Tired of "everyone eats".

[nuklz2594]

Run the the "k gun". Josh can handle this

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, nuklz2594 said:

Run the the "k gun". Josh can handle this

Ironically enough when the Kgun was at it's best in 1991 it averaged 28.6 points per game which is exactly we're averaging this season. 

[Kirby Jackson]

The Bills have scored lots of points DESPITE their lack of pass catching weapons not BECAUSE of everybody eats. Josh Allen is the reason that they have an elite offense. The TEs, OL and James Cook are also excellent allowing the team to stay on schedule.
 

They score a lot of points. They may have the worst WRs in the NFL (certainly bottom 5). Both of those things can be true at the same time. That’s the case here. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[BillytheKid]

I don’t have any problem with everyone eats. I think it makes the offense a lot better if it is run correctly.

 

The problem is Joe Brady has handcuffed Allen more than anything and he wants this to be a run first offense by his play calls. So he is holding Josh back. The team has looked flat the entire season except for the 4th quarter  against the Ravens and the Jets game. 
 

At some point I have to consider maybe they aren’t just flat but they aren’t as good as I was expecting them to be. Unless they improve I don’t see anything as of yet that leads me to believe they will win a Super Bowl this year. 
 

They need to pull their head out of their rear ends and start playing up to their capabilities along with the coaching to quit holding the offense back. Just my opinion. Watching the offense has become frustrating though and the defense is even worse.  Yet they are still 4-1. 
 

 

 

[RobbRiddick]

I'm tired of it until we score lots of points and win the game, then it feels much better than it did before.

[26TrapDraw]

1 hour ago, Fleezoid said:

What if there's only enough food for one person. I'd be pretty pissed if I had to split a 12 oz steak with 5 other people. 

That’s right I’m 100 percent Italian and at my house everyone eats!

a lot.

[RobbRiddick]

We had an everyone eats philosophy in my family but my wife refused to follow the process

 

 

[hondo in seattle]

"Everyone eats" is about making lemonade with lemons.  It's what you default to when you don't have a dawg.  

 

But it's also the motto of a culture that stresses teamwork and team success over individual accomplishments.  In that sense, I love it.   

[Figster]

The everyone eats O gave James Cook the overall lowest number of touches (pass and run) so far this season at 15 vs Pats. For the sake of getting other, less talented RB's more involved in the game. Media induced?  Brady was just questioned about getting our other RB's more involved.

 

Awwww come on man!

 

You don't have elite standing on the sidelines so everyone gets to eat.

 

It loses football games...

Edited 1 hour ago by Figster

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, YodaMan79 said:

The whole “everybody eats” approach might sound like balance, but it’s really the football version of saying you’ve got two starting quarterbacks.  It's a diplomatic way of admitting you don’t have one true game-changer. I don’t want to hear it anymore.

 

When the commentators talked about it on Sunday night like it was a good thing, I completely lost it. Either the organization is lying to itself, or they think we as a fan base are clueless. Consider this my therapeutic vent, a realization that the front office is failing this roster and its fans.  Like the Eagles, this team could easily be 3-2, 2-3. They just don't pass the eye test. 

 

On the bright side, no one team looks unbeatable this year. I’d say maybe 4–6 teams have a real shot to win it all.  So, why not the Bills!?!?

 

So our offense that before Sunday had an NFL record for consecutive games not losing the turnover battle, Josh was at 33 TD's - 2 Turnovers in his previous 13 games, we were the highest scoring team in the AFC since "Everybody Eats" became a thing, scored more total points than any team in the NFL last year, including KC and PHI who each played one more game than us with the SB and after we sat the offense in week 17, and we saw our QB, Shakir, etc also set individual records in that span as well, including winning Josh his first MVP who personally set several records in that span.

