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[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t want him blocking all the time, but he has to at least be adequate enough so as not to tip off the D regarding what we are running. If he’s a blocking liability he hurts us, and if the D knows he’s sneaking out into the flats it makes it easier on them. I don’t want any “tells” because he’s not competent at an important aspect of the game. He doesn’t have to be great, but at least adequate to keep the opponents honest. 

 

Let the D know that he is going out as a receiver. Then they have to cover him with someone and it's one less pass rusher. Blocking by receiving.

 

Or leave him open and let Josh dump it to him with 7 yards of open field in front of him. See how that goes.

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Thank you.  Thurman could pass block but he was devastating as a receiver.  Cook will learn to block but as you said let him release as a safety valve.  Josh will find the open guy and beat the blitz far more often than not. 

Cook won't learn to block. He just doesn't have the frame for it.

[DrDawkinstein]

9 minutes ago, MJS said:

Cook won't learn to block. He just doesn't have the frame for it.

 

Maybe not. But plenty of us also said he'd never be able to run anyone over with his size/frame, and then he changed that last year. He's only 25 and still filling out. Might happen. (Might not).

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Let the D know that he is going out as a receiver. Then they have to cover him with someone and it's one less pass rusher. Blocking by receiving.

 

Or leave him open and let Josh dump it to him with 7 yards of open field in front of him. See how that goes.

 

They have to account for him regardless, I appreciate having more flexibility. But I agree I want to get him the ball where he can use his vision and speed to make the BIG splash plays. 

[MJS]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Maybe not. But plenty of us also said he'd never be able to run anyone over with his size/frame, and then he changed that last year. He's only 25 and still filling out. Might happen. (Might not).

He needs momentum for those plays when he fights for extra yards. If he gets caught in the backfield before he can start moving, he still goes down pretty easily.

 

He is a good player. Happy to have him. But he has some limitations, which is why Ty Johnson gets playing time.

[BigAl2526]

33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Agreed. This is still kinda a popularity contest and he is a bit of an unsung hero. Plus there are just soooo many CBs.

 

I dont want him blocking. Leave that to our elite OL and Josh's scrambling skills. I want Cook squeaking out of the backfield so Josh can dump it him in space and let his speed and agility gash the D for 10 yards a pop. That will slow any rush better than a blocking RB.

Buffalo has WRs who block.  Blocking does not present a particular injury risk for running backs, but slowing an onrushing defensive lineman by half a second could be the difference between a big pass play and a hastily thrown ball that falls harmlessly to the turf or worse, into the hands of a defender multiple times during the season.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, BigAl2526 said:

Buffalo has WRs who block.  Blocking does not present a particular injury risk for running backs, but slowing an onrushing defensive lineman by half a second could be the difference between a big pass play and a hastily thrown ball that falls harmlessly to the turf or worse, into the hands of a defender multiple times during the season.

 

I'm obviously being a bit hyperbolic. I get the need. I just dont see it as big of a deal as so many other posters/fans who want to overly criticize him on it, since we can work around it in others ways.

[Rubes]

2 hours ago, MDH said:

Creed Humphrey is the best center in the league. He deserves to be much higher on this list than the guys surrounding him.

 

I'll admit, that one still hurts a bit.

 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, MDH said:

Creed Humphrey is the best center in the league. He deserves to be much higher on this list than the guys surrounding him.

Honestly I like him but I've said this for a long time 

 

Center play today is way down to what it was 20 years ago 

 

He's not even close to being on the level of a Kevin mawae type imo

 

Again I think Creed is really good but I think a guy like Connor McGovern is closer to Humphrey 

 

Then Humphrey is to a guy like Kevin Mawae

 

Center is easier to play than the tackle or guard position physically today than it was 30 years ago.. they get the most double teams and have the least amount of one-on-ones

 

Is Humphrey a stud? Yea.. but center is a spot where veterans can grow into and always has been 

 

I'll go back to our own Conor McGovern who everybody was so afraid of playing center.. and from day one I said he was going to be tremendous 

 

It's easier to project a center than it is a tackle

 

In a salary cap League 3 years 22 million from McGovern.. sounds better than 4 years 75 million for Humphrey 

 

Again I think he's really good I don't think the gap between those guys are 53 million dollars

 

Creed Humphrey one hit allowed zero sacks 

 

McGovern zero hits allowed zero sacks

Edited Monday at 07:42 PM by Buffalo716

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I've always thought this was a fun, and interesting poll, but I'll never put much stock in its accuracy. Being that it's current players who cast votes, there is certainly at least some element of popularity involved. The fact that Josh Allen-- reputed as one of the top trash-talkers in the league-- was ranked outside of the top ten in '24 makes that clear.

 

As Spencer Brown has always been quick to get in anyone's face who even looks at Josh wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a very popular player outside of Buffalo. But we sure love him!

