Purdy and 49’ers extension. 5 years 265 million

[PetermansRedemption]

Oof. I’ll wait for the guaranteed money, but this is just awful. Guy is no where near the top tier. 

[KingBoots8]

28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’d rather have Justin Fields than Brock Purdy or Tua or Goff.

I appreciate that this is your opinion, and you are 100% entitled to it, but please do not ever apply for the Bills GM position if it ever opens up

[Kirby Jackson]

33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Why????  Fields is terrible!

 

Because he makes $20M a year AAV and Brock Purdy makes $53M a year AAV. If you don’t have a guy on a rookie deal, I’d WAY rather have a bridge type guy like Fields than a game manger making $50M plus. 

6 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

I appreciate that this is your opinion, and you are 100% entitled to it, but please do not ever apply for the Bills GM position if it ever opens up

Might want to google how the cap works….

 

 

23 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Are you talking relative to contract? Like you would rather Fields at 20 million compared to those guys in the 50s?

 

Or just straight up you think fields is better than them?

Exactly!! If neither is the reason that you win, give me the guy at 1/2 price. It’s not complicated and honestly not really debatable.

[KingBoots8]

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Because he makes $20M a year AAV and Brock Purdy makes $53M a year AAV. If you don’t have a guy on a rookie deal, I’d WAY rather have a bridge type guy like Fields than a game manger making $50M plus. 
 

Might want to google how the cap works….

 

 

Exactly!! If neither is the reason that you win, give me the guy at 1/2 price. It’s not complicated and honestly not really debatable.

ok, from that perspective yes I would agree. I thought you meant from a talent perspective, which… yeah 🤮

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Really interested to see how this gets structured and how fast they can get out. I'd guess there's a ripcord after year 3. Giants managed to get an out at year 2 into Jones' contract.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

ok, from that perspective yes I would agree. I thought you meant from a talent perspective, which… yeah 🤮

 

That’s kind of the point. Paying Purdy $53M is WAY worse than paying Fields $20M. These teams are getting crippled paying these game manager top of the market money. There are so many awful deals on here:

 

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

Really interested to see how this gets structured and how fast they can get out. I'd guess there's a ripcord after year 3. Giants managed to get an out at year 2 into Jones' contract.

Yep, they can’t possibly get stuck with him. They did have to gut the roster already to get this done. 🤣🤣 What a nightmare

[97bills]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’d rather have Justin Fields than Brock Purdy or Tua or Goff.

You lost me with Justin fields, 

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, 97bills said:

You lost me with Justin fields, 

My goodness. It’s not complicated. His AAV is $20M. Purdy’s is now $53M. I’m not even sure that Purdy is better. He certainly doesn’t deserve more than 2.5X what Fields makes. 🤣🤣 They are pretty much the same. You can win some games with them. You don’t win because of them. You won’t win a championship with either of them. The same goes for a ton of the overpaid mid QBs. I’m actually shocked that people aren’t seeing that.

[Scott7975]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Massive mistake IMO. I give it 2-3 years before they're looking for a way out.

 

Purdy is the definition of QB purgatory. Just good enough to be fearful of letting him go, but not good enough to win it all. He was the QB of a team of superstars in their prime with elite offensive coaching and his play in the Super Bowl directly cost that team their chance at glory. And with his new salary they'll never be able to build that caliber of team around him again.

 

I think Kyle Shanahan could someday go the Andy Reid route of getting fired after 10+ years of disappointing playoff exits, going to a new team where he finds his elite QB, then start racking up championships.

 

Agree. He is decent but isn't elite. They aren't going to be able to keep an elite team up around him and that team is going to head towards average.

[97bills]

17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

My goodness. It’s not complicated. His AAV is $20M. Purdy’s is now $53M. I’m not even sure that Purdy is better. He certainly doesn’t deserve more than 2.5X what Fields makes. 🤣🤣 They are pretty much the same. You can win some games with them. You don’t win because of them. You won’t win a championship with either of them. The same goes for a ton of the overpaid mid QBs. I’m actually shocked that people aren’t seeing that.

You lost me again, purdy isn’t better then fields, purdy 9,500 passing yards 64td 27 picks. In 3 years. Fields in 4 years, 7,800 yards 45 td 31 picks, fields 11 overall pick. And well we know where purdy was drafted. Fields is considered a bust. And the tape shows it. 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, 97bills said:

You lost me again, purdy isn’t better then fields, purdy 9,500 passing yards 64td 27 picks. In 3 years. Fields in 4 years, 7,800 yards 45 td 31 picks, fields 11 overall pick. And well we know where purdy was drafted. Fields is considered a bust. And the tape shows it. 

OMG, you don’t win a game because you have either of them. If you switched teams between the 2 of them, the records wouldn’t be more than a game or 2 different. If you could win 7 games with Fields, I wouldn’t pay more than 2.5x that to have Purdy and maybe win 8. 🤣🤣🤣

 

I am shocked that anyone disagrees. Maybe I’m not explaining it well. Let’s try it another way. If you don’t have a QB that you win BECAUSE OF (that’s a relatively small list) you are WAY better off with a bridge QB at $20M than a QB that you DONT WIN BECAUSE OF on a big contract. Purdy on a rookie deal was awesome value. That’s why the 49ers were loaded. Purdy making Josh Allen money is franchise crippling. The 49ers would be WAY better off with Fields at $20M AAV than Purdy at $53M AAV.

[klos63]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Massive mistake IMO. I give it 2-3 years before they're looking for a way out.

