Landon Jackson put on PUP List

[Jon in Pasadena]

On 7/15/2025 at 3:27 PM, Mark Vader said:

I've been at this board a lot longer than you. I know what happens here.

 

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 12:56 AM by Jon in Pasadena

[Shaw66]

4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I will say it's paramount that Jackson can out perform the numbers AJ put up in his first 2 seasons. I realize that's not a very high bar.  We have yet to hit on a great pass rusher since 2018. If we want to win a Lombardi we gotta put #15 down.  Josh can guarantee you 30 pts every playoff game v KC, but it doesn't mean we're winning.

I think you overstate a lot here, but the basic point is correct: The Bills' most consistently problematic area has been pass rush. Better performance there could have meant a Lombardi or two.  

 

I don't think it's a crisis, but the Bills need be better getting after the QB.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I think you overstate a lot here, but the basic point is correct: The Bills' most consistently problematic area has been pass rush. Better performance there could have meant a Lombardi or two.  

 

I don't think it's a crisis, but the Bills need be better getting after the QB.

What's overstated?  Don't we want Landon to out perform somebody like AJE?  Isn't that something we should be rooting for?  Or is the goal just process, depth, rotational stability?  When we strive to draft pass rushers, we're also hoping they evolve into a game-wrecker like Bruce.  Mahomes/Reid are the crisis. And we've failed to stop them.  I'm convinced we definitely would've won at least one if not 2 championships if that dominant pass rusher existed.  That can't be overstated.....

[Sierra Foothills]

On 7/15/2025 at 5:56 PM, Ray Finkel said:

Fire the strengh and conditioning coach.  

 

Also, the spelling coach.

 

18 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Joey Bosa already rubbing off on him.

 

18 hours ago, hikerprof2 said:

What exactly do you mean there?

 

You didn't hear?

 

Bosa is "mentoring" him.

 

16 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Hopefully not another rubber mat injury.  They're so dangerous!

 

Especially when combined with jet skis.

 

13 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

There is no shame on any level anymore, 

 

Well that's a relief... now maybe I'll be able to sleep at night.

 

[machine gun kelly]

21 hours ago, MJS said:

Did they say this was the case with Jackson or just that this thing is common and COULD be the case?

MJS, Pat Kirwan the previous executive and coach stated it’s a common occurrence, but they kept it away from the media to respect the rookie’s privacy.  He additionally mentioned a weak front office or HC would buckle.  His point was to prove a rookie that hes now a professional athlete and must act in accordance with their standard.

 

He did NOT indicate anything about a Bills player.   Im not  calling the sky is falling as i hate the chicken little examples every once in awhile.  My point is it was just too coincidental the next day Jackson goes on pup and never had a report during voluntary or mandatory mini camps any even slight i jury.  The league mandates reporting these injuries.

 

i don’t think it s a big deal.  Maybe he just let himself go a little in the dead month.  Maybe not.  Im not indicting him, just stating it makes sense.  This is why im not worried about it at all.  Its not easy to run for example 15 gassers and have to maintain a certain time.

[4th&long]

Who the hell is Landon Jackson? He's just a rookie and never played a down in the NFL. 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

MJS, Pat Kirwan the previous executive and coach stated it’s a common occurrence, but they kept it away from the media to respect the rookie’s privacy.  He additionally mentioned a weak front office or HC would buckle.  His point was to prove a rookie that hes now a professional athlete and must act in accordance with their standard.

 

He did NOT indicate anything about a Bills player.   Im not  calling the sky is falling as i hate the chicken little examples every once in awhile.  My point is it was just too coincidental the next day Jackson goes on pup and never had a report during voluntary or mandatory mini camps any even slight i jury.  The league mandates reporting these injuries.

 

i don’t think it s a big deal.  Maybe he just let himself go a little in the dead month.  Maybe not.  Im not indicting him, just stating it makes sense.  This is why im not worried about it at all.  Its not easy to run for example 15 gassers and have to maintain a certain time.

Well, this was not the case. It is injury related.

