Absolutely Thrilled with the Win -- Who Do You Give THE Most Credit & Who Gets None?

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

35 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

According to what I have been seeing on the web, Ravens beat themselves....

Media speak is what that is. Not every team takes advantage of the opportunity.

[Big Turk]

McDermott needs a lot of credit...that wrestler personality of never allowing your shoulders to be pinned to the ground for 3 seconds is the exact personality this Bills team has in these situations...scrapping, clawing, never giving up, never allowing the other team a moment of respite...

[HIT BY SPIKES]

1 hour ago, Got 2 Billieve said:

I've been a die hard Bills fan for 35 years.  Went through the glory days of the 90's and the days of turmoil (2000-2016) and back again (2017-present).  When McDermott came here I was skeptical/critical about his decision making and lack thereof in big moments in games.  However it is time to put some respect on his name.  You really need to educate yourself about what is going on.  Longest active playoff drought in North American sports (at one point). This organization was dead to rights. We had to play games in Toronto in an attempt to become more relevant and generate more revenue.  It was so bad that Doug Marrone opted out of his contract to be an assistant with the Jaguars. Let that sink in for a second.  It was a real possibility we were relocating to Austin TX.  Sean came and has created a standard and a culture here that is almost unmatched around the league.  Just listen to players press conferences, especially those who left and came back who come back.  Most recently being Poyer and Phillips.  Sean and Beane are not prefect by any means but pay more attention to really what's going on.  Stop being the loudmouth uneducated Bills fan in Lot 4/Hammers Lot trying to chug as many beers as you can and open your eyes up to the big picture.  Learn and appreciate what it takes for grown men to buy into you and your vision.  Sean has created that. There are levels to this people. Tired of hearing those at the bottom level. Be good. Do good. GO Bills!

 

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

 

I remember being less than 10 years old and changing the channel on the old black & white TV with my toes since there were no remotes just to watch OJ run oh so pretty on an otherwise oh so crappy Bills teams.

 

So that means I am die hard Bills fan for over 50 years.

 

Do I win a prize in this dick measuring contest?

 

 

Edited September 8 by HIT BY SPIKES

[Luka]

1 hour ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

According to what I have been seeing on the web, Ravens beat themselves....

 

They are blaming Henry but Lamar had the ball and all they had to do was kill clock. Harbaugh and Lamar failed in the end. It was McDermott-esque. 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

Just now, Luka said:

 

They are blaming Henry but Lamar had the ball and all they had to do was kill clock. Harbaugh and Lamar failed in the end. It was McDermott-esque. 

 

 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

2 hours ago, Southern McButterpants said:

We old timers will still take 17-7 over the Phins in 1980. 

 

I can't specifically recall that game so I looked it up...

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

The defense was rough but mcd managed that game really well imo as far as gameday coaching goes.  We can probably nitpick the early go for two (although I think the analytics is shifting on that) but the clock/timeout management was pretty much masterclass.  If he was the gameday only coach of the ravens last night they win easily imo 

3 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

According to what I have been seeing on the web, Ravens beat themselves....

Idk how many times you can keep using that excuse for the same team lol 

[WNYFAN1]

Some credit definitely goes to Baltimore. No one blows late, double-digit leads like those guys.

[Buffalo Boy]

7 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

Most ==> JOSH ALLEN

 

None ==> SEAN McCOLLAPSY

Fact!!!

6 hours ago, transient said:

I give the most credit to the failed 2 pt conversions. If not for those bad decisions the Bills would’ve been up by a point with time running down and it would’ve been our defense getting torched for a walk off game winning FG. 

Sadly, you have a point

[HIT BY SPIKES]

11 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Some credit definitely goes to Baltimore. No one blows late, double-digit leads like those guys.

 

 

 

[transient]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Sadly, you have a point

I said to a friend of mine that having to get the ball back in Allen's hands prevented McDermott from crawling back into his familiar conservative defensive comfort zone with a 1 point lead. Basically, his bad decision making saved him from his bad decision making. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I'm just curious.  After the TD by Cook, it was 27-19.  Why go for 2 point conversion there ?