He threw 18 interceptions and gave away at least one game singlehandedly.  Number 12 on the list was fair last year.

[Buffalo716]

58 minutes ago, MJS said:

Cook won't learn to block. He just doesn't have the frame for it.

Blocking for a running back is about effort and want 

 

Not your size 

 

Darren sproles was a better blocking back than LeGarrette Blount 

 

Because sproles had high effort 

 

Do I think cook will ever have that want? Probably not much of the time but if Darren sproles could develop .. I guess cook could also

[MJS]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Blocking for a running back is about effort and want 

 

Not your size 

 

Darren sproles was a better blocking back than LeGarrette Blount 

 

Because sproles had high effort 

 

Do I think cook will ever have that want? Probably not much of the time but if Darren sproles could develop .. I guess cook could also

Sproles was short, but he had a low center of gravity and was built like a mini tank. Cook is taller and super slender. He has a much higher center of gravity. That's the problem.

[BigDingus]

Well deserved.

 

Aside from Allen, he's been the best weapon on offense & the biggest reason for our success. 

 

I'll say it over & over again, he has more of an impact on the field than people like Groot, yet one gets paid significantly more than the other just based off position. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

 

I'll admit, that one still hurts a bit.

 

A bit?? Its crushing!! And its not revisionist history either. We were all screaming for him in real time during the draft. 

36 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Well deserved.

 

Aside from Allen, he's been the best weapon on offense & the biggest reason for our success. 

 

I'll say it over & over again, he has more of an impact on the field than people like Groot, yet one gets paid significantly more than the other just based off position. 

He's the second best player on the team in my opinion. Guys like Brown, Benford, Dawkins, Shakir and Rousseau are in that conversation as well. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Based on everything I’ve heard from people speculating on what Rousseau has been and analytics show can be, especially on an improved line, I doubt he makes it this year .. but I think he does next year. 
 

Im expecting a “breakout” year, in terms of national attention, for Rousseau this year. 
 

His analytics numbers show he’s much better than he gets credit for.. mainly due to low sack numbers and playing on a meh DL where he asked to do alot of dirty work. 
 

Who cares about analytics.  Sports were great before any of that nonsense ever came to be.  
 

As a fan, we all watch the games and can see who is good who is great who sucks and who is mediocre.  The eye test shows that the Bills defense as awhile was pretty weak last year.  Just watch the Rams Lions reg season games and the Chiefs playoff game. Our defense was not physical and left huge gaps of open space all over the field.  The pass rush was marginal at best.  
 

My point is that Rousseau doesn’t look special most games.  He certainly doesn’t suck.  But he definitely does not dominate week in and week out.  Or even play after play on most defensive series 
 

i hope he gets to that level in year 5.  But we shall see. 

[Drey]

None of these players should even be on this list. People are only submitting ballots of their top 20 players in the league. How are any of these people in the top 20 of any ballot?

[MJS]

5 hours ago, Rubes said:

I'll admit, that one still hurts a bit.

Why? We had a good center when he was taken and we have another good center now. It's not like we have struggled at all at the position, and center is one of the lesser valued positions in the league.

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Honestly I like him but I've said this for a long time 

 

Center play today is way down to what it was 20 years ago 

 

He's not even close to being on the level of a Kevin mawae type imo

 

Again I think Creed is really good but I think a guy like Connor McGovern is closer to Humphrey 

 

Then Humphrey is to a guy like Kevin Mawae

 

Center is easier to play than the tackle or guard position physically today than it was 30 years ago.. they get the most double teams and have the least amount of one-on-ones

 

Is Humphrey a stud? Yea.. but center is a spot where veterans can grow into and always has been 

 

I'll go back to our own Conor McGovern who everybody was so afraid of playing center.. and from day one I said he was going to be tremendous 

 

It's easier to project a center than it is a tackle

 

In a salary cap League 3 years 22 million from McGovern.. sounds better than 4 years 75 million for Humphrey 

 

Again I think he's really good I don't think the gap between those guys are 53 million dollars

 

Creed Humphrey one hit allowed zero sacks 

 

McGovern zero hits allowed zero sacks

I agree.  That said- that $ gap is going to get a lot smaller after this season 

[Billsfed1]

I think Allen is first and Dion is in the top ten, maybe top five.

[BillsFanForever19]

9 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Benford is a top 5 CB in the league.  There is no doubt he will make it

 

I definitely think he should and I wouldn't be surprised if he made it.

 

But "no doubt" he will? I wouldn't go that far. Most fans don't even know who he is. He's often left off Top CB's lists, period. Let alone the Top 5. And this is a player voted thing, often with bigger names who had down years voted in over players who had better seasons. 

 

Again, I think he should be on the list. But I certainly have doubts that he will be.