For all you McDermott haters, who would you want? (Now a poll)

[Kirby Jackson]

13 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

@Kirby Jackson any college coaches worthy of taking the reigns?? 

 

I watch a lot of college ball since I moved to the south a few years ago (college is king here; and I get it now), but I dont know well enough at all to even guesstimate.

 

IMO, if we made a change, Im not into a re-tread, and I'm not into an old and passed by guy for sure (Cowher, Gruden, no thanks).  Id swoop down into college ranks and pluck a guy from there!!  Its risky, but better to me than the safer boring route I already covered.

College football is pretty incredible!! Living in the south, you get the passion.

 

There are some names floated that I don’t think are realistic (Deion, BB, Ryan Day and Sark). Those guys either don’t appeal or have too high profile of a job already. I think Matt Campbell (Iowa State) is the likeliest to make the jump. Lincoln Riley (USC) would probably be the next option. Curt Cignetti (Indiana) feels like an option too. 

[LABILLBACKER]

On 10/5/2025 at 8:56 PM, Lionel Hutz said:

Belichick would have been great hire a couple years ago but he’s damaged goods now. 

 

Jim Harbaugh would have been a great hire after he left Michigan. 
 

At this point I’d take anyone just because the team isn’t going anywhere with McD in charge. 

We've had bites at different apples only to watch Pegs stay in his comfort zone. 

Johnson

Harbaugh

Peyton

Belichick (2021)

 

[Bad Things]

I'm of the opinion that many of the current "fans" on TBD should be replaced with better ones.

[Lionel Hutz]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We've had bites at different apples only to watch Pegs stay in his comfort zone. 

Johnson

Harbaugh

Peyton

Belichick (2021)

 

Honestly, at this point I'd even take a chance with Belichick because:

 

1. He wouldn't be any worse than McD and he's an actual defensive-minded coach.

2. He has a gigantic chip on his shoulder and is desperate to prove he can win without Brady.

[L Ron Burgundy]

On 10/6/2025 at 6:39 AM, thenorthremembers said:

Bill Belichick the guy who has never won anything without Tom Brady.  The guy who is getting his lunch stolen in college.  Great idea.

Some of those superbowls were won on the back of their defenses.   People seem to forget that.  How did Brady play when they beat the Rams?  Average.   

 

I don't get why people are defensive about McDermott.  If we keep him and never get a sb with Josh he should be hated.  He's a defensive coach whose defenses suck when it counts.  Oh the culture!  Bs.   It's all Josh.  We win despite Sean McDermott. 

[Since1981]

Sometimes change is necessary for its own sake. McD is a good guy and Pegs likes him. Had #17 for 8 years. Tick tick.
 

If the team doesn’t make it passed AFCC, it’s time for a change.

[26TrapDraw]

I don’t t hate McDermott as a person or a head coach. I just hate his defense.

Edited 7 hours ago by 26TrapDraw

[Sojourner]

5 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:

I don’t t hate McDermott as a person or a head coach. I just hate his defense.

Agree. If he doesn’t make it this year it should be time. 
 

The only thing I’ve ever held against McD was the 13 seconds debacle. If that doesn’t turn it into a SB appearance then I’ll revert to people being right that he should have gone then with or without Frazier. 
 

Sad because he’s built a winning culture and a standard of expectations for a Lombardi. Sure Josh is a significant part of that but it’s like they say; it takes a village. 

[Gregg]

What if Harbaugh (Ravens) becomes available? He has been with the Ravens a long time. He has been a good coach in this league, but this year is looking like a disaster for them, even though injuries are a big part of it. I wonder if he and the organization part ways if they don't make the playoffs.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 hours ago, Gregg said:

What if Harbaugh (Ravens) becomes available? He has been with the Ravens a long time. He has been a good coach in this league, but this year is looking like a disaster for them, even though injuries are a big part of it. I wonder if he and the organization part ways if they don't make the playoffs.