 

Why not just kick the extra point and have the score be 27-20 ?  Down by just 1 TD

 

Anybody know what McDermott was thinking ?

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

I think most pundits would agree that Baltimore has better players, and yet the Bills won. 

 

I'm not sure why Beane doesn't get some blame for not building a better roster.  

I'm not sure why McD doesn't get some credit for building a no-quit culture.  

 

Josh Allen built that culture, despite McD’s in game boneheadedness. 
 

Josh is the one who preaches and actually practices real accountability 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Josh Allen built that culture, despite McD’s in game boneheadedness. 
 

Josh is the one who preaches and actually practices real accountability 

 

Agreed

[Buffalo716]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Josh Allen built that culture, despite McD’s in game boneheadedness. 
 

Josh is the one who preaches and actually practices real accountability 

If from the top down this team did not respect McDermott they would have folded like a napkin 

 

Sean McDermott is tough and gritty and our team has displayed that for years.. you punch us we get up and punch you back in the mouth.. you think you have us pinned, we're about to reverse you... Never stopping always clawing 

 

Yeah Josh Allen is our Superstar Sean McDermott is a hell of a football coach.. you need to have the ability to have the guys rally around you and believe in your message .. even when the game is bleak 

 

And our defense came to play the last couple drives when we needed it.. if they didn't believe in McDermott and his message they would have folded like a wet paper bag

 

45 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm just curious.  After the TD by Cook, it was 27-19.  Why go for 2 point conversion there ?

 

Why not just kick the extra point and have the score be 27-20 ?  Down by just 1 TD

 

Anybody know what McDermott was thinking ?

he was probably thinking this game is a shootout and I don't know if I can get multiple stops 

 

If I can get one stop with this two-point conversion a touchdown an extra point wins the game 

 

he was playing to get out of there before overtime

[Don Otreply]

8 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

Most ==> JOSH ALLEN

 

None ==> SEAN McCOLLAPSY

I think if you really put your mind to it, you could make an even more lame post…,

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

43 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm just curious.  After the TD by Cook, it was 27-19.  Why go for 2 point conversion there ?

 

Why not just kick the extra point and have the score be 27-20 ?  Down by just 1 TD

 

Anybody know what McDermott was thinking ?

 

We only went for 2 after the Baltimore penalty on the PAT. 

 

They're looking at expected points added by the decision to go for PAT or 2. 

 

Kicking PAT: 95% success rate * 1 point = 0.95 expected points

2 pt conversion from the 2 yard line: 40% success rate * 2 points = 0.8 expected points

2 pt conversion from the 1 yard line: 60% success rate * 2 points = 1.2 expected points

 

You can tinker with the success rates, but that's the basic idea. 

[Shortchaz]

48 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm just curious.  After the TD by Cook, it was 27-19.  Why go for 2 point conversion there ?

 

Why not just kick the extra point and have the score be 27-20 ?  Down by just 1 TD

 

Anybody know what McDermott was thinking ?

When you’re down by two touchdowns and score one you go for two because it increases your chances (slightly, though your absolute chance is still low) of winning in regulation. 

[Got 2 Billieve]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Josh Allen built that culture, despite McD’s in game boneheadedness. 
 

Josh is the one who preaches and actually practices real accountability 

Wrong! McDermott came in and set the standard and vision of what type of football team he wants to run culture wise.  That's why they drafted Josh Allen.  Remember when the fans were upset because they said Allen instead of Rosen on draft night.  Having said that Josh is amazing and his values align with that vision which include being accountable and hardworking.  It's a collaborative effort.  That is what Sean excels at.  He certainly didn't excel in game management as a head coach for the first several seasons as we all know.  He was all about culture and what type of organization he envisions.  

[Southern McButterpants]

49 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm just curious.  After the TD by Cook, it was 27-19.  Why go for 2 point conversion there ?

 

Why not just kick the extra point and have the score be 27-20 ?  Down by just 1 TD

 

Anybody know what McDermott was thinking ?

There was a Baltimore penalty on the PAT. Ball goes to the 1 (half the distance) yard line if you want to try for 2. So they took the point off the board and tried for 2. That was the one where Coleman was OOB.