Network pricing to watch all NFL games in 2025

[machine gun kelly]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:16 AM, Jukester said:

I get the point and yes it has gotten ridiculous, but slightly misleading. You don’t need YTTV sub to get Sunday Ticket. They offer it standalone.

That and I have smart TV’s so YouTube is one of my preloaded apps.  I use my stepson’s college ID to get the stand alone for $200.  As far as Prime, Netflix, and Peacock, I’m already an avid user for some of the programs streaming the day after network viewing like the Chicago shows, or the FBI shows.  I’m up so early, I’m not awake half the time when aired at night, so easier for me to see at 5am.

 

For me, it’s just a matter of how I enjoy using my discretionary spending.  We prefer making meals than going out to eat, and both my wife and I are better cooks than half of what you get in some of these restaurants.  If I go to my neighborhood sports bar, I may only stop by for an hour on Sunday as have a lot of friends during the season, as they have the best garlic hot wings in the area.  I’m only there during the NFL season and only from maybe 1-2pm.  My wife enjoys the wings, and she knows I like seeing my buddies and having a beer for an hour.

 

I think it’s always a personal choice, and I love football.  Besides I’ve been to every high end restaurant in Tampa Bay, as it’s part of my job in sales.  Going out turns into work so when off I’d rather have something I’ve made or my wife is an excellent cook.

[Dan Darragh]

On 6/5/2025 at 4:57 PM, Fleezoid said:

I go to the sports bar to watch games. I rarely spend more the $70 / week. I used to think I was spending a lot of money for the luxury to watch football. Now I realize I'm a financial genius. 

 

 

But your liver is suffering the consequences

[Dan Darragh]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:58 PM, Einstein said:

Walmart made over $600 billion last year

88.6% of statistics are made up, including this one.

 

Walmart's profit last year was $19.4 billion.  It's still a lot, but it's 97% less than the number you made up.

 

Some people will believe anything.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

88.6% of statistics are made up, including this one.

 

Walmart's profit last year was $19.4 billion.  It's still a lot, but it's 97% less than the number you made up.

 

Some people will believe anything.

 

The poster I was responding to was talking about the NFL’s revenue - not their profit.

 

Accordingly, my comparison was to Walmart’s revenue - not profit. After all, it would not make sense to compare the NFL’s revenue to Walmarts profit - would it?

 

Walmart made a revenue of over $600 billion last year. You looked up the profit, not revenue. Problem is, no-one in this thread walk talking about profit… we were all talking about revenue.

If you are going to call someone out in such a condescending way, you should triple check that you know what you are talking about before doing so.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Einstein

[Low Positive]

He acts like most people don't already have subscriptions to most of those services. I already have Alta Fiber (cable), Netflix, Amazon Prime, Peacock, and ESPN+.The only thing I have to subscribe to is Sunday Ticket and I can get the student rate. Talking about the price of services that stream games as if the only reason that people subscribe to them is to watch football is like including the price of buying a car in your calculations of the costs to drive to Chicago. Sure, if I didn't have a car it would cost around $20,050 to drive there, but because I have the car for other purposes, the drive costs a tank of gas.

[chongli]

22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

How incredibly embarrassing for you.

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22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

If you are going to call someone out in such a condescending way, you should triple check that you know what you are talking about before doing so.

 

I get it...you were annoyed (I have been too sometimes here), but best way to respond is to just state the facts, rather than being subtly snarky.

Edited 7 hours ago by chongli

[Einstein]

Just now, chongli said:

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I get it...you were annoyed (I have been too sometimes here), but best way to respond is to just state the facts, rather than being subtly snarky (which I have been sometimes).

You're right. Thanks for the reminder

I just edited the post.

[chongli]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

You're right. Thanks for the reminder

I just edited the post.

No, thank *YOU*. 🍻 I have done it myself, but I try hard to bite my tongue now. It's hard, because it feels personal (at least with me).

[sven233]

I am not going to say what is "right" or "wrong" either way when it comes to streaming.  I'd be lying if I said I never saw a stream of a huge boxing, WWE, UFC card, or NFL game at some point.  Is it "right"?  I am not here to judge because there are compelling cases to be made on both sides.

 

I mean, there is a perfect example being built right now in our backyard.  We are funding almost a BILLION dollars of a new stadium with our tax money for an owner that is worth almost 8 BILLION DOLLARS that will collect the revenue generated from this stadium.  On top of that, fans are being forced to purchase the RIGHT to buy a seat in the same stadium on top of the ticket price to actually see the game.  And we as taxpayers are sure to get a piece of the pie back from the stadium we are covering about half of, right?  Nope......

 

Yes, there are other arguments to be made as well.  Tickets, merchandise, streaming services to watch the games, etc.  But really, for funding the stadium alone, it seems like watching an NFL game should be included in that price somewhere.

