Dion Dawkins contract restructure

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

If we were a top 3 team over 5 years you think we would have made one Super Bowl.

Not when the top team keeps beating you, though.

[Shortchaz]

6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Ed has nothing to restructure this season.  The next 2 years they can get a lot of cap out of his salary.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29044/ed-oliver

The problem with his contract is he’s underperforming it. We have a few guys like that, epenessa, Knox, Milano, jones, Samuel, to name a few. We need more guys outperforming their contract than guys underperforming if we’re going to win this thing. 

[White Linen]

1 hour ago, Shortchaz said:

The problem with his contract is he’s underperforming it. We have a few guys like that, epenessa, Knox, Milano, jones, Samuel, to name a few. We need more guys outperforming their contract than guys underperforming if we’re going to win this thing. 

 

You need to consider a team needs players to develop and earn their next contract, instead of a revolving door.  We have more players that have done that, than you mention in your post as "underperforming".

[Dan Darragh]

21 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I think they might have done this last week to be under the cap at cutdowns and it has only been announced now. Because my maths had then over the cap. 

Gunner, I know they say "maths" in the UK so you're forgiven for that.

 

But do you actually keep a running tab on the Bills' salary cap?  This is borderline daft (as they say in the UK)

[twoandfourteen]

6 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

You need to consider a team needs players to develop and earn their next contract, instead of a revolving door.  We have more players that have done that, than you mention in your post as "underperforming".

 

This team is riddled with early round draft busts and expensive, underperforming (or nonexistent) Free Agent signings. 

 

The roster is full of holes and there are very few (if any)  true “blue chip” players outside of the alien under center. Meanwhile, the “big baller” genius GM has zero cap space because he keeps handing out big bags to his mediocre JAGs. 

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Gunner, I know they say "maths" in the UK so you're forgiven for that.

 

But do you actually keep a running tab on the Bills' salary cap?  This is borderline daft (as they say in the UK)

 

Ha. No. I was looking for something else at the weekend and just while I was around on Spotrac I happened to look and a bit of back of a packet math(s) I had them about $5m over.

Edited September 4 by GunnerBill

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

This team is riddled with early round draft busts and expensive, underperforming (or nonexistent) Free Agent signings. 

 

The roster is full of holes and there are very few (if any)  true “blue chip” players outside of the alien under center. Meanwhile, the “big baller” genius GM has zero cap space because he keeps handing out big bags to his mediocre JAGs. 

What “holes” do we have?

 

OL is elite. 
QB is elite. 
RB room is above average.

 

TE room they’re counting on a big year from Kincaid, a former RD1 pick in his 3rd year.   Have a good TE2 in Knox and the best blocking TE in the recent draft. 
 

WR room they are counting on a breakout year 2 for the first pick of the 2nd round.  Brought in Palmer, the analytics darling Free Agent (and the Bills are a heavy analytics team).  Have Shakir in the slot.   Samuel as WR4.  Moore as slot depth. Shavers as WR6 and Gabe Davis rehabbing on the PS. 
 

DL added Bosa to Oliver and Rousseau.  Drafted a RD2 DT, RD3 EDGE and RD4 DT.  Sign Hoecht to a multi-year deal and Ogunjobi as vet rotational depth.   Unfortunately they’re suspended six games.  Hoecht is legit though.  
 

LB’s are a good tandem in Bernard and Milano with Williams and Thompson as depth.

 

Taron in the slot.  Benford outside with a RD1 CB we hope to get back in the field later this season.  Drafted another CB late and have Tre as vet depth.   Unfortunately that depth is already being tested. 
 

Safety, they love Rapp and were always going to give Bishop year 2 to prove himself like Bernard did.   The depth could certainly be better.. Hancock aside, as he seems like he might be something down the line. 
 

You might not like some of these players but to say we have all these holes is not the criticism I’d levy against Beane.  
 

Lack of blue chip talent, sure.  But roster holes.. nah, that’s not it. 

[Dan Darragh]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Ha. No. I was looking for something else at the weekend and just while I was around on Spotrac I happened to look and a bit of back of a packet math(s) I had them about $5m over.

I think you mean back of the envelope.

[twoandfourteen]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

What “holes” do we have?

 

OL is elite. 
QB is elite. 
RB room is above average.

 

TE room they’re counting on a big year from Kincaid, a former RD1 pick in his 3rd year.   Have a good TE2 in Knox and the best blocking TE in the recent draft. 
 

WR room they are counting on a breakout year 2 for the first pick of the 2nd round.  Brought in Palmer, the analytics darling Free Agent (and the Bills are a heavy analytics team).  Have Shakir in the slot.   Samuel as WR4.  Moore as slot depth. Shavers as WR6 and Gabe Davis rehabbing on the PS. 
 

