pennstate10 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? Quote
K-9 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 16 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? A vested vet cut from the practice squad is not subject to waivers as he becomes a free agent upon release. 1 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? Who do you have in mind? 51 minutes ago, K-9 said: A vested vet cut from the practice squad is not subject to waivers as he becomes a free agent upon release. If he's not subject to waivers, why must he wear a vest? Also, what if he refuses to wear the vest? Does he still retain his free agent status? 2 Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 27 Posted July 27 3 hours ago, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? Any practice squad player can be signed by any team. If more than one team offers him, he can choose whichever he wants. He could even choose to remain on the PS with his current team (though almost no player would chose that). Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 6 hours ago, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? If a vested vet with 4 or more accrued seasons is released from an ACTIVE roster (say at final cut downs) they are not subject to waivers and if two teams approached them to sign to their Practice Squad it is entirely their choice where to sign. This is the case up to the trade dealine. After the deadline even vested vets are subject to waivers, however, if you claim a guy off waivers you have to put him on your 53. You can't claim him off waivers for your practice squad. So if nobody claims the vet for their 53 and he then has two practice squad offers it is entirely his choice where to sign. Two further points that might be relevant for the OP to consider: - vested vets released FROM a Practice Squad are never subject to waivers (even after trade deadline); and - only six of the sixteen players on a practice squad at any one time can be vested vets. 1 Quote
Augie Posted July 27 Posted July 27 11 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: If he's not subject to waivers, why must he wear a vest? Also, what if he refuses to wear the vest? Does he still retain his free agent status? I believe this is called The @Jauronimo Rule, named so for his deep love of vests. 2 Quote
chris heff Posted July 27 Posted July 27 12 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Who do you have in mind? If he's not subject to waivers, why must he wear a vest? Also, what if he refuses to wear the vest? Does he still retain his free agent status? Depends on the vest, is it a cool suede one with fringe or is it tweed, you know the kind a guy that smokes a pipe would wear? 1 Quote
pennstate10 Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: If a vested vet with 4 or more accrued seasons is released from an ACTIVE roster (say at final cut downs) they are not subject to waivers and if two teams approached them to sign to their Practice Squad it is entirely their choice where to sign. This is the case up to the trade dealine. After the deadline even vested vets are subject to waivers, however, if you claim a guy off waivers you have to put him on your 53. You can't claim him off waivers for your practice squad. So if nobody claims the vet for their 53 and he then has two practice squad offers it is entirely his choice where to sign. Two further points that might be relevant for the OP to consider: - vested vets released FROM a Practice Squad are never subject to waivers (even after trade deadline); and - only six of the sixteen players on a practice squad at any one time can be vested vets. Thanks, good explanation. I know about the 6 vets maximum. I think there are a few instances where this might become relevant for Bills at cutdown day, where Bills have 2 players that they want to keep, a vet and a rookie, but don’t have room for both. Probably wiser to cut the vet (Jackson) and keep the rookie (Strong). I think Jackson would rather sign with Bills than other teams, given familiarity with organization and a Super Bowl contender. 1 Quote
johnnychemo Posted July 27 Posted July 27 15 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Who do you have in mind? If he's not subject to waivers, why must he wear a vest? Also, what if he refuses to wear the vest? Does he still retain his free agent status? I believe sport coats are acceptable, unless you wear a turtleneck. 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 16 hours ago, K-9 said: A vested vet cut from the practice squad is not subject to waivers as he becomes a free agent upon release. 15 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: If he's not subject to waivers, why must he wear a vest? Also, what if he refuses to wear the vest? Does he still retain his free agent status? 4 hours ago, Augie said: I believe this is called The @Jauronimo Rule, named so for his deep love of vests. 3 hours ago, chris heff said: Depends on the vest, is it a cool suede one with fringe or is it tweed, you know the kind a guy that smokes a pipe would wear? 39 minutes ago, johnnychemo said: I believe sport coats are acceptable, unless you wear a turtleneck. Setting aside for the moment, the turtleneck corollary, I'm wondering about cardigans. They're arguably vests too so if a veteran is wearing a cardigan, wouldn't he then technically be vested and therefore a free agent? AI doesn't seem to be very useful in this instance. 1 Quote
