Interesting comment from McDermott Sal pointed out about execution of plays called on defense.

[DeepPass]

2 hours ago, T.E. said:

Yeah, McDermott can blame whomever he wants, but the fact of the matter is that the same flaws we're seeing this season were issues in past years with completely different rosters and coordinators. He's the common denominator.

I'm starting to believe the same.  The defense has never come up BIG for years!

[Scott7975]

I didn't see a game thread for next weeks game yet so I will just post this here. I thought the media asked some pretty good questions this week. Sounds like Keon is in the doghouse.
 

 

[JP51]

I was hoping the comment was our defense sucks and babich is gonna pay for it with his job and I am going to hire a defensive mind and turn over control so I dont pay for it with mine.... or something like that... but alas...

 He was calling out the rook ... 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

How hard is it to play defense on this defense? Why is it rocket surgery?

 

How do you know it's so hard?  And how's the complexity here compare to other teams, how do you know that? 

 

There was an article in the paper maybe the Buffalo News where Landon Jackson was quoted as saying something along the lines of one of the other players told him.  You're likely not going to always remember the play or your assignment or even hear the call right, just go with your gut and play fast.  A rookie going with his gut can be a problem.

[Marcus Aurelius]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Mom's basement has 2 reclining chairs 

Mine has a bed ...

[colin]

No disguise on O, rookie coordinators only, d is so flipping fancy that only delicate geniuses can execute it.

 

My conclusion: it's the players fault, not the guy who runs every football aspect of this organization !!

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

They were better against the run and actually stopped on 3rd down several times That is positive. But

 

1. the soft zone where a guy is 5 yards open and the dbs are rooted to the spot and not moving to where the ball is going was idiotic. When Hyde, Poyer, Tre and Milano were in their prime this is how we got turnovers or separated  the receiver from the ball. The zone defense is terrible with this personnel and simply does not work. Mostly on the coaches but partly on the players.

 

2. The inability of Bills Blitzers to keep Maye hemmed in and when they were rushing him not close quick enough to make the sack, hit him and affect the throw and not jumping with hands up to either knock the ball down or unsight the receiver. Its been at least 2 solid years of inconsistent play in this area and last night was one of the worst examples

 

3. The missed tackles. There was a bunch last night but the Shaq miss on Diggs was a game loser that allowed the Pats a first down. I'm not sure how pro players cant tackle. I have no idea how they fix that? fundamentals somehow missing.

 

It seemed like a couple of positives for the Bills last night then a lot of regression

 

 

The Pats were 3/9 in converting 3rd downs.

 

We looked bad against the pass this weekend. But for most of the season we've been very good, actually. We were #1 in the league against the pass after week four. That's a bit deceptive, but it does make the point. But yeah, Poyer and Hyde were even more valuable than they seemed at the time. We're trying to switch from mostly zone to being able to do both this year. It was always likely to have hiccups.

 

Couldn't agree more about hemming in Maye. The Bills are usually really good at this. They were awful yesterday.

 

The defense allowed 23 points. In a game where the Pats started one drive at the Buffalo 11 yard line. More, the first half defense was really good. But they were bad in the 2nd. But the defense was certainly not the main problem. 

 

1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said:

Our McDermott defenses stopped being great around 2020.

 

 

Might feel that way, but it's not true. They were great (though not against the Chiefs) all the way up to probably 2023. Poyer and Hyde aging out hurt desperately.

 

#1 defense in 2021

#2 defense in 2022

#4 defense in 2023.

#11 last year, a major dropoff

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, Governor said:

Sal always tries to paint a picture that it’s somehow the fans fault when Coaches and players don’t execute.

 

Oh, well fans were complaining about the lack of passing down the field and this is what happens.

Yes, the fans did that! Totally!

 

 

Yeah, um, Sal doesn't do that.

 

Links? Quotations?

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Thurman#1

[Ray Finkel]

2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

They were better against the run and actually stopped on 3rd down several times That is positive. But

 

1. the soft zone where a guy is 5 yards open and the dbs are rooted to the spot and not moving to where the ball is going was idiotic. When Hyde, Poyer, Tre and Milano were in their prime this is how we got turnovers or separated  the receiver from the ball. The zone defense is terrible with this personnel and simply does not work. Mostly on the coaches but partly on the players.

 

2. The inability of Bills Blitzers to keep Maye hemmed in and when they were rushing him not close quick enough to make the sack, hit him and affect the throw and not jumping with hands up to either knock the ball down or unsight the receiver. Its been at least 2 solid years of inconsistent play in this area and last night was one of the worst examples

 

3. The missed tackles. There was a bunch last night but the Shaq miss on Diggs was a game loser that allowed the Pats a first down. I'm not sure how pro players cant tackle. I have no idea how they fix that? fundamentals somehow missing.