 

But we are out here complaining about an offense that has been the highest scoring offense in Bills history, the AFC this year, the AFC regular season last year, the AFC post season last year - instead of a defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down, that gave up 32 points in the AFCCG to a team that didn't break 30 the entire season outside that one game and was down 31-0 at one point the following week after hanging 32 on us, and a defense that has given up 35 PPG to the chiefs in our 4 playoff losses to them?  

 

I don't know what this Bills syndrome is called where people don't like scoring unless we score the way they want to score, but its wild to me.  Meanwhile, our D is having issues right now and not playing well enough to make up for the rare instance when Allen and the offense struggle like they did when they made us lose the turnover over battle for the first time in like a season and a half 3-1 aganst the Pats.  Not exactly a surpirse to lose a game when you lose the turnover battle 3-1.  And yet, all our D had to do was not allow a game winning FG drive against a 2nd year QB on a less talented roster - but our injury riddled D failed to hold once again and between that and the self inflicted errors by 2 fumbles and a bad throw INT, we lost by 3.  

[CirclnWagons]

If last Sunday was everyone eating, Joe Brady must spend his off seasons in Sudan

[Figster]

10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

So our offense that before Sunday had an NFL record for consecutive games not losing the turnover battle, Josh was at 33 TD's - 2 Turnovers in his previous 13 games, we were the highest scoring team in the AFC since "Everybody Eats" became a thing, scored more total points than any team in the NFL last year, including KC and PHI who each played one more game than us with the SB and after we sat the offense in week 17, and we saw our QB, Shakir, etc also set individual records in that span as well, including winning Josh his first MVP who personally set several records in that span.

 

But we are out here complaining about an offense that has been the highest scoring offense in Bills history, the AFC this year, the AFC regular season last year, the AFC post season last year - instead of a defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down, that gave up 32 points in the AFCCG to a team that didn't break 30 the entire season outside that one game and was down 31-0 at one point the following week after hanging 32 on us, and a defense that has given up 35 PPG to the chiefs in our 4 playoff losses to them?  

 

I don't know what this Bills syndrome is called where people don't like scoring unless we score the way they want to score, but its wild to me.  Meanwhile, our D is having issues right now and not playing well enough to make up for the rare instance when Allen and the offense struggle like they did when they made us lose the turnover over battle for the first time in like a season and a half 3-1 aganst the Pats.  Not exactly a surpirse to lose a game when you lose the turnover battle 3-1.  And yet, all our D had to do was not allow a game winning FG drive against a 2nd year QB on a less talented roster - but our injury riddled D failed to hold once again and between that and the self inflicted errors by 2 fumbles and a bad throw INT, we lost by 3.  

I'm complaining about our best weapon on O that's not Josh Allen getting the lowest number of touches this season vs the Pats.

 

James Cook is a feature RB. The best scoring machine in the NFL.

Edited 1 hour ago by Figster

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, Figster said:

I'm complaining about our best weapon on O that's not Josh Allen getting the lowest number of touches this season vs the Pats.

 

James Cook is a feature RB. The best scoring machine in the NFL.

 

That is totally fair criticism.  I think there is plenty of fair criticism with how Brady has called games this year, used personnel, etc.  I am not saying Brady is doing a bad job, but I think there are holes in how he has called games that if he shored up the offense would have fewer stalled phases in games and we would score even more points.  

[Marcus Aurelius]

Growing up in a poor family in South Buffalo I was tired of  ...

NOT EVERYBODY EATS

[BillsPride12]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

“Everyone eats” is also about salary allocation. They can’t pay a superstar free agent WR at the current WR rate. Our best hope is to hit a home run in the draft at WR— which we could have done had we drafted McConkey instead of Coleman (but that’s another debate).

Is this a subliminal Fire Beane post?

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

Ironically enough when the Kgun was at it's best in 1991 it averaged 28.6 points per game which is exactly we're averaging this season. 

Yeah, but I remember it, and in my memory they scored 50 points a game and never lost. Every play was a TD on a crossing route to Andre Reed. I was also young and didn't have a drinking problem. So, take us back to 1991 so I can get a mulligan on all the bad decisions I made in my life. Damn you Joe Brady! 