[Shaw66]

9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

What's overstated?  Don't we want Landon to out perform somebody like AJE?  Isn't that something we should be rooting for?  Or is the goal just process, depth, rotational stability?  When we strive to draft pass rushers, we're also hoping they evolve into a game-wrecker like Bruce.  Mahomes/Reid are the crisis. And we've failed to stop them.  I'm convinced we definitely would've won at least one if not 2 championships if that dominant pass rusher existed.  That can't be overstated.....

As I said, I agree with your conclusion - pass rush is the paramount problem. That's not overstated. 

 

You overstate the importance of Reid/Mahomes.  The Chiefs are far from the only threat. Building to beat the Chiefs is a mistake.  The Bills have to be able to beat the Ravens, beat the Eagles, beat the Rams, and beat whichever other teams emerge. 

 

You overstate when you say Josh guarantees 30 points against the Chiefs. 

 

You overstate that it's paramount that Jackson outdo Epenesa's numbers. Jackson is not the only possible answer to enhanced pass rush. 

 

That's all overstated. 

[uticaclub]

31 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

As I said, I agree with your conclusion - pass rush is the paramount problem. That's not overstated. 

 

You overstate the importance of Reid/Mahomes.  The Chiefs are far from the only threat. Building to beat the Chiefs is a mistake.  The Bills have to be able to beat the Ravens, beat the Eagles, beat the Rams, and beat whichever other teams emerge. 

 

You overstate when you say Josh guarantees 30 points against the Chiefs. 

 

You overstate that it's paramount that Jackson outdo Epenesa's numbers. Jackson is not the only possible answer to enhanced pass rush. 

 

That's all overstated. 

So our season depends on a 3rd round rookie outperforming a 6 year vet this regime drafted in the 2nd round? Our defense is going to be really bad, isn’t it?

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

So our season depends on a 3rd round rookie outperforming a 6 year vet this regime drafted in the 2nd round? Our defense is going to be really bad, isn’t it?

So much doom and gloom about our defense..

 

Im not willing to entertain that because with all they invested on that side of the ball, while basically telling Josh Allen he can have a good OL and then figure it out.. they better be good. 
 

TJ Sanders is easily, from a talent/potential perspective, right there with Ed Oliver as best interior DT we’ve had in years & other teams invest RD1 picks at CB and expect them to start and be solid out the gate.  Just because Elam didn’t work out doesn’t mean Hairston will be a disaster too.  We had nothing behind Oliver/Jones last year and Rasul Douglas was a liability.

 

Just get Bosa to Week 1 healthy and the schedule softens up after Baltimore until we get back Hoecht & Ogunjobi.  Hes not Von post-ACL washed .. he’s fragile, but when healthy, he’s a legit DE1 playmaker.  Epenesa is fine as a DE3 if that’s what he needs to be with Rousseau & Bosa ahead of him, until a Jackson emerges or we get Hoecht back. 
 

 

[uticaclub]

59 minutes ago, SCBills said:

So much doom and gloom about our defense..

 

Im not willing to entertain that because with all they invested on that side of the ball, while basically telling Josh Allen he can have a good OL and then figure it out.. they better be good. 
 

TJ Sanders is easily, from a talent/potential perspective, right there with Ed Oliver as best interior DT we’ve had in years & other teams invest RD1 picks at CB and expect them to start and be solid out the gate.  Just because Elam didn’t work out doesn’t mean Hairston will be a disaster too.  We had nothing behind Oliver/Jones last year and Rasul Douglas was a liability.

 

Just get Bosa to Week 1 healthy and the schedule softens up after Baltimore until we get back Hoecht & Ogunjobi.  Hes not Von post-ACL washed .. he’s fragile, but when healthy, he’s a legit DE1 playmaker.  Epenesa is fine as a DE3 if that’s what he needs to be with Rousseau & Bosa ahead of him, until a Jackson emerges or we get Hoecht back. 
 

 

Did you see Bosa last year? Who was the last player to return from a PED suspension and made a significant impact?

 

It’s not doom & gloom, just more of the same.

