality of the receiving corps he is working with and it's clear that it's impacting him psychologically. 

 

If the offense sputters to start the game this week, don't be suprised if we see the wheels come off even more catastrophically than the Atlanta game. 

I disagree with your disagree

Good

 Stack the Box. We are running another go route off a hot read and lofting it for run and catch HA Ha

 never give up on the "run deep and fast routes"

[finn]

19 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

!) We can't afford his contract right now

2) Dolphins are not trading him even if they do rebuild, him and Achane would remain the centerpieces of their offense, why would you get rid of 2 studs in their prime?

Good questions, but "good" doesn't mean they don't have answers. The defense has so many problems, the only chance to go all the way is to supercharge the offense, and that means Waddle, and that means making the Fish an offer they can't refuse, such as our first pick in 2026 and 2027, along with extras. I'm not a cap guy, but Beane surely make it happen, especially with Allen willing to do anything to win. 

 

Get Waddle and win the Super Bowl. Settle for another mediocrity, and you'll get mediocrity. 

[oldmanfan]

18 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays.

 

When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep?

 

We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. 

 

Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality

The last time?  Palmer in the opening drive the last game they played.

[quincy]

14 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

9 TD's is a real anomaly as every other season he had only 1 or 2.  The rest of his stats look that way too.  Doesnt mean im out on him.  Wonder wtf was so different last year than every other year? Huge deviation... like astronomical.  LOL was it only because he was fighting for contract, cause it wouldnt shock me and what a lazy bag of **** hahah  

 

That is true, at least his best season was last season. Has a light come on and his game ascended or is it just a blip in a contract year as you say?  

 

12 hours ago, DCOrange said:

I would gladly take him if Baltimore is really considering it but I'm skeptical that's the case. I do think Bateman is pretty good though and would likely be our best WR.

 

I believe that Lamar is on the verge of returning, so it is true that it is unlikely he is available. I was just trying to propose someone who isn't Shaheed or Olave.

 

The "problem" is that there are maybe only 6 teams as of now that have, in my opinion, no shot at winning their division.

 

Dolphins and Jets, you would assume any trades are a non-starter. Raiders and Cardinals, Gannon is looking to hang on and Carroll is like 74 and I'd assume he thinks that they still have a shot - he looks physically great but does he conceded the season and rebuild?

 

Leaving the Titans and the Saints, the teams with zero chance. Titans should try and keep some pieces around Ward and the Saints play well in patches whilst only having 1 win. We got to have the faith that Beane is trying to do something as we have only 4 healthy WR right now, Samuel is always banged up and is never in good health.