Baldy's Breakdowns featuring Ed Oliver and Josh Allen (and rightly so)

[Big Turk]

Said it was the best DT performance of week 1:

 

 

 

Edited September 9 by Big Turk

[Ayjent]

Hell yeah!  Ed Oliver was awesome in that game.  At least someone was holding it down on D.  I actually thought the DL was pretty good, it was everything behind them that was problematic.

[BillsDad51]

Thanks for the post.

[Andrew Son]

It's kind of unusual to have such a dominant individual defensive performance when the defense as a whole was shredded  

[GoBills808]

oliver was so good

 

that was allpro level play

27 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

It's kind of unusual to have such a dominant individual defensive performance when the defense as a whole was shredded  

for sure

but i remember aaron donald being part of some pretty mediocre defenses if memory serves

maybe dt is just one of those spots

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Ayjent said:

Hell yeah!  Ed Oliver was awesome in that game.  At least someone was holding it down on D.  I actually thought the DL was pretty good, it was everything behind them that was problematic.

 

Some of it was little details...like on that long Henry run that he didn't score on and got tackled by Strong after like 50 yards...Henry was bottled up pretty good behind the line and then just found a tiny crease and once he did there was nothing there...a lot of this stuff can get cleaned up by details and McD hammering to the team to do their 1/11th and stop trying to over compensate for things.

[BigAl2526]

1 hour ago, Ayjent said:

Hell yeah!  Ed Oliver was awesome in that game.  At least someone was holding it down on D.  I actually thought the DL was pretty good, it was everything behind them that was problematic.

To me, DaQuan Jones, Deone Wallker and TJ Sanders were relatively invisible.  I think Rousseau and Bosa had a pretty solid game to compliment Oliver's great game.

[blacklabel]

3 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

To me, DaQuan Jones, Deone Wallker and TJ Sanders were relatively invisible.  I think Rousseau and Bosa had a pretty solid game to compliment Oliver's great game.

 

Sanders caught my eye a couple times. He won a few reps and was able to get thru the line but the play was on the opposite side. 

 

I keep reminding myself that they aren't exactly working with the DL they envisioned and are probably gonna mix and match some lineups until they get Larry and Mike back. I'd look up their last names but I'm choosing apathy right now. Also both of them got easy to misspell surnames. 

[Scott7975]

Ed Oliver was a beast this game. It might be his best game yet. I hope he plays like this all year.

 

[sven233]

After watching the All 22, Oliver was every bit as good, if not better, than you thought during the game.  He was awesome.  In fact, The defensive line as a whole wasn't terrible.  Groot was fine.  Oliver was dominant.  And Bosa made some plays in that game you can kind of forget about because of other things that happened.  But he was actually really good outside a couple of missteps on the read options by Jackson.

 

That said, where things started falling apart, particularly in the run game, was on the back 7.  Our LBs were a disaster in this game.  They were getting blown off the ball.  Couldn't disengage from blocks.  And they were out of position all night when it came to the run fits.  Rapp was AWFUL in this game.  Not only was he out of position constantly, it looked like he was running with cement shoes on.  SO SLOW.....  Like, I honestly believe for as much of a step as he's lost the last couple years, Poyer is probably still faster.  It was, by far, his worst game as a Bill.  As for Bishop?  He wasn't great, but he wasn't dreadful either.  Of the 2 safeties, he was the best out there.

 

But yeah.....this run game debacle is more on the LBs and Safeties than it was on the D-Line, although we could still very much benefit from a true dominant run stuffing 1 tech.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, sven233 said:

After watching the All 22, Oliver was every bit as good, if not better, than you thought during the game.  He was awesome.  In fact, The defensive line as a whole wasn't terrible.  Groot was fine.  Oliver was dominant.  And Bosa made some plays in that game you can kind of forget about because of other things that happened.  But he was actually really good outside a couple of missteps on the read options by Jackson.