I want no part of retreads. I don’t care what they accomplished. He’s been a disaster. Just keep McDermott if your plan is BB, Gruden, Tomlin, Harbaugh, McCarthy, etc… If you move on, you move on to what’s next not what was 15 years ago. That’s like hiring Marv as the GM. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Kirby Jackson

[Lost]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I want no part of retreads. I don’t care what they accomplished. He’s been a disaster. Just keep McDermott of your plan is BB, Gruden, Tomlin, Harbaugh, McCarthy, etc… If you move on, you move on to what’s next not what was 15 years ago. That’s like hiring Marv as the GM. 

 

So Mike McDaniel then? 😂

[Kirby Jackson]

19 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

So Mike McDaniel then? 😂

As OC? Sure, he could be dynamic with Josh. I don’t like him as HC but think he’d get a lot out of this offense despite his inability as a leader. He doesn’t need to be a leader here though. Josh does that. 
 

What I want in the next HC, fresh ideas and an attacking mentality. I want swagger. I want to try to blow teams out. I want to attack on defense. Blitz, jump routes, and just play down hill. You’ll get beat over the top from time to time but if you make a few plays so be it. Get a handful of stops a game and you’d never lose.
 

On offense I want the gas pedal down. Play with tempo. Throw it all over the yard and use the dynamic running game to complement it (not the other way around). I want them to go on 4th all the time (McD is pretty good about this). I want an offense that tries to score every play (and thinks that they will). I want them to be hard to play against like a team that plays full court press the whole game -60 minutes of hell.

 

I don’t need a conservative organizer. That’s already been established by McD. I want someone that will look across the field at Mahomes and Reid and think “keep up.” That’s just a totally different mentality than “let’s outlast them.” 
 

Curt Cignetti is a guy that has that arrogance and swagger I’m looking for. He’s older than I would want but that’s the mentality I’d be looking for.

Edited 4 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[Boo Radley Boston]

2 hours ago, 26TrapDraw said:

I don’t t hate McDermott as a person or a head coach. I just hate his defense.

Julian Edelman claims that Josh McDaniel's has McDermott's number.

 

I don't know how factual that is, but if McDermott does not at least take the Bills to the Superbowl this season he has to go IMO. Otherwise you run the risk of wasting Allen's career like Mike Tomlin did with Big Ben. Pittsburgh wont fire Tomlin either and look where it has got them. 

[Gregg]

10 minutes ago, Boo Radley Boston said:

Julian Edelman claims that Josh McDaniel's has McDermott's number.

 

I don't know how factual that is, but if McDermott does not at least take the Bills to the Superbowl this season he has to go IMO. Otherwise you run the risk of wasting Allen's career like Mike Tomlin did with Big Ben. Pittsburgh wont fire Tomlin either and look where it has got them. 

 

Ben has won two Super Bowls. That doesn't sound like a wasted career to me. McDermott is making Allen this generation's version of Marino/Rivers.

[Billever76]

On 10/6/2025 at 8:55 AM, thenorthremembers said:

 

If Super Bowls are a team accolade, why is it that the best Quarterbacks win most of them?   Brady, Manning, Mahomes have won almost half of the Super Bowls over the last twenty years.  Belichick never one without Brady.    Can you even name the coach Manning won his second with?   Reid never won without Mahomes.    If you want to put Josh Allen in the same class as Tom Brady go ahead, but its absolutely inane.  

 

 

You fail to understand those QBs you named above had BETTER coaching,a better team around them…yes it takes good to elite QBs to win the bowl but even an elite qb will fall short without a good team and coaching behind him…Allen has lacked good playoff defense and good coaching in the playoffs…it’s not even debatable 

5 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Agree. If he doesn’t make it this year it should be time. 
 

The only thing I’ve ever held against McD was the 13 seconds debacle. If that doesn’t turn it into a SB appearance then I’ll revert to people being right that he should have gone then with or without Frazier. 
 

Sad because he’s built a winning culture and a standard of expectations for a Lombardi. Sure Josh is a significant part of that but it’s like they say; it takes a village. 