[That's No Moon]

5 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Did you see Bosa last year? Who was the last player to return from a PED suspension and made a significant impact?

 

It’s not doom & gloom, just more of the same.

I agree with you, Bosa is washed too.

[Shaw66]

3 hours ago, uticaclub said:

So our season depends on a 3rd round rookie outperforming a 6 year vet this regime drafted in the 2nd round? Our defense is going to be really bad, isn’t it?

I didn't say any of that, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I expressly said the season doesn't depend on Jackson.

[Brand J]

Neck injuries are never a good thing in football. Hopefully Landon has a career that isn’t hampered by past injuries. 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

As I said, I agree with your conclusion - pass rush is the paramount problem. That's not overstated. 

 

You overstate the importance of Reid/Mahomes.  The Chiefs are far from the only threat. Building to beat the Chiefs is a mistake.  The Bills have to be able to beat the Ravens, beat the Eagles, beat the Rams, and beat whichever other teams emerge. 

 

You overstate when you say Josh guarantees 30 points against the Chiefs. 

 

You overstate that it's paramount that Jackson outdo Epenesa's numbers. Jackson is not the only possible answer to enhanced pass rush. 

 

That's all overstated. 

Josh has averaged 28 pts per game in all his games v KC. So I apologize for my egregious exaggeration of 2 pts. 

 

We have lost 4 out of the last 5 years at the hands of KC. Kinda hard playing the Rams or Eagles in a SB if you can't get by the same opponent.  And no I'm not proposing building a team to only beat KC. Obviously you need a well rounded team to attack different styles.

 

My main point discussing Jackson v AJE is that one of our pass rushing draft picks needs to hit. If we want to win a championship and support Josh's contributions, we must enhance our pass rushing capacity. I know we both agree 100% on this. I don't know where it comes from...Solomon, Sanders, Jackson, Walker?....who knows?  Maybe a draft pick next year?  But hopefully it comes soon. My mistake was using the word "paramount" in this context.  It is paramount that we support 17 as much as we can.

[PoundingDog]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

one of our pass rushing draft picks needs to hit

100%. 

 

Someone mentioned me the other day that when Mahomes played well in the playoffs, the Chiefs won. They would lose when Mahomes had a bad game. So Chiefs defense is solid against quality opponent but not overpowering. 

 

Allen has played well, occasionally superb in the playoffs and the Bills still lost to top competition. That is the difference. We need a D that is capable to cause Mahomes to have a bad playoff game.

[DaVinci]

Landon Jackson, a defensive end for the Arkansas Razorbacks, suffered a neck injury during a game against Missouri on November 30, 2024. He was carted off the field and taken to the hospital, but was later released and reported to be "doing well". The injury was initially concerning, but it was later clarified that the hospitalization was precautionary due to neck pain. Jackson was able to move his extremities and communicate with medical staff. 

[Richard Noggin]

On 7/16/2025 at 10:04 AM, eball said:

The most important aspect of this “news” is the part that says the Bills expect him to be ready for practice next week.  Until that doesn’t happen, most of this thread is pretty pointless.

 

 

Pointless unless you have no shame...

 

On 7/16/2025 at 5:14 PM, GaryPinC said:

Thanks.  The real concern is how this happens at one of these camps and what's that going to mean for him at the NFL level?  Here's a synopsis of his injury history:

 

https://www.cover1.net/nfl-draft-injury-impact-arkansas-edge-landon-jackson/

 

Video of the injury from November:

Is this guy really going to hold up at this level?  It wasn't some crazy hit by an oversized RB.  He didn't miss a game and they write the hospital visit off as being extra precautious, but come on.  His "neck pain" situation had to be severe enough to take him to the ER.

 

Found one.

 

[CNYfan]

Good find

[MikePJ76]

If Jackson ends up a hurt guy who misses a lot of camp and is not reliable coupled with whatever is going to happen to Hairston.  This will go down as one of the worst off seasons of beanes time here.

 

if the draft picks are not on the field helping and succeeding this defense is in big trouble.