I don't EVER want to hear ANYONE say that Lamar is better than Josh Allen EVER AGAIN!!

[Dan in Owego]

30 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Was that a designed call or did he just recognize an opportunity and take it?

I never saw a replay and was watching the secondary instead of C/G at the snap.

He saw the middle open up and just did his thing, lot of wiggle in that man, you really need to see the replay.

[MJS]

36 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Because he doesn't perform great in the playoffs means he's mentally soft and he's a quitter is what you're implying?

 

I guess Peyton manning must have been mentally soft and a quitter as well, as his playoff success before age 30 was poor

Call it what you want, be he wilts in the big moments and the playoffs when it counts. He does not seem to handle adversity well, or have the ability to lead his teammates through it. Josh Allen is much better in all these aspects.

 

It's why Lamar Jackson will never get past Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes to get to the superbowl.

[BillsFan130]

17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Josh breaks a hand, never misses a beat.

I believe he played through a bad elbow for a while too.

Mahomes, multiple leg injuires, never misses a snap.

 

Oliver hits Jackson, cant play crucial 4th down.

Jackson gets tackled hard down 30-17, walks off and leaves game.

Doesnt have a new contract, let's Huntly play in playoffs.

 

Just some good-natured ribbing that when he comes back "early" after next week instead of 2-3 weeks, most of us will know he wasnt that injured, and you'll be in the group that is amazed by what a competitor he is to come back early. All good. Go Bills! 

If he plays next week, I'll take the L and I'll admit I'm wrong.

 

If he doesn't play, then you take the L and admit you were wrong . (As there's no way the ravens would sit him when they are 1-3 if he's not actually hurt)

 

Deal?

10 minutes ago, MJS said:

Call it what you want, be he wilts in the big moments and the playoffs when it counts. He does not seem to handle adversity well, or have the ability to lead his teammates through it. Josh Allen is much better in all these aspects.

 

It's why Lamar Jackson will never get past Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes to get to the superbowl.

How does this have anything to do with faking or exaggerating an injury? Lol. Let's stay on topic here bud as you're going down a rabbit hole with this.

 

im not sure why in multiple posts people are bringing up Josh in this conversation and playoff performances. All I said was he's not faking or exaggerating an injury

Edited Tuesday at 09:31 PM by BillsFan130

[MJS]

56 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

How does this have anything to do with faking or exaggerating an injury? Lol. Let's stay on topic here bud as you're going down a rabbit hole with this.

 

im not sure why in multiple posts people are bringing up Josh in this conversation and playoff performances. All I said was he's not faking or exaggerating an injury

It relates to the post I replied to about being mentally soft in the playoffs (and the entire thread).

 

I'm not going down any rabbit hole. I'm replying to the exact content of the reply and thread. I have not mentioned his injury or made any claims either way about his injury. I know you have, but there are other aspects being discussed here besides that.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, MJS said:

It relates to the post I replied to about being mentally soft in the playoffs (and the entire thread).

 

I'm not going down any rabbit hole. I'm replying to the exact content of the reply and thread. I have not mentioned his injury or made any claims either way about his injury. I know you have, but there are other aspects being discussed here besides that.

Fair, my apologies  as I did get sidetracked replying to comments that weren't really related to what I said.

 

All I was saying was Lamar isn't faking an injury. And somehow that comment got twisted to a conversation about "Lamar not being good in the playoffs" and comparing him to Josh/Mahomes

[MJS]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Fair, my apologies  as I did get sidetracked replying to comments that weren't really related to what I said.

 

All I was saying was Lamar isn't faking an injury. And somehow that comment got twisted to a conversation about "Lamar not being good in the playoffs" and comparing him to Josh/Mahomes

I doubt he is faking an injury. I don't know how or why that narrative got started.

[julian]

Lamar is all about his stats, and irregardless of the narrative to the opposite, Lamar wants the MVPs badly and for that reason I never believed for moment that he pulled himself out of the game.

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

I doubt he is faking an injury. I don't know how or why that narrative got started.

Agreed. That's all I was trying to say before the conversation on the previous page got sidetracked

[boyst]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Disagree. It was a crazy thought ImO and this report that he's hurt backs it up.

 

The point is: To win multiple mvps in the national football league and to have the success he has had you have to be ultra talented AND ultra competitive.

