McDermott decision making

[uticaclub]

It's more about personnel than coaching decisions.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The Bills against the Ravens literally had 30 seconds left with no timeouts at their own 25 at the end of the first half.  We got a field goal.

Didn't the chiefs only have 13 seconds ???

 

Oh nevermind....

[billsfan89]

28 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Honestly the replay we saw watching to me was watching the game was after Dolphins snapped ball on 1st down or milliseconds after. Not sure what happened at the stadium. It's easy to MMQB the miss challenge.

 

I remember the Fins not rushing to the line after that catch. I could be wrong but it wasn't like they attempted to do a quick snap to limit the time the coaches had to look at the replay. 

[djp14150]

2 hours ago, billvernsays said:

1st drive of the game, 3rd and 4 from midfield. He bobbles the ball while going out of bounds. 

Assuming it woukd be ruled incomplete….

 

that play was at Buffalo 41. They challenge and win, dolphins likely go for it. If that was on their own 30, he challenges and they punt.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

The bigger picture…..You are missing the bigger picture.

 

Which is what exactly?   That there's a cadre of posters on TSW who dislike Sean McDermott and who cavill over any decision they decide is "wrong" because they have no real things to complain about -- like being 0-3 instead of 3-0?

[pi2000]

I would also question the play calling on the final drive.   

 

It's 2nd and 7, 1:56 left on the clock, Miami is out of timeouts.

 

A first down and you win the game.

 

Instead they call 2 unimaginative run plays up the middle to put them at 4th and 5 from the 30, with 27s on the clock.

 

You have the league MVP, and you don't let him attempt a 5yd pass to ice the game?   If Prater misses, Miami is in business.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Who hires the people to tell him which way to go on it? He is responsible for it, especially when it's been a problem for 9 years. 

 

McDermott has had "a problem" with challenges for 9 years?   Really?  

 

40 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

I would also question the play calling on the final drive.   

 

It's 2nd and 7, 1:56 left on the clock, Miami is out of timeouts.

 

A first down and you win the game.

 

Instead they call 2 unimaginative run plays up the middle to put them at 4th and 5 from the 30, with 27s on the clock.

 

You have the league MVP, and you don't let him attempt a 5yd pass to ice the game?   If Prater misses, Miami is in business.

 

"There are three things that can happen when you throw a pass, and two of them are bad." -- Woody Hayes

 

It was a 48 yard FG at :22, which would put the LOS at Fins' 30.   The Bills defense was forcing the Fins to dink and dunk down the field all night, they had no TOs, and 22 seconds left.   FYI, 11 of Tua's 22 completions were behind or at the LOS for 6.6 yards per completion and  4.3 yards per attempt.

Edited September 19 by SoTier

[realtruelove]

A smart coach would have called a timeout after the Hill bobble on the sidelines. When the other team rushes the next play that alone is a red flag. Slappy likes to use his timeouts when he's on defense.

[BillsFan130]

4 hours ago, chris heff said:

I know this is about McDermott’s decision making, but the oddest decision last night, in my opinion was on Brady. I can’t remember if it was second or third quarter, but on consecutive plays two Dolphins DB were injured. Some UDA from Stanford came in, don’t know who replaced the other guy. As the OC don’t you make a call that tests one of those guys? Instead Brady called a run up the middle, which got stuffed.

Yep. It kind of really flipped the game as well.

Looked like bills were gonna go up 21-7 and start pulling away. But they get stuffed on that sequence that you're referring to, missed the kick, and then allow the long TD drive.

 

"Complimentary" football at its finest lol

53 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

I would also question the play calling on the final drive.   

 

It's 2nd and 7, 1:56 left on the clock, Miami is out of timeouts.

 

A first down and you win the game.

 

Instead they call 2 unimaginative run plays up the middle to put them at 4th and 5 from the 30, with 27s on the clock.

 

You have the league MVP, and you don't let him attempt a 5yd pass to ice the game?   If Prater misses, Miami is in business.

I think the play calling at the end was fine.

 

Those runs basically were the icing of the game. Even if prater misses, Miami has to go 65 yards in 25 seconds with 0 timeouts . Extremely unlikely, especially with a noodle arm QB

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Yep. It kind of really flipped the game as well.

Looked like bills were gonna go up 21-7 and start pulling away. But they get stuffed on that sequence that you're referring to, missed the kick, and then allow the long TD drive.

 

"Complimentary" football at its finest lol

 

 

The main reason the Bills were in position to go up 21-7 was James Cook. They gave him the ball again and the Dolphins that time made a play. I really struggle with the 2nd guessing of that. If it was 3rd and 8 and they gave it to Cook, sure. But it was 2nd and 8, they gave it to the guy who got them there and people want to bemoan it. Nonsensical.

[TH3]

5 hours ago, billvernsays said:

By not having a (good) process in place to challenge plays e.g. Tyreek’s Bobble, Josh Allen’s 1st down against the Ravens, we are at a big disadvantage especially when we play better teams/coaches. 
 

