Bills cuts discussion

[Avisan]

Just now, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Does this mean Hairston is officially out for the first 4 games? 

Yeah, can't return until Week 5.

[boyst]

58 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

The Ravens to me are the biggest disappointment. That teams has gobs of talent by far the most talented team in the AFC and they can’t break through the Chiefs either 

Harbaugh has to be on a thin string to have not got more juice from that team. It's a travesty they get embarrassed by KC every year and never push us over. 

[Lost]

Wait, the Bills signed Jordan Phillips 2 days ago and now released him? 😄

[Avisan]

Just now, Lost said:

Wait, the Bills signed Jordan Phillips 2 days ago and now released him? 😄

Yes-- he'll be on the Practice Squad.  He was signed to allow him to start working out etc. at the team facilities prior to creation of the Practice Squad post-cuts.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, Lost said:

Wait, the Bills signed Jordan Phillips 2 days ago and now released him? 😄

Yeah kind of weird.  Not sure why they couldn't just sign him to PS later. I don't think there is a cap advantage to do this, but maybe there is.

[PrimeTime101]

5 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Does this mean Hairston is officially out for the first 4 games? 

yes

[HappyDays]

Only real surprise to me is that they kept 6 WRs. The last time they did that it was for Andre Roberts who was as much a WR as Brandon Codrington is a CB. I'm thinking Elijah Moore may be a mainstay on the gameday inactive list as the last WR on the depth chart and no special teams contribution. I think he'll be here as Samuel and Shakir's backup.

[Lost]

2 minutes ago, Avisan said:

Yes-- he'll be on the Practice Squad.  He was signed to allow him to start working out etc. at the team facilities prior to creation of the Practice Squad post-cuts.

 

Just weird because the rumors going around were that he was going to make the 53 and Dewayne Carter was getting axed.

[17islongenough]

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Yeah kind of weird.  Not sure why they couldn't just sign him to PS later. I don't think there is a cap advantage to do this, but maybe there is.

Just two extra days of practice 

[HappyDays]

Also worth noting that Tre White is NOT on IR so now we know the injury is not long term. Doesn't mean for sure he'll be ready for week 1 though. We'll see.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I'm a little surprised that they kept both Shavers and Moore. I know theyre very different players

[RyanC883]

almost put Forrest in my "suprise cut" list.   Really suprised he got cut, but didn't watch much this preseason.  We are REALLY thin in the secondary.  

[BillsFanForever19]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Also worth noting that Tre White is NOT on IR so now we know the injury is not long term. Doesn't mean for sure he'll be ready for week 1 though. We'll see.

 

I'd imagine they'll add Dane Jackson to the Practice Squad and if he's not ready by Week 1 or 2, they'll call him up to go alongside Christian Benford, Ja'Marcus Ingram, and Dorian Strong.

[NeverOutNick]

Man I wish someone could’ve beat out Hamlin or Lewis not to mention why did Dwayne Carter or Curtis Samuel stay on the squad when they’ve done absolutely nothing. 

[Avisan]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

almost put Forrest in my "suprise cut" list.   Really suprised he got cut, but didn't watch much this preseason.  We are REALLY thin in the secondary.  

Thin in what way?  Genuine question, we seem to have the appropriate number of bodies with a mix of veteran/early-career/developmental players.  Our backups aren't world-beaters, but backups rarely are.

[RyanC883]

43 minutes ago, Logic said:

So far, every Bills cut has pretty much been expected.

Has there been a single surprise cut yet?
 

 

S. Forrest kind of given depth at safety?  But overall, yeah, no real like "oh my gosh".  

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

almost put Forrest in my "suprise cut" list.   Really suprised he got cut, but didn't watch much this preseason.  We are REALLY thin in the secondary.  

Hoping McDermott and Babich are going to lean into hybrid types of secondary deployment.
 

Johnson, Ingram, Lewis, Hancock, and to a degree Bishop can each contribute in multiple roles. 

[RyanC883]

Just now, Avisan said:

Thin in what way?  Genuine question, we seem to have the appropriate number of bodies with a mix of veteran/early-career/developmental players.  Our backups aren't world-beaters, but backups rarely are.

 

The room is Bishop, Hamlin, Hancock and Rapp.  The first 3 are #3's, not starters.  And one of them will be starting with Rapp.  Hancock has some potential, but is a rookie.  Bishop has not shown anything in real games.  Just too many ???.  

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

almost put Forrest in my "suprise cut" list.   Really suprised he got cut, but didn't watch much this preseason.  We are REALLY thin in the secondary.  

 

Not even a little bit of a surprise. We brought back everyone from last year's Safety room. Jordan Hancock showed a quick aptitude for Safety.

 

And Hamlin's contract was fully guaranteed. Cutting him would result in a 750k loss in general Cap and 2 million in Dead Cap. Plus, regardless of how fans feel about him, McDermott trusts him.

 

Forrest was a longshot to begin with. When they Drafted Hancock and started playing him at Safety, it was all over.

[RyanC883]

Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Hoping McDermott and Babich are going to lean into hybrid types of secondary deployment.
 

Johnson, Ingram, Lewis, Hancock, and to a degree Bishop can each contribute in multiple roles. 

 

we do have a lot of CBs.  

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Not even a little bit of a surprise. We brought back everyone from last year's Safety room. Jordan Hancock showed a quick aptitude for Safety.

 

And Hamlin's contract was fully guaranteed. Cutting him would result in a 750k loss in general Cap and 2 million in Dead Cap. Plus, regardless of how fans feel about him, McDermott trusts him.

 

Forrest was a longshot to begin with. When they Drafted Hancock and started playing him at Safety, it was all over.

 

I guess I figured given that Bishop did not really show a ton in preseason, they'd keep a vet on.  I mean, I really am not upset Forrest is gone, just figured another vet back there.