McDermott hasn’t built what you claim that’s what allot of McDermott supporters seem to miss…drafting Josh Allen and Allen perfecting his skill set is the WINNING CULTURE Allen has been saving bean and McDermott jobs since he got here lol

[TheFunPolice]

11 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Some of those superbowls were won on the back of their defenses.   People seem to forget that.  How did Brady play when they beat the Rams?  Average.   

 

I don't get why people are defensive about McDermott.  If we keep him and never get a sb with Josh he should be hated.  He's a defensive coach whose defenses suck when it counts.  Oh the culture!  Bs.   It's all Josh.  We win despite Sean McDermott. 

 

That last Rams/Pats SB was one of the worst SB games I have ever seen.

 

3-0 going into the 4th quarter. Brady's first pass of the game was picked off. 

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

Ben has won two Super Bowls. That doesn't sound like a wasted career to me. McDermott is making Allen this generation's version of Marino/Rivers.

 

Right! And Ben went to a 3rd vs Green Bay. 

 

If Allen plays in 3 Super Bowls and wins 2 like Big Ben that's a lock solid HOF career. Not every QB is Brady winning 7 SB rings. 

[TheFunPolice]

People have gotten totally out of whack with expectations for teams and QBs. 

 

Manning "couldn't win the big one" but played in 4 Super Bowls and won 2, going 1-1 with 2 different teams and had a winning record vs Brady in the playoffs. 

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, Billever76 said:

You fail to understand those QBs you named above had BETTER coaching,a better team around them…yes it takes good to elite QBs to win the bowl but even an elite qb will fall short without a good team and coaching behind him…Allen has lacked good playoff defense and good coaching in the playoffs…it’s not even debatable 

McDermott hasn’t built what you claim that’s what allot of McDermott supporters seem to miss…drafting Josh Allen and Allen perfecting his skill set is the WINNING CULTURE Allen has been saving bean and McDermott jobs since he got here lol

 

I am kind of done having this argument.  I've already showed the statistics that show Belichick and McDermott's points per game in the playoffs are nearly identical.  I've provided actual stats that show Mahomes win percentage when his defense gives up 30 points or more is nearly double Josh's.  That stat literally takes the defense out of the equation and shows that Josh doesnt close the same type of games that Mahomes does.    What you fail to understand is its way easier to blame McDermott than it is Josh, because hes more disposable.  

 

 If Josh needs elite coaching, and an elite defense to win a championship then maybe he just isnt as elite as guys like Mahomes, Brady, and Manning. Obviously if we need to make a move just to make a move go ahead fire McDermott.   Just make sure the next coach is elite and brings an elite defense with him. 

 

 

 

Edited 21 minutes ago by thenorthremembers

[Boo Radley Boston]

4 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

Ben has won two Super Bowls. That doesn't sound like a wasted career to me. McDermott is making Allen this generation's version of Marino/Rivers.

Ben won a Super Bowl and lost a Super Bowl with Tomlin. In fact, the Super Bowl that Tomlin won was with Bill Cowhers team.

 

Bens career was squandered. He was good enough to win more that 1 Super Bowl under Tomlin. Tomlin had Ben, Levon Bell, Antonio Brown, JuJu Smith all in their prime and screwed it up.

 

I hope that Allen does not wind up like Marino or Rivers.

[GoBills808]

11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

I am kind of done having this argument.  I've already showed the statistics that show Belichick and McDermott's points per game in the playoffs are nearly identical.  I've provided actual stats that show Mahomes win percentage when his defense gives up 30 points or more is nearly double Josh's.  That stat literally takes the defense out of the equation and shows that Josh doesnt close the same type of games that Mahomes does.    What you fail to understand is its way easier to blame McDermott than it is Josh, because hes more disposable.  

 

 If Josh needs elite coaching, and an elite defense to win a championship then maybe he just isnt as elite as guys like Mahomes, Brady, and Manning. Obviously if we need to make a move just to make a move go ahead fire McDermott.   Just make sure the next coach is elite and brings an elite defense with him. 

 

 

 

kind of stacking the deck considering like 5 of those games were Bills/Chiefs tho