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

Is this a subliminal Fire Beane post?

This message board for the past 3.5 days has been an exercise in how many ways people can start "fire the coach and GM" threads. People have been pretty creative. 

[Augie]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

“Everyone eats” is also about salary allocation. They can’t pay a superstar free agent WR at the current WR rate. Our best hope is to hit a home run in the draft at WR— which we could have done had we drafted McConkey instead of Coleman (but that’s another debate).

 

I’d agree, but we already had an abundance of slot WR types. (This is the other debate.) No point in creating a deeper logjam. What we needed was that guy who can operate outside, gain separation and make the defense afraid. That is harder to come by, and that’s not really what McConkey is, IMO. I loved him coming out of UGA, the guy is just a football player, but we already have a good guy in that role.

 

But yes, I think we need to hit on that guy in the draft. We don’t have $30Mil+ to throw at a proven guy.  

[corta765]

3 hours ago, Yobogoya! said:

I think it's an OK philosophy in the sense that the offense isn't being hamstrung by any one particular star player- the Patriots operated like that for most of their dynasty sans the Randy Moss years. 

 

Sure they had certain mainstays, like Gronk, Welker, Edelman, etc. 

 

But for the most part they rode whoever the "hot hand" was in a certain game. I think that's what the Bills are missing- Kincaid was carving the Pats up, so why not keep feeding him? If the guy whose finding the sweet spot is Shakir, then feed Shakir. If it's Cook, then feed Cook. 

 

Once you've unlocked the guy who's having success, you can stop trying to spread the ball around until they stop it. If their defense adjusts, THEN you spread the ball around again. Once McDaniels and Maye figured out that Diggs wasn't going to be stopped all game, they fed him to the tune of his biggest game in over two years. It's really that simple. 

 

Agreed.

 

I said on another thread that Sal on his podcast with Boston sports guys last week discussed the everyone eats ideology and they responded Brady's most successful years in terms of SB and when they team did well was when the Pats did that. They even remarked as fun as the Moss years were it got stale because he demanded the ball so much and the offense was better on a more regular basis when it was a bit more committee based.

 

I thought the Bills offense was behind the Pats defense all night which contributed to not having a hot hand. I also would be really happy to see a WR addition to the team that could add another weapon to Cook, Shakir, & Kincaid who seems to have found his mark. One more guy that can just go rough shot for 6-7 targets a game would diversify the offense just a bit more like we would like.

 

I truly don't understand what our strategy was with Diggs and to his credit he balled out incredibly along with Maye who made some Josh level plays late.

[Sweats]

2 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

Run the the "k gun". Josh can handle this

 

 

 

 

We just can't.......running the K-gun or hurry-up offense would only allow us to score points quickly (if at all) and then have to rely on our putrid D to hold their ground for too much of the game.

 

And i think at this point, no one wants our D out there any longer than reasonably possible.

[Low Positive]

5 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

Agreed.

 

I said on another thread that Sal on his podcast with Boston sports guys last week discussed the everyone eats ideology and they responded Brady's most successful years in terms of SB and when they team did well was when the Pats did that. They even remarked as fun as the Moss years were it got stale because he demanded the ball so much and the offense was better on a more regular basis when it was a bit more committee based.

 

I thought the Bills offense was behind the Pats defense all night which contributed to not having a hot hand. I also would be really happy to see a WR addition to the team that could add another weapon to Cook, Shakir, & Kincaid who seems to have found his mark. One more guy that can just go rough shot for 6-7 targets a game would diversify the offense just a bit more like we would like.

 

I truly don't understand what our strategy was with Diggs and to his credit he balled out incredibly along with Maye who made some Josh level plays late.

Our Strategy was to take away Maye's #1 option in Hunter Henry and stop the run. They did that pretty well. Unfortunately, that opened things up for Diggs. As a fan, that was the worst possible outcome.