chris heff Posted July 27 Posted July 27 26 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Setting aside for the moment, the turtleneck corollary, I'm wondering about cardigans. They're arguably vests too so if a veteran is wearing a cardigan, wouldn't he then technically be vested and therefore a free agent? AI doesn't seem to be very useful in this instance. This is not complicated a cardigan has sleeves, it’s what to wear to get comfortable when you get home from work. You keep your tie on, remove suit jacket and don the cardigan. Think Ozzie Nelson. A vest is sleeveless, it can come in many different styles and have many uses. For example the aforementioned Ozzie could wear a vest with a shirt and tie, Mr. T on the other hand could wear a vest without either a shirt or tie. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 27 Posted July 27 2 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Thanks, good explanation. I know about the 6 vets maximum. I think there are a few instances where this might become relevant for Bills at cutdown day, where Bills have 2 players that they want to keep, a vet and a rookie, but don’t have room for both. Probably wiser to cut the vet (Jackson) and keep the rookie (Strong). I think Jackson would rather sign with Bills than other teams, given familiarity with organization and a Super Bowl contender. another one similar is they may keep the rookie OT and take a chance on VanDermark getting to the PS Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, chris heff said: This is not complicated a cardigan has sleeves, it’s what to wear to get comfortable when you get home from work. You keep your tie on, remove suit jacket and don the cardigan. Think Ozzie Nelson. A vest is sleeveless, it can come in many different styles and have many uses. For example the aforementioned Ozzie could wear a vest with a shirt and tie, Mr. T on the other hand could wear a vest without either a shirt or tie. You're right. Thinking back to last year I now recall that Tyrell Shavers was included in the final cuts and wasn't considered vested. I believe he was wearing a cardigan when he was released so that's consistent with what you're saying. Cardigan ≠ Vest Thanks! 👍 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 6 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Thanks, good explanation. I know about the 6 vets maximum. I think there are a few instances where this might become relevant for Bills at cutdown day, where Bills have 2 players that they want to keep, a vet and a rookie, but don’t have room for both. Probably wiser to cut the vet (Jackson) and keep the rookie (Strong). I think Jackson would rather sign with Bills than other teams, given familiarity with organization and a Super Bowl contender. Happened a few years ago with AJ Klein. They kept the young guys, cut Klein and put Klein on the PS. They then cut him from there later only to recall him at the end of the year from his sofa. Quote
K-9 Posted July 27 Posted July 27 7 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Setting aside for the moment, the turtleneck corollary, I'm wondering about cardigans. They're arguably vests too so if a veteran is wearing a cardigan, wouldn't he then technically be vested and therefore a free agent? AI doesn't seem to be very useful in this instance. Cardigans are just a vestigial artifact of fashions gone by. Mine has been hanging on the coat rack in the vestibule for years and just looking at it can cause a vestibular migraine. I find it better to invest in more up to date sweater fashions nowadays. 1 Quote
Captain Caveman Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) On 7/26/2025 at 7:33 PM, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? Any player who is not signed to a roster can choose any practice squad spot they are offered at that point (typically will be with the team they've been with, but sometimes they will choose a team they feel they have a better shot at making.) Waivers don't apply to vested vets, but also don't apply to practice squads. A team can't claim a player on waivers and put them on the practice squad, they'd have to go to the active roster. Also, once signed to a team's practice squad, they can't jump to another team's practice squad, only to the active roster (and I think they have to be held on the active roster for at least three weeks.) Edited July 27 by Captain Caveman Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 28 Posted July 28 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Cardigans are just a vestigial artifact of fashions gone by. Mine has been hanging on the coat rack in the vestibule for years and just looking at it can cause a vestibular migraine. I find it better to invest in more up to date sweater fashions nowadays. You know, I've been getting headaches! Thing is, my cardigan was a hand-me-down from a dearly-departed family member so I cant just get rid of it... maybe I'll put it in a garment bag and see what happens... Quote
djp14150 Posted July 28 Posted July 28 On 7/26/2025 at 7:33 PM, pennstate10 said: If a vested vet gets offers from 2 different teams, is he free to choose the team he wants? Or does this go in waiver order, and he needs to take the offer from the team higher on the waiver list? NFL Vets are not subject to league waivers and can choose not to go to another team if on the PS Quote
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