 

Like I said, it's a gray area in a lot of ways.  Sure, the rules are the rules but there is an argument to be made that the NFL is a monopoly and are finding every loophole themselves to increase their profits year after year.  They get so many tax breaks, and other perks us regular folks don't so if someone wants to watch their favorite team or a good matchup they normally wouldn't be able to watch on a stream once in a while, I am not going to rake them over the coals about it.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by sven233

[Einstein]

Just now, sven233 said:

I mean, there is a perfect example being built right now in our backyard.  We are funding almost a BILLION dollars of a new stadium with our tax money for an owner that is worth almost 8 BILLION DOLLARS that will collect the revenue generated from this stadium.  On top of that, fans are being forced to purchase the RIGHT to buy a seat in the same stadium in top of the ticket price to actually see the game.  And we as taxpayers are sure to get a piece of the pie back from the stadium we are covering about half of, right?  Nope.....

[Dan Darragh]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

The poster I was responding to was talking about the NFL’s revenue - not their profit.

 

Accordingly, my comparison was to Walmart’s revenue - not profit. After all, it would not make sense to compare the NFL’s revenue to Walmarts profit - would it?

 

Walmart made a revenue of over $600 billion last year. You looked up the profit, not revenue. Problem is, no-one in this thread walk talking about profit… we were all talking about revenue.

If you are going to call someone out in such a condescending way, you should triple check that you know what you are talking about before doing so.

 

 

If the NFL sells you a $300 ticket the marginal cost of goods sold is zero.  If Walmart sells you a $300 lawnmower, the marginal cost of goods sold is probably $280. So you're making a completely false comparison.  That's why talking about revenue is meaningless. 

 

But I guess I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about.  

 

Ho-hum, back to Donald and Elon.... their fights are more interesting.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:21 AM, buffaloboyinATL said:

I am pretty sure that is not true.  
 

(ps I have since learned I am wrong)

 

I believe to the price listed for ST is the stand alone without YTTV.  If you have YTTV, St is around $100 less.

 

Plus if you live in Buffalo, the games shown on Prime, Netflix, and Peacock will be available on local TV

 

But you do need something like at a minimum an antenna to watch the local networks

Edited 5 hours ago by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

[Xwnyer]

On 6/5/2025 at 8:10 AM, Gregg said:

And people complained when Directv had it all for 400$

[Xwnyer]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:43 AM, Simon said:

 

A restaurant has competition and must cater to its customers to make money.

The NFL has no competition and takes advantage of that fact by maximizing profits with less than zero regard for its customer's wants or needs.

I've recently lost any qualms I may have once had about honesty and fair play when it comes to the NFL.

If you want to consider me a thief for "stealing" from unethical robber barons, so be it.

So I guess it’s ok to also “steal” from Walmart, lowes, Home Depot and all those other robber barons??

[Johnny Bravo]

On 6/6/2025 at 3:41 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

Straight up, I'm a thief

 

..... oh no how will my friends and family ever trust me again LoL

 

Theres not a single corporate product or aspect of govt (essential or not) in existence, where I can go one full day without being ripped off a dozen or more times... just by opening my eyes in the morning.  The working man in this country owes nothing to any of these people except for a tar and feathering.

 

But yes, I'm gunna hold a vigil for the corporations as victims of petty theft, and ignore the gunpoint robbery the middle class is subjected to on the daily. 👌

Living your life with the belief that you are a perpetual victim being constantly ripped off by evil people more powerful than you rather than a grown man with agency whose life is a product of his own decisions sounds really awful.  
 

I think that way of thinking is really destructive (and I don’t think that paradigm reflects reality) but I admire people who are able to keep pressing on even though they believe that.  I’m not sure I could.

[Don Otreply]

On 6/5/2025 at 9:29 AM, Einstein said:

 

I will never understand people advocating illegal streams. 

 

For some reason, it being media makes it pallatable for people to say things like like this. But most of us would never say “oh that restaurant meal was expensive - but there are ways to skip out the door before paying without the waitress knowing”. 

 

Why not just straight up say “i’m a thief”?

The poor Billionaires, what ever shall they do, what about their children…

[nedboy7]

I’m made of money.  Bring it. 

[Don Otreply]

I don’t pay to watch games, they are offered for free with great regularity through various legitimate providers, and at your favorite watering holes, 😁👍🍸🚬 why TF would anyone pay? 

Edited 19 minutes ago by Don Otreply

[Governor]

On 6/5/2025 at 8:21 AM, Pete said:

Half the time I can’t even figure out what channel the game is on, so I pursue other ways out of frustration.

Me too. You don’t even have to care what channel it’s on.

[JimBob2232]

its crazy how expensive this is now.   What I dont understand is that I can watch almost any Big10 or SEC game every weekend on some channel.  Yet im stuck shelling out ridiculous sums to watch the Bills.  It's gotten out of control.  Not trying to brag here - but I have more then enough disposable income where the amount isn't an issue...I just cant justify paying that much.   Who the heck is paying this???