 

Purdy is the definition of QB purgatory. Just good enough to be fearful of letting him go, but not good enough to win it all. He was the QB of a team of superstars in their prime with elite offensive coaching and his play in the Super Bowl directly cost that team their chance at glory. And with his new salary they'll never be able to build that caliber of team around him again.

 

I think Kyle Shanahan could someday go the Andy Reid route of getting fired after 10+ years of disappointing playoff exits, going to a new team where he finds his elite QB, then start racking up championships.

Guarantee money equals 3 years salary, so you're probably correct.  That'll give them time to draft a qb. 

 

This just shows the value of any qb that can reasonably be relied on. 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Yes, but Purdy's deal is 'post tariffs'.

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If he's paying California taxes on that he might be able to upgrade from a 1 bedroom to a 2 bedroom apartment.  

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Purdy is not that great. He's a middling QB that is another product of the Shanahan system. 

They gave up three first round picks for Trey Lance and he couldn't thrive under the Shanahan system.  I'd say he's above average but nowhere near elite.  I wouldn't have given him that much but he's done more to deserve an extension than Tua, Love, or Lawrence ever did.    

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

My goodness. It’s not complicated. His AAV is $20M. Purdy’s is now $53M. I’m not even sure that Purdy is better. He certainly doesn’t deserve more than 2.5X what Fields makes. 🤣🤣 They are pretty much the same. You can win some games with them. You don’t win because of them. You won’t win a championship with either of them. The same goes for a ton of the overpaid mid QBs. I’m actually shocked that people aren’t seeing that.

I read your post as saying you'd rather have Fields at that price then Purdy and Goff.  It makes more sense now but Purdy has been far better than Fields.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I read your post as saying you'd rather have Fields at that price then Purdy and Goff.  It makes more sense now but Purdy has been far better than Fields.

What will the 49ers record be? If you switched Fields for Purdy what would it be? Would it be more than a game different? Honestly, it might not be. That’s the exact problem with these mid QBs. If you don’t win 1 more game because you have them, why give them their 2nd contract? Draft a guy and you aren’t really worse. Sign Fields or Carr or Cousins or Wilson or whomever. It doesn’t matter. You either have a guy or you don’t. If you don’t, they are all the same just in different contracts. 

[Process]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What will the 49ers record be? If you switched Fields for Purdy what would it be? Would it be more than a game different? Honestly, it might not be. That’s the exact problem with these mid QBs. If you don’t win 1 more game because you have them, why give them their 2nd contract? Draft a guy and you aren’t really worse. Sign Fields or Carr or Cousins or Wilson or whomever. It doesn’t matter. You either have a guy or you don’t. If you don’t, they are all the same just in different contracts. 

What an absurd take. Purdy is not great but he is definitely getting you several more wins than Justin Fields. 

[DCofNC]

It’s a ton of money, but I think it’s fair.  He’s paid at 7th highest per year, which is about in line with his actual talent level.  I’d say he’s right in the top 10 range and this basically sets the new mark for the 10th best QB in the league.  Prior to last year, I would have argued he was about even with Goff, but Goff was great last year so I can’t say that now, I have him above Tua, so it’s all about right in my mind.

 

Good for him, from Mr. Irrelevant to generational wealth.  He landed in a good spot and did his part to get where he is.

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What will the 49ers record be? If you switched Fields for Purdy what would it be? Would it be more than a game different? Honestly, it might not be. That’s the exact problem with these mid QBs. If you don’t win 1 more game because you have them, why give them their 2nd contract? Draft a guy and you aren’t really worse. Sign Fields or Carr or Cousins or Wilson or whomever. It doesn’t matter. You either have a guy or you don’t. If you don’t, they are all the same just in different contracts. 

I don't think they make the Super Bowl with Fields as the starting QB a year and a half ago.  Purdy is a faster processor who can go through his reads quicker avoiding negative plays.  Would I have paid him that much?  No.  A Baker Mayfield contract would've been more appropriate.  You could say the same thing about Love, Lawrence, Goff, and Tua.  He's better than Fields though.

[RoscoeParrish]

40 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What will the 49ers record be? If you switched Fields for Purdy what would it be? Would it be more than a game different? Honestly, it might not be. That’s the exact problem with these mid QBs. If you don’t win 1 more game because you have them, why give them their 2nd contract? Draft a guy and you aren’t really worse. Sign Fields or Carr or Cousins or Wilson or whomever. It doesn’t matter. You either have a guy or you don’t. If you don’t, they are all the same just in different contracts. 

Fields is the wrong example.

 

Fields is actually awful. If you wanted to say, “I’d rather pay Geno $37M than Purdy $53M,” that’s fine and makes sense.

 

Fields can barely complete a pass. He was worth Mac Jones level compensation last year. He’s horrendous.

[H2o]

45 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They gave up three first round picks for Trey Lance and he couldn't thrive under the Shanahan system.  I'd say he's above average but nowhere near elite.  I wouldn't have given him that much but he's done more to deserve an extension than Tua, Love, or Lawrence ever did.    

The Lance deal was an organizational flop from top to bottom. He had barely thrown 300 passes in 3 years at a Division I AA school. One year was good, albeit against weak competition. A blind man could have seen that bust of a QB walking into a room. 

 

With Purdy, you saw exactly who he is this past year. A middle of the road QB who isn't a guy that will carry the franchise. He's not terrible. He's better than at least half of the starters in the NFL. $53M a year though?  Absolutely not.