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I really liked Shoeless Joe in Field Of Dreams. 

 

I don’t think he did anything bad. 

 

 

Pete? 

 

EDIT: I have to say that I don’t care.

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Might come in handy if/when the truth comes out on Ohtani. Currently, we’re supposed to believe that his interpreter racked up $5M in betting debts, that bookies kept taking bets from a guy making an interpreter’s salary… and Ohtani, out of the kindness of his heart, paid it all. OK 🙄.

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1 hour ago, Gregg said:

What about the steroids guys like Sosa and McGuire?

Well they're not technically banned they're just blackballed 

 

Rose was not allowed to step foot into an MLB stadium let alone be on the ballot

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Shoeless Joe Jackson should be inducted into the HOF TONIGHT in an emergency vote by the electors.

 

It's a total farce he was banned to begin with. Hits .375 in the series to lead players on both teams, hits the only home run in the entire series, commits no errors and throws out a runner at home plate and he is supposedly trying to "throw the series"??

 

In the history of people trying to to cheat, he must have been the worst cheater of all time of this was true.

 

On top of that there is no evidence he ever was in on it and strong evidence he actually tried to report it but was possibly manipulated due to being illiterate and lack of understanding what was actually going on.

 

I'm sure some would say what about Rose...well Rose admitted to doing the things he was accused of. Shoeless Joe never did any of the things he was accused of and was railroaded because he was on the team and made an example of by the Commissioner at the time, Kennesaw Mountain Landis.

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13 hours ago, Fleezoid said:

I think it's about time. Heck, the way gambling punishments are going, particularly in NFL, pretty soon most gambling infractions will simply be a fine. 

With all the sponsorships, there might be mandatory gambling 

 

I'm kind of mixed on this.  Probably more in favor than not.  The way Manfred made the rule (deceased players may be eligible/reinstated) makes it much better and im for it.

 

It'll be interesting if that classic baseball committee votes them in and if they do right away.  Pretty sure the neckband writers wouldn't 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

They are eligible, just not getting enough votes. It will be interesting if they will Pete

 

If you go off his playing career, then Rose is a slam dunk to get voted in. But will he get enough votes despite being reinstated. Many of those who vote on this may not forgive him despite being reinstated.

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14 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Too bad Pete didn’t live to see 

He can rot... Like a bad STD in he'll.  He was the real disease.

 

With Shoeless Joe, there was doubt.

 

Rose is no better than the 'roider.  Who knows, seems like a guy who would have done them too.  Dirtball.

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37 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He can rot... Like a bad STD in he'll.  He was the real disease.

 

With Shoeless Joe, there was doubt.

 

Rose is no better than the 'roider.  Who knows, seems like a guy who would have done them too.  Dirtball.

 

With Shoeless Joe there was no doubt...he didn't do it, tried to report it and his actions and stats back up there is no way possible he could have been involved.

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The roids/HGH is a different thing altogether.

 

Those people arent banned.  They just can't get enough votes.  I wonder if Rose and Jackson get in... and also a fringe HOF player like Cicotte.

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I'm torn on this. On one hand, Pete Rose is a Cincinnati institution. He is as Westside Cincinnati as a person can be. The westside is a weird place. It's a really insular working-class community that does not accept outsiders. Think South Boston or South Buffalo with all that goes with that. Except for the Irish thing, because here, of course, they are mostly ethnically German. Went to Western Hills HS. Graduated from high school (Western Hills) and got a tryout with the local MLB team and made the roster out of that first spring training. Really a local boy made good in every way. And when he opened a restaurant, he opened a diner across from Western Bowl (like saying "on Seneca by Caz Park"), not a downtown steakhouse (although he might have had one of those too). Pete Rose also lived in Western Hills. He never left the neighborhood. This was both good and bad.

 

Pete got himself into debt. Everyone knows a bit about the gambling. but it was much worse than he admitted to. It has recently come out that he bet on baseball all during his career as a player, and owed lots of money to organized crime figures all around the tri-state area. Here is an article from the Dayton Daily News: https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/part-2-the-pete-rose-tapes/U7NP35XRMFAYTD3VBLQP5WMUIY/ So for his entire career he was in debt to organized crime because he was betting big money on baseball while he was a player (he owed $30,000 to one bookie 1973 and tried to pay it off by betting with another). This is a lot bigger than placing a few bets at Draft Kings. But then again, there is no evidence that he threw a game. In fact, he played at 100mph every second he was on the field. So, like I said, I'm torn.

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