Royale with Cheese Posted Tuesday at 01:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:52 PM On 5/30/2025 at 11:04 AM, Augie said: The world is changing rapidly, and it just keeps accelerating. I won’t say my wife is “obsessed” with AI, but it’s been a big topic for a while now so my eyes and ears have been open to this. This makes me think of my college hoops board where there is a thread on dwindling enrollment and sky high tuition and expenses. You HOPE that your education and degree will land you one of those entry level jobs……that are going to go away. Do you want to come out of college with a shiny new diploma and hundreds of thousand$ in student debt looking for a job that no longer exists? Spending four years on that Marketing or English Lit degree is sounding like an expensive vacation that might not pay off at all. I’m all questions with no answers, but I wonder if more people will pursue work in the trades, make a very good living and not pile up the student loans? Some things still need to be done by people, at least for now. I'm telling my son to focus on STEM degrees. The other degrees get you Sales or HR jobs and those are hard to get with the saturation in the market. Or learn a skilled trade. 3 Quote
teef Posted Tuesday at 02:46 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:46 PM i'm not scared. i'll punch AI right in the face. 3 Quote
US Egg Posted Tuesday at 03:27 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:27 PM 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm telling my son to focus on STEM degrees. My kid’s at Moog, says they can’t fill jobs and are incentivizing eligible retirees to stay on. Plus there’s been an uptick in Defense contracts and not just there. STEM sounds a good way to go. Would venture to say it’s better now than awhile back, two of mine graduated with B.E. around 2007, it wasn’t a smooth transition into the work market then. 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Or learn a skilled trade. When I dropped out of H.S., granted it was in the ‘70’s, trades were near impossible to get in. Had a neighbor who was a union rep in the Iron Workers saying he’d get me in, after a year, I gave up. Now trades are so desperate they advertise on the radio around here in Buffalo. Again, don’t think you can go wrong there either. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted Tuesday at 03:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:29 PM 1 minute ago, US Egg said: When I dropped out of H.S., granted it was in the ‘70’s, trades were near impossible to get in. Had a neighbor who was a union rep in the Iron Workers saying he’d get me in, after a year, I gave up. Now trades are so desperate they advertise on the radio around here in Buffalo. Again, don’t think you can go wrong there either. At one point we were offering electricians $10,000 sign on bonuses because we were so desperate in some locations. Quote
Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM The biggest targets of AI are going to be entry-level coding jobs, stuff that’s dead simple to automate. Not great news for people who had “learn to code” drilled into them. Quote
LeviF Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM On 5/30/2025 at 9:58 PM, Einstein said: Law is another that I fear for. Depositions that take young lawyers all day can be written in 3 minutes by AI. Including deep research into past cases! Doc review will almost certainly go that way eventually. The thing with the law though is that the bar still needs to admit practitioners. And the bar is made up of people whose living depends on their jobs still being around. So... Quote
Einstein Posted Tuesday at 04:28 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:28 PM 12 minutes ago, LeviF said: Doc review will almost certainly go that way eventually. The thing with the law though is that the bar still needs to admit practitioners. And the bar is made up of people whose living depends on their jobs still being around. So... That's a good point. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: The biggest targets of AI are going to be entry-level coding jobs, stuff that’s dead simple to automate. Not great news for people who had “learn to code” drilled into them. I have a friend that owns a technology company in San Francisco and he told me 10 years ago he saw a computer programming other computers at a convention. He told me Front End Developers will be obsolete by 2030-2035. I have other friends who are Front End Developers and they said the same thing....they need to start transitioning to AI to keep a job. Quote
Simon Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM 5 hours ago, teef said: i'm not scared. i'll punch AI right in the face. And then make it pay you to fix it's teef! 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM (edited) This all started with that MFer Data on Star Trek. Edit: Yea, I know it’s “Star Trek Next Generation” you nerds. Edited Tuesday at 08:56 PM by WotAGuy Quote
Just Jack Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM This was on the news, about trade schools, recently... Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM Frankly I don't get why everyone is so worked up about steak sauce. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted yesterday at 12:08 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:08 AM 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm telling my son to focus on STEM degrees. STEM with a physical component (ie: physician, dentist, etc). STEM that just looks at microscopes all day will eventually be absorbed by AI as well. Same with computer science. Even worse even. I see computer science majors at our University and feel bad for them. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM 12 hours ago, Einstein said: STEM with a physical component (ie: physician, dentist, etc). STEM that just looks at microscopes all day will eventually be absorbed by AI as well. Same with computer science. Even worse even. I see computer science majors at our University and feel bad for them. A Computer Science Degree with an AI concentration is very valuable. But your general Web Developer is going to go away. AI will build sites instantly and that's insane for me to think about. Quote
Einstein Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: A Computer Science Degree with an AI concentration is very valuable. You think so? Hmm. I see a future where AI programs itself in the not so distant future. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago I've told all my kids they better look into software engineering because every other job will be extinct in a few years. 3 hours ago, Einstein said: You think so? Hmm. I see a future where AI programs itself in the not so distant future. I think thats where humans will draw the line. They want to make work less expensive but they do not want to give up control. Humans are too self centered to allow it. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago On 6/3/2025 at 9:46 AM, teef said: i'm not scared. i'll punch AI right in the face. Then... Fix its teeth! YOU SIR have a plan! Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago On 6/3/2025 at 5:12 PM, Just Jack said: This was on the news, about trade schools, recently... Make sure PPE is worn at ALL times. A 30 year career can wreck havoc: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5742090/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110406161028.htm FiL was a welder... Definitely contributed to his skin cancer, dementia, & subsequent demise... 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted 35 minutes ago Posted 35 minutes ago The world needs ditch diggers too ... Oh and I hear we'll need people to harvest the crops this year. Quote
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