 

That said, where things started falling apart, particularly in the run game, was on the back 7.  Our LBs were a disaster in this game.  They were getting blown off the ball.  Couldn't disengage from blocks.  And they were out of position all night when it came to the run fits.  Rapp was AWFUL in this game.  Not only was he out of position constantly, it looked like he was running with cement shoes on.  SO SLOW.....  Like, I honestly believe for as much of a step as he's lost the last couple years, Poyer is probably still faster.  It was, by far, his worst game as a Bill.  As for Bishop?  He wasn't great, but he wasn't dreadful either.  Of the 2 safeties, he was the best out there.

 

But yeah.....this run game debacle is more on the LBs and Safeties than it was on the D-Line, although we could still very much benefit from a true dominant run stuffing 1 tech.

Most DEs get burned by Lamar. He has won 2 MVPs doing that.

[Chandler#81]

Love me some Baldy breakdowns!

[Buffalo716]

6 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

oliver was so good

 

that was allpro level play

for sure

but i remember aaron donald being part of some pretty mediocre defenses if memory serves

maybe dt is just one of those spots

It 100% is 

 

Because a defensive tackle is relying on a bunch of other people doing their jobs.. they can't make the run stuff every play 

 

All they can do is do their job and hope the people behind them clean it up most of the time 

 

Ed put the defense on his back and look like the top 10 pick and best defensive player on our roster... It was a supreme game and whether he was at the three or the one, the Ravens could not matches strength speed and tenacity

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It 100% is 

 

Because a defensive tackle is relying on a bunch of other people doing their jobs.. they can't make the run stuff every play 

 

All they can do is do their job and hope the people behind them clean it up most of the time 

 

Ed put the defense on his back and look like the top 10 pick and best defensive player on our roster... It was a supreme game and whether he was at the three or the one, the Ravens could not matches strength speed and tenacity

I guess I'm saying putting the defense on your back as a DT can still look pretty ugly overall

 

That was not a good defensive effort

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I guess I'm saying putting the defense on your back as a DT can still look pretty ugly overall

 

That was not a good defensive effort

It was not good I could say atrocious but I don't want to be mean lol

 

Bernard got washed out all game and I do like him.. he was in la la land

[NewEra]

I’m really bummed that Ed didn’t have a press conference after the game.  BB don’t even have a postgame interview with him on their yt channel…..like wtf!!! They have a Reid Ferguson interview.  Fo reel doh

 

it would’ve been epic if they had Ed mic’d up for that game instead of Palmer.  

[thenorthremembers]

9 hours ago, Ayjent said:

Hell yeah!  Ed Oliver was awesome in that game.  At least someone was holding it down on D.  I actually thought the DL was pretty good, it was everything behind them that was problematic.

If the D-Line was good, everything behind them would have been clean.   You cant rely on safeties to tackle running backs. 

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the D-Line was good, everything behind them would have been clean.   You cant rely on safeties to tackle running backs. 

No because Bernard took himself out of tons of plays with washing himself out or not being in his Gap 

 

I like Bernard a lot he constantly was in the wrong Gap and getting washed out double whammy

 

He wasn't where he needed to be most of the night in the run game

Edited September 10 by Buffalo716

[thenorthremembers]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

No because Bernard took himself out of tons of plays with washing himself out or not being in his Gap 

 

I like Bernard a lot he constantly was in the wrong Gap and getting washed out double whammy

 

He wasn't where he needed to be most of the night in the run game

 

His gap responsibility was horrible.   Milano was no better.  That said if the tackles get off their blocks and clog the gaps the backs dont get to the second level.   The entire defense was piss poor in the run game.   Again, if you are relying on your safeties in the run game its already too late. 

[Richard Noggin]

At least a PORTION of Ed Oliver's success Sunday night was due to how lost that RG Faalele looked. Oliver was a large part of making Faalele look so hapless, but did anyone see the play circulating online tagged as one of the worst plays EVER by an offensive lineman? Bruh wtf (and I don't even talk or type like that, but...)