DL added Bosa to Oliver and Rousseau.  Drafted a RD2 DT, RD3 EDGE and RD4 DT.  Sign Hoecht to a multi-year deal and Ogunjobi as vet rotational depth.   Unfortunately they’re suspended six games.  Hoecht is legit though.  
 

LB’s are a good tandem in Bernard and Milano with Williams and Thompson as depth.

 

Taron in the slot.  Benford outside with a RD1 CB we hope to get back in the field later this season.  Drafted another CB late and have Tre as vet depth.   Unfortunately that depth is already being tested. 
 

Safety, they love Rapp and were always going to give Bishop year 2 to prove himself like Bernard did.   The depth could certainly be better.. Hancock aside, as he seems like he might be something down the line. 
 

You might not like some of these players but to say we have all these holes is not the criticism I’d levy against Beane.  
 

Lack of blue chip talent, sure.  But roster holes.. nah, that’s not it. 

 

You’re counting on a whole bunch of things to go right, my friend. 

 

The Chiefs are  “counting” on Chris Jones. 

The Bengals are “counting” on Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. 

The Ravens are “counting” on Derrick Henry and their elite secondary. 

The Eagles are “counting” on Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown, and a deadly pass rush. 

 

You and Beane are “counting” on Dalton Kincaid, Keon Coleman, and Cole Bishop.

 

I know where I would put my money.

 

 

[boyst]

12 hours ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

So you’re just going to ignore the past seven seasons where Kelce built his Hall of Fame career with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid? All those rings and SB appearances don’t count. Got it. 

 

"Critical thinking” — give it a try sometime. 

 

I don’t care about those other teams. I care about this team that is wasting the best years of arguably one of the best ever football players in NFL history. 

 

 

Kelce is one of the most overrated players in the last 15 years.  Yes, he has a ton of yards and done great for catching as a TE. But he hasn't done crap for blocking as a TE. He's also been the #1 or #2 option on his team year in and year our since the few years with Hill. Sure, he will make the HOF because it's the Hall of Cool and douchebags think he's the ultimate Chad.

 

He's a pompous over celebrated douche who is now more famous because he's engaged to a billionaire celebrity. 

[Mat68]

This isn't for any surprise move.  Allows Buffalo to function through the season with call ups and in season signings.  

[SCBills]

35 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

You’re counting on a whole bunch of things to go right, my friend. 

 

The Chiefs are  “counting” on Chris Jones. 

The Bengals are “counting” on Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. 

The Ravens are “counting” on Derrick Henry and their elite secondary. 

The Eagles are “counting” on Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown, and a deadly pass rush. 

 

You and Beane are “counting” on Dalton Kincaid, Keon Coleman, and Cole Bishop.

 

I know where I would put my money.

 

 

Im counting on Josh Allen and our elite OL. 
 

Amazing how when you have a bad OL, it’s always a topic.   When we have one of the best, yall who want to tear down the roster before we’ve even played a game, don’t count that. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

I think you mean back of the envelope.

 

I actually meant back if a shorthand for cigarette packet but that was starred out!

[nuklz2594]

21 hours ago, NoSaint said:

the bills did come due. Last year. 
 

Thats what the bill coming due feels like unless you do something drastic and it flops spectacularly (aka browns with Watson)

nah- he needs a pay cut or to progress towards release. Restructuring locks him in at his high price 

Hearing good things about Hawes. Could he be a cheaper knox?

[Ralonzo]

12 hours ago, MJS said:

I've noticed that every person who claims to be a realist is, in fact, a pessimist.

What does this tell you about the nature of reality?

[MJS]

53 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

What does this tell you about the nature of reality?

Absolutely nothing. Because pessimists view reality through a pessimistic lense, not a realistic lense. And they do the same with the Bills. They are not realists.

[Ralonzo]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Absolutely nothing. Because pessimists view reality through a pessimistic lense, not a realistic lense. And they do the same with the Bills. They are not realists.

 

There's 2 types of people - those who tailor their beliefs to fit reality, and those who tailor reality to fit their beliefs.

[somnus00]

On 9/3/2025 at 6:29 AM, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I thought maybe Myles Garrett was having a last-minute change of heart ughhhhhh 😭

I hear he wants to play for a winner. Money doesn't matter to him. 

[Mister Defense]

8 million!!

 

Get the two best corner backs available.

 

[26TrapDraw]

On 9/3/2025 at 6:35 AM, boyst said:

inb4 we sign someone big 3 days before a game lol

 

justin simmons is still out there lol

yeah this one was a head scratcher until I heard McDermott basically tell Bishop to pull his head out of his ass and do his job. Curious how this plays out. Hoping Coach Po can teach bishop how to play right