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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Probably not a bust yet. I could see him as Geno Smith-type who hangs around until he finds the right situation.

Gino  had basically 30 starts before the Jets gave up on him 

 

The niners gave up on Trey Lance after like 5

 

The lights were too bright and the expectations were too high.. they were calling him a Josh Allen type 

 

All of that was a recipe for disaster

 

 

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14 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I consider myself a pretty die hard bills fan and would have lost money if someone bet me that he was ever a Bill. 

That was the preseason from hell. Leinart was signed off the street a day or two before, and if he had been merely average in that game, he likely would've been the Week One starter.

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24 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Who was the qb that was here under Rex that threw the backwards pass in a pre season game? Still cracks me up when I think about it 

 

Was it the fella he's had at the Jets. McElroy or something?

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

 

The lights were too bright and the expectations were too high.. they were calling him a Josh Allen type 

 

I don't know if that's true.  Bills passed on him to take EJ, and Smith fell to #39 in the draft.  I don't recall many people thinking he was a monster.  Maybe Jets fans, because they can talk themselves into almost anything, but most Bills fans were lukewarm at best about Manuel and glad the Bills didn't take Smith. . 

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2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't know if that's true.  Bills passed on him to take EJ, and Smith fell to #39 in the draft.  I don't recall many people thinking he was a monster.  Maybe Jets fans, because they can talk themselves into almost anything, but most Bills fans were lukewarm at best about Manuel and glad the Bills didn't take Smith. . 

I'm talking about tre lance was compared to Josh Allen and he had a lot of expectations 

 

Geno Smith was a second round pick who played a lot his first two years not great.. and then did bust his ass on the bench for 6 years till he got his next chance 

 

He also was known as a terrific thrower of the football coming out of college he just had a long learning curve

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I'm talking about tre lance was compared to Josh Allen and he had a lot of expectations 

 

Geno Smith was a second round pick who played a lot his first two years not great.. and then did bust his ass on the bench for 6 years till he got his next chance 

 

He also was known as a terrific thrower of the football coming out of college he just had a long learning curve

 

 

Ah, got it.  I recall divided opinion about Lance, not exactly like Allen, but similar boom-or-bust potential.  That's what you're saying. 

 

My feeling is that a guy like Lance might hold on in the same way Tyrod has held on. Keep working and playing, getting buy on some special talent, and then see how far he develops. Tyrod was similar to Smith in that way, but didn't go as far as Smith. I think a Smith-like late career blossoming is possible with Lance.

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2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Ah, got it.  I recall divided opinion about Lance, not exactly like Allen, but similar boom-or-bust potential.  That's what you're saying. 

 

My feeling is that a guy like Lance might hold on in the same way Tyrod has held on. Keep working and playing, getting buy on some special talent, and then see how far he develops. Tyrod was similar to Smith in that way, but didn't go as far as Smith. I think a Smith-like late career blossoming is possible with Lance.

Yeah and they also were paralleling two under recruited kids 

 

Who both wound up at small colleges.. even North Dakota is smaller than Wyoming FCS to FBS 

 

And their overall athleticism and ability to create outside pocket 

 

Not to mention that Lance was billed as a 6'3 230 lb modern day quarterback.. 

 

He really does seem to have a lot of talent but I think playing quarterback at the FCS level is almost too much to overcome at the NFL now 

 

Even Joe flacco was probably close to 20 years ago and he was the prototype pocket passer that the NFL looked for 

 

Trey Lance was a projection

 

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2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Wilson and Trubisky started like twice the games.

 

 

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I am in the small minority who believes that Wilson has a second act in him.

 

That's what the cougar said.

 

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Leinart and Garappalo were system QBs manufactured in the Patriots system.  They were not going to work out without a McDaniels. 

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There probably wasn't a time when I more actively followed College Football as it were happening and was more invested in a Draft than the 2006 NFL Draft. 

 

It was wild then to later see most of the College Superstars from that Draft end up wearing a Bills jersey at different points in time, even if incredibly briefly in some instances, in Mario Williams, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, and Matt Leinart.

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