 

You can't be mentally soft and have the success that he has had In arguably the most violent sport in the world.

Ultra competitive until he chokes. He has had padded stats, he has played against some lower tier opponents and crushes it. Then flops against successs.

 

Remember when he was hurt and couldn't play so Tyler Huntley took them to the playoffs?  He wasn't hurt. 

[ColoradoBills]

 

[BillsFan130]

44 minutes ago, boyst said:

Ultra competitive until he chokes. He has had padded stats, he has played against some lower tier opponents and crushes it. Then flops against successs.

 

Remember when he was hurt and couldn't play so Tyler Huntley took them to the playoffs?  He wasn't hurt. 

Again- No idea how him not playing well in the playoffs has anything to do with faking an injury.

Show me any credible source that Lamar Jackson wasn't actual hurt when Tyler Huntley started that playoff year. I'll wait.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

If he plays next week, I'll take the L and I'll admit I'm wrong.

 

If he doesn't play, then you take the L and admit you were wrong . (As there's no way the ravens would sit him when they are 1-3 if he's not actually hurt)

 

Deal?

 

Who knows how long he'll keep up this charade as he collects his $260M! 

 

Next week being the Rams game? Because he's definitely missing the Texans game to prove his point.

 

There's no telling. Like I've said, I believe he has a tweaked hammy. I just also believe that its an "injury that Josh, Mahomes, Cousins, Hurts, pretty much every other QB except maybe Richardson would play through. Everyone has dings and tweaks this time of year. No one else is pulling themselves out of games over them.

 

3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

How does this have anything to do with faking or exaggerating an injury? Lol. Let's stay on topic here bud as you're going down a rabbit hole with this.

 

im not sure why in multiple posts people are bringing up Josh in this conversation and playoff performances. All I said was he's not faking or exaggerating an injury

 

I mean, the title of this thread is about comparing Lamar and Josh. The whole recent "injury" discussion is new and a tangent of this thread.

[CSBill]

5 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Me

just kidding

I don't care. 

 

Ditto

[BillsFan130]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Who knows how long he'll keep up this charade as he collects his $260M! 

 

Next week being the Rams game? Because he's definitely missing the Texans game to prove his point.

 

There's no telling. Like I've said, I believe he has a tweaked hammy. I just also believe that its an "injury that Josh, Mahomes, Cousins, Hurts, pretty much every other QB except maybe Richardson would play through. Everyone has dings and tweaks this time of year. No one else is pulling themselves out of games over them.

 

 

I mean, the title of this thread is about comparing Lamar and Josh. The whole recent "injury" discussion is new and a tangent of this thread.

I understand. If you want to talk about Josh Vs Lamar and playoff success in this thread that's totally fair. I just don't know why it was brought up to me when my comment was on Lamar isn't faking an injury.

 

But A hammy pull is a hammy pull. That's not a bump or bruise. Josh or any nfl player would also be missing time with a pulled hamstring.  Theres nothing you can do to push through with that injury 

Edited Wednesday at 12:44 AM by BillsFan130

[Simon]

4 hours ago, Dan in Owego said:

He saw the middle open up and just did his thing, lot of wiggle in that man, you really need to see the replay.

 

I saw what he did to the safety on the run (muahahahaha), just wasn't sure if the IOL had left teh LOS for him.

[DapperCam]

22 hours ago, boyst said:

yes. i called it already.

 

they'll do this so he saves face.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/10/01/lamar-jackson-injury-status-hamstring-try-to-play-texans/86458418007/

 

Now, I’m not saying they made up an injury designation to save face. But him gutting it out and playing this week is what that would look like.

[May Day 10]

How heroic!

[RunTheBall]

He will do the Patrick Mahomes fake limp then take off for 30 yards in a sprint

 

Doesn’t matter what we think about him faking it or not. It’s his teammates opinion that really matters, and there is already some bad juju going on in that locker room. 

[DapperCam]

I’m willing to accept the possibility that he’s had a lingering injury this whole season. How many sacks has he taken this season? He looks a step slower than in the past.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

I’m willing to accept the possibility that he’s had a lingering injury this whole season. How many sacks has he taken this season? He looks a step slower than in the past.

It's week 4 in a contact sport where he runs a lot and is quite agile. It's easy to factor in him being hurt.  He ain't injured