 

It seemed like a couple of positives for the Bills last night then a lot of regression

But Sal said he didn’t think the Bills did a bad job tackling 😱

[TFBillsfan]

And some point McDermott has to look in the mirror regarding this D and his overall philosophy. Defensively, with the exception of Bosa, Thompson and the two rookie DL, everyone has experience playing in his system. The constant excuses about guys not understanding the system is worn out. 

 

It stills burns me that the Bills let Houston covert a 4th and long by playing so soft in coverage and I don’t need to stay anything about his defensive scheme with 13 seconds. Point being these same themes continue today and all to often McDermott can’t make the necessary adjustments.
 

It’s beyond maddening how bad our pass rush is no matter who is on the DL! Year after year, we constantly hear about players playing out of position as we get exploited in the running game. Or even better, our DL continues to get stonewalled by teams with 3 or 4 starters out. For all the insane amount of resources spent on the DL, they continue to underperform. Beane and his scouts should be held accountable as well. The money we haves tied up in Jones, AJE, Groot, Ed, Bosa, Hoecht and Ogu for these results are unacceptable. Do we really believe Hoecht or Ogu are going to dramatically change our DL?
 

We draft small LB’s who can’t hold up to the physicality of the position but yet continue to ignore drafting quality backups. And Joe A or Cairlo aren’t quality backups.

 

In the secondary, when’s the last time a DB or Safety were in position to break on the ball for an INT. Typically, our INT’s are overthrows by the QB. As I mentioned in another post, our entire secondary played horrible last night. Do we really believe a rookie who’s had a significant knee injury is somehow going to change our secondary when he’s had zero NFL experience thus far and had tackling issues in college?

All said we have significant issues on D and  the Bills haven’t played well in the last three games against MIA, Saints and NE!

 

Next up ATL on the road who have multiple offensive weapons! 

Edited 6 hours ago by TFBillsfan

[gobills404]

Sounds like a rookie made a rookie mistake in his first game. Let’s not read too much into it.

 

[pigpen65]

Lol, I had no idea Landon Jackson even played. 

[Sharky7337]

I'm sorry I can't listen to sal. He's insufferable 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I didn't see a game thread for next weeks game yet so I will just post this here. I thought the media asked some pretty good questions this week. Sounds like Keon is in the doghouse.

I also sensed some unhappiness with Brady. McD nevers says his name but all the comments about 'too cute' and 'not physical enough' speak to the play calling.  

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

7 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

I thought this was interesting today.  Sal made a good point so I put the two clips together with the play they are talking about.   I wonder if McDermott was talking about Jackson or if it was someone else....honestly who else though?  This must be Sean's way of calling out young players.

 

Quick note for those of you who are so far advanced in your football knowledge as opposed us fat losers living in our mom's basement playing maddenwho don't watch the nfl, you already knew about this play and what happened right so spare me your personal insults.

 

 

 

Sean's running out of scapegoats. 

[iccrewman112]

7 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

Preseason mistake in week 5. 

that’s preseason for a guy who’s hasn’t been active

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

I also sensed some unhappiness with Brady. McD nevers says his name but all the comments about 'too cute' and 'not physical enough' speak to the play calling.  

 

Yeah I watched Bradys presser as well.  Doesn't look like him and McD are on the same page.

[LABILLBACKER]

7 hours ago, boyst said:

How hard is it to play defense on this defense? Why is it rocket surgery?

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

How do you know it's so hard?  And how's the complexity here compare to other teams, how do you know that? 

 

There was an article in the paper maybe the Buffalo News where Landon Jackson was quoted as saying something along the lines of one of the other players told him.  You're likely not going to always remember the play or your assignment or even hear the call right, just go with your gut and play fast.  A rookie going with his gut can be a problem.

I don't ever want my de backpedaling into coverage under any circumstances. I don't care if he got the play wrong.

[Old Coot]

9 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

I thought this was interesting today.  Sal made a good point so I put the two clips together with the play they are talking about.   I wonder if McDermott was talking about Jackson or if it was someone else....honestly who else though?  This must be Sean's way of calling out young players.

 

Quick note for those of you who are so far advanced in your football knowledge as opposed us fat losers living in our mom's basement playing maddenwho don't watch the nfl, you already knew about this play and what happened right so spare me your personal insults.

 

Watching the replay my impression is that jackson looks lost -- like he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing on that play.