Refs spotting the ball

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Is it me or were they continuously shorting the Bills on the spot of the ball ?  The biggest one that comes to mind is when Josh slid directly on top of the marker and the referees decide to spot the ball a full yard behind it.
 

There was another really bad one in the Red Zone as well. I feel like this is becoming a trend since Kansas City last year. Having headquarters in New York quickly change the spot seems like an easy fix.

 

In a game of INCHES, I feel like the NFL should put more emphasis on this problem. 

[Success]

It's not just you. And it started w/ that 4th down in the KC game last year.

 

That 1st down Josh made was clear & obvious.  Maybe they didn't have a great angle, but that could have been a game-changing spot if we hadn't won.

 

[transient]

Allen has been robbed of 3 first downs in 2 games by this crap...

[strive_for_five_guy]

They didn’t want to make it obvious they wanted the Bills to win last night

[Avisan]

Just now, Success said:

It's not just you. And it started w/ that 4th down in the KC game last year.

 

That 1st down Josh made was clear & obvious.  Maybe they didn't have a great angle, but that could have been a game-changing spot if we hadn't won.

 

It was the third down vs. KC, too.  Kincaid had already gotten the first, then Allen got the first AGAIN, and somehow neither counted.  That crew shorted us on spots all night.  It was maddening.

 

Football really is a game of inches at time, refs shorting us an entire yard in key situations is getting really,  really old.

[Bruffalo]

The refs being bad at their jobs is probably the least shocking thing to me in the universe.

 

It's a constant like gravity.

[boyst]

was going to bring this up but hadn't in all the static.

 

that was a horirble spot. fireable offense.

[JP51]

7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Is it me or were they continuously shorting the Bills on the spot of the ball ?  The biggest one that comes to mind is when Josh slid directly on top of the marker and the referees decide to spot the ball a full yard behind it.
 

There was another really bad one in the Red Zone as well. I feel like this is becoming a trend since Kansas City last year. Having headquarters in New York quickly change the spot seems like an easy fix.

 

In a game of INCHES, I feel like the NFL should put more emphasis on this problem. 

and the thing is if you watch the replay it wasnt inches, it was almost a full two yards... I blame our coaches for not challenging...  that was egregious.

[Warriorspikes51]

where was "replay assist"  

[dorquemada]

Plus the whole video analytics to determine if the ball was past the line, but still letting the smooth brain refs place the ball is exactly backwards.  Place the ball with computer vision then bring out the chain gang.  

 

It's a matter of time before we're doing all officiating that way, and just let the refs announce the calls

[transient]

In general I'm wary of AI taking away jobs, but it can't come soon enough for NFL officiating.

[Warriorspikes51]

showing the replay after and having Terry be like  "yea they spotted it wrong"    WHY IS THAT NOT IMMEDIATELY REVIEWED AUTOMATICALLY 
 

"SKY JUDGE"  

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

showing the replay after and having Terry be like  "yea they spotted it wrong"    WHY IS THAT NOT IMMEDIATELY REVIEWED AUTOMATICALLY 
 

"SKY JUDGE"  

 

I dont know why humans are still spotting footballs.   

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

7 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

Plus the whole video analytics to determine if the ball was past the line, but still letting the smooth brain refs place the ball is exactly backwards.  Place the ball with computer vision then bring out the chain gang.  

 

It's a matter of time before we're doing all officiating that way, and just let the refs announce the calls

 

The new tech doesn't tell refs where to spot the ball. All it does is once the ball is spotted it tells them if it's a first down or not

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

The refs being bad at their jobs is probably the least shocking thing to me in the universe.

 

It's a constant like gravity.

If you’re going to be a terrible ref then at least be equally terrible to both teams. 

[Scott7975]

Yes. There was at least 2 or 3 obvious bad spots today.

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

If you’re going to be a terrible ref then at least be equally terrible to both teams. 

That's the secret ingredient that makes them extra terrible... The bias!

[dorquemada]

5 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

The new tech doesn't tell refs where to spot the ball. All it does is once the ball is spotted it tells them if it's a first down or not

 

That's exactly what I just said.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

11 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

Plus the whole video analytics to determine if the ball was past the line, but still letting the smooth brain refs place the ball is exactly backwards.  Place the ball with computer vision then bring out the chain gang.  

 

It's a matter of time before we're doing all officiating that way, and just let the refs announce the calls

Refs definitely will always have a place, but you’re right. It’s time to let technology handle certain things. Most importantly, the spot of the ball. Put a chip in there and be done with it. 
 

It’s not just because the Bills got shafted. I wouldn’t want my team to win on a terrible spot either. 

[BuffaloRebound]

Shakir was spotted short on that crazy josh flip pass when it looked clear he got the 1st down.  He landed on his butt and the ref inexplicably marked it back a yard as if his knee hit the ground.  That was a bad crew.  

Edited September 8 by BuffaloRebound