I see those 2 non challenges as big mistakes on Sean Mc and without timely mistakes from D Henry and The Dolphins we could easily be 1-2 vs 3-0.
 

Tonight I have McDermotts actions directly leading to 11 points for the dolphins (challenge would have put them 4th and 4 on the 1st drive - 7 points , and the bizarre time outs at the end of the half allowed Miami to go for a TD when they were content running the clock to keep Josh off the field - 4 extra points) Without that gift of the roughing the kicker penalty we could’ve easily lost last night because of these decisions. 
 

Does this concern anyone else or am I missing something? 

You are missing all the good decisions 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

The main reason the Bills were in position to go up 21-7 was James Cook. They gave him the ball again and the Dolphins that time made a play. I really struggle with the 2nd guessing of that. If it was 3rd and 8 and they gave it to Cook, sure. But it was 2nd and 8, they gave it to the guy who got them there and people want to bemoan it. Nonsensical.

But to the posters point- The dolphins just had 2 injuries in a row in their secondary. Why not test them right away?

 

Instead they run into a crowded box twice in a row to set up a 3rd and 8. That to me is nonsensical, given the situation 

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

Which is what exactly?   That there's a cadre of posters on TSW who dislike Sean McDermott and who cavill over any decision they decide is "wrong" because they have no real things to complain about -- like being 0-3 instead of 3-0?

   Or like watching that “Defensive showing” last night and knowing it was arse.

   And that his decision making still leaves a decent amount to be desired and we are only three games in.

   And realizing that we absolutely need to make hay while the schedule is soft but as usual it was the Offense winning it for us despite and not due McD.

    Woo hoo. We beat two scrub teams after a quality win. Is this that great feeling you all so fervently pine for without regard to ultimate playoff exits with the best QB ever?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

But to the posters point- The dolphins just had 2 injuries in a row in their secondary. Why not test them right away?

 

Instead they run into a crowded box twice in a row to set up a 3rd and 8. That to me is nonsensical, given the situation 

 

Because the Bills strength offensively is James Cook. Testing them right away with who? Keon Coleman? Josh Palmer? Come on. Seriously. They dream of being as good at their craft as Cook is at his.

 

I wish it wasn't so, but it is. The Bills running back is way better than any of the Bills receivers.

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Because the Bills strength offensively is James Cook. Testing them right away with who? Keon Coleman? Josh Palmer? Come on. Seriously. They dream of being as good at their craft as Cook is at his.

 

I wish it wasn't so, but it is. The Bills running back is way better than any of the Bills receivers.

I know you really like Joe Brady and that's fine, but I think you would even admit this- He criminally underuses play action at times 
 

One of the lower play action teams in the league since he took over in 2023, and Josh Allen has some of the highest metrics when using play action.

 

On that particular time with those two corners being out, and Miami playing a crowded box on top of it? Play action should be an absolute no brainer play call there

Edited September 19 by BillsFan130

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

I know you really like Joe Brady and that's fine, but I think you would even admit this- He criminally underuses play action . 
 

One of the lower play action teams in the league since he took over in 2023, and Josh Allen has some of the highest metrics when using play action.

 

On that particular time with those two corners being out, and Miami playing a crowded box on top of it? Play action should be an absolute no brainer play call there

 

On could we use play action more? Sure. 

 

On does that mean that was a bad call there? Absolutely not. James Cook is just their best offensive player not name Josh Allen. Give your best guys the ball. 

[BillsFan130]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

On could we use play action more? Sure. 

 

On does that mean that was a bad call there? Absolutely not. James Cook is just their best offensive player not name Josh Allen. Give your best guys the ball. 

They did give him the ball and they got stuffed twice in a row because the whole world knew they were running it, especially on 1st down.

 

Not going to nitpick too much as it's impossible to be perfect as a play caller. But I just think a play action in that situation should have been a no brainer, and it goes back to to the root of Joe Brady does not use play action nearly enough

Edited September 19 by BillsFan130

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The main reason the Bills were in position to go up 21-7 was James Cook. They gave him the ball again and the Dolphins that time made a play. I really struggle with the 2nd guessing of that. If it was 3rd and 8 and they gave it to Cook, sure. But it was 2nd and 8, they gave it to the guy who got them there and people want to bemoan it. Nonsensical.

Before the play, I said to my wife that they should go right at one of those guys. I don’t believe that is second guessing. Are you disagreeing that the prevailing philosophy of OC is to go at a guy coming in cold because of injury? Is that what you’re finding nonsensical?

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

McDermott has had "a problem" with challenges for 9 years?   Really?

He is 11 for 38 for challenges, league average is 45%

[LABILLBACKER]

34 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

He is 11 for 38 for challenges, league average is 45%

Careful....you'll be accused of being a cadre that cavills.