LABILLBACKER Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: I'm wondering where the Strong Safety went. Rapp injured him.... 2 Quote
K-9 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 11 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Long story short it's the lineman's general assignment. 0-tech: Directly over center, in charge of the gaps between the Center & Guards. Ted Washington 1-tech: attacks hole between center and guard. Dareus 3-tech: attacks between guard and Tackle. Kyle Williams, Ed Oliver 5-tech: DE in a 3-4, or run sealer in 4-3 7-tech: standard all purpose 4-3 DE. Groot. 9-tech: speedy edge DE or pass rushing OLB. Hughes, Solomon the point the article is trying to make that Walker looks like just a big heavy guy but is showing a surprising amount of speed and footwork instead of just shooting the gap. I would add that there are also 2, 4, and 6 techs as well. They allude to lining up directly over the G, T, and TE, respectively. 1 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, K-9 said: I would add that there are also 2, 4, and 6 techs as well. They allude to lining up directly over the G, T, and TE, respectively. True. I skipped them for my quick rundown as they've mostly faded from use. that said you DO get players who break the mold. Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 but found himself with Bruce Smith and Phillips knew it would be a waste to keep a HoF talent run sealing 4 Quote
K-9 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 5 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: True. I skipped them for my quick rundown as they've mostly faded from use. that said you DO get players who break the mold. Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 but found himself with Bruce Smith and Phillips knew it would be a waste to keep a HoF talent run sealing When I think of all the years Bruce spent in a 34 defense I can only wonder what his record would have been as a 43 DE instead. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) 43 minutes ago, eball said: So 0 tech plays over the C, 1 tech between C and G, 2 tech over the G, and 3 tech between G and T? Basically. You don't get many true 0 techs these days, even in teams running 3-4 style Ds but yea, in principle. 2 tech essentially has the responsibility of playing both the A gap and the B gap. Rex used to like a lot of two gapping IDL looks. Edited September 23 by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: I ran across this article this morning, and it made me roll my eyes. Deone Walker The gist of the article is that Deone Walker could be a steal at 3 technique. Fine! I agree. He's still young and has a lot of developing to do, but he has certainly made some big plays in a season that is only three weeks old. Here is the line that makes me wonder what rock the author crawled out from under and why Sports media outlets (in this case Sports Illustrated) hire such incompetence. Here is the line that blew me away. "Still, many fans wanted the Bills to draft a "big man" and assumed he fit into the 3-technique spot, currently occupied by DaQuan Jones. Walker stands at 6'7" and weighs over 330 pounds. Men that size are typically 3-tech players." As any serious football fan understands, it is the 1 tech defensive tackle who is typically bigger but may not be as mobile as the (typically) more mobile 3 tech. Daquan Jones is a 1 tech. Ed Oliver is a 3 tech all day long, even though injuries forced Buffalo to use Oliver as a one tech some of the time. Now it's true that Deone Walker will probably be asked to play some 1 tech, but like his college career at Kentucky he probably won't be locked into it. At Kentucky, he moved all over the defensive line. Locking him into the 1 tech spot all the time would violate what the Bills say they want to do. "Enable the players to be the best version of themselves." The big issue I have is that the author doesn't seem to understand what differentiates 1 tech and 3 tech. You'd think a guy who writes about football professionally would understand these things. It's pretty basic stuff. I'll bet you $20 an AI chat bot wrote that entire piece. 1 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Whatever happened to the nose guard. 1 tech, 3 tech, 5 tech…. dumb, all of them. Everyone knew what a nose guard was. I’m still looking for a halfback. You know there is a difference between 3 and 4 man defensive lines don't you? Quote
K-9 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yes, it essentially refers to which gap you play in. A 1 tech plays in the A gap (between a center and a guard) and a 3 tech the B gap (between a guard and a tackle). 58 minutes ago, eball said: So 0 tech plays over the C, 1 tech between C and G, 2 tech over the G, and 3 tech between G and T? Allow me a slight nitpick here. Odd numbered techs don’t denote a straight-up gap assignment. Rather they refer to “shades” as in those techs are shading a shoulder of either the G or T (1T, 3T, 5T) or the TE (7T). Edited September 23 by K-9 1 Quote
US Egg Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 hour ago, K-9 said: but the coach-speak football nerds like to be cool as if they’re in the film room breaking things down. .....as this thread is proving. 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Then why not….”Nose Guard”? Wrong sport 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 23 Posted September 23 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: Allow me a slight nitpick here. Odd numbered techs don’t denote a straight-up gap assignment. Rather they refer to “shades” as in those techs are shading a shoulder of either the G or T (1T, 3T, 5T) or the TE (7T). I was trying to simplify. I was going to get into shading and the difference between a 4i and a 5tech but this was beginners class 😂 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted September 23 Posted September 23 14 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You know there is a difference between 3 and 4 man defensive lines don't you? Yes. I’m not stupid. One has 3 guys, the other has 4. 5 Quote
Ralonzo Posted September 23 Posted September 23 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Basically. You don't get many true 0 techs these days, even in teams running 3-4 style Ds but yea, in principle. 2 tech essentially has the responsibility of playing both the A gap and the B gap. Rex used to like a lot of two gapping IDL looks. Steelers come to mind using a 0-technique in their 3-man DL base set. They specifically look for Big Huge McLarge blobby guys (Yahya Black recently) to just plop over the center. Theyve been running that for two coaches now (i.e. since the Carter administration) 2 Quote
Dukestreetking Posted September 23 Posted September 23 About a week+ ago, I ventured into PPP for some reason. I lasted 5 minutes before, effectively, pledged bodily harm upon another poster. Does that mean I'm a 5-tech? 3 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23 Posted September 23 9 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Steelers come to mind using a 0-technique in their 3-man DL base set. They specifically look for Big Huge McLarge blobby guys (Yahya Black recently) to just plop over the center. Theyve been running that for two coaches now (i.e. since the Carter administration) Vince Wilfork is the NG I think of most in the last 20 years. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I was trying to simplify. I was going to get into shading and the difference between a 4i and a 5tech but this was beginners class 😂 No worries. My old, over-officious habits die hard, what can I say. Quote
MPL Posted September 23 Posted September 23 We really have to stop calling anything with words journalism. What's next? This thread is journalism? 1 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted September 23 Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, MPL said: We really have to stop calling anything with words journalism. What's next? This thread is journalism? Obviously not. It's literature. 2 Quote
chris heff Posted September 23 Posted September 23 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Whatever happened to the nose guard. 1 tech, 3 tech, 5 tech…. dumb, all of them. Everyone knew what a nose guard was. I’m still looking for a halfback. You forgot split end. Quote
MPL Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Just now, BigDingus said: 14 minutes ago, MPL said: We really have to stop calling anything with words journalism. What's next? This thread is journalism? Obviously not. It's literature. Yes. And I'm Billy Burroughs. Quote
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