billsfan89 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 55 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: We keep at least 5 at each DE and DT. At times, we've kept 6 at each. We had 6 in 2023 at DE and we ended last season with 6 at DT (Oliver, Jones, Johnson, Carter, Jefferson, Phillips). It's fairly common for us to have 11 on the DL. With Hoecht and Ogunjobi suspended, we actually aren't that crowded at all. We're at the minimum we keep for each position at 10 total with Groot, Bosa, AJE, Jackson, and Solomon at DE and Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, and Carter at DT. If we trade AJE and/or Jones before Week 7, we're not only not crowded - we're shorthanded. Especially with how often we rotate. A single injury would put us in a tough spot. It wouldn't be unheard of to keep 12 along the DL when Hoecht and Ogunjobi return. And there will surely be injuries in the first 6 weeks that could make room for them. Maybe even along the DL. I don't think either will be cut or traded. If that does happen, I don't see it happening before Week 7. I don't see the team leaving themselves possibly short handed or making room for Ogunjobi and Hoecht before they have them. And I don't think they should. Keep the DL as deep as you can to the point where we're rotating in a quality player at all times. All fair points, I think if the target is to keep 11 D-line as they usually do then having 12 does not make for that crowded a field when 2 guys are suspended for a third of the season. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I assume the "cast off" was Bosa. But with the draft investment with the guys we took among with Bosa and the PED twins, it's pretty clear that Beane has invested in DL this year and I would assume any other large investments in the spot is off the table for now. Players have gotten smarter. The ones on top of things do a "hold in" where they show to camp, attend meetings and lift..but don't partake in football activities. It does just enough to avoid the fines. Do they ever post cryptically to Twitter? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said: Yea, Bills can't use a 17 sack guy each of the last three years...trade next years first if you have to its going to be a high pick anyways and go all in. Does $70M guaranteed get it done? it's of course super fun to think of this rotation: Hendrickson Bosa Rousseau L. Jackson +Rousseau is good enough rushing the passer from inside that we could use the big 3 on 3rd downs 0.5% chance he's traded to the Bills though. Edited 5 hours ago by Warriorspikes51 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: His public whining is getting old… When it comes to Bengals Owner vs Anybody.... Its an automatic to side with the anybody. Easily top 5 worst owners, not to mention he's too broke to be an NFL owner in 2025. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: When it comes to Bengals Owner vs Anybody.... Its an automatic to side with the anybody. Easily top 5 worst owners, not to mention he's too broke to be an NFL owner in 2025. Too poor? Anyway, it's a business. Any owner would and should take pause before agreeing to pay maybe 20 million more, per year, for one guy on one of the worst Defenses in the league. Quote
3rdand12 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I assume the "cast off" was Bosa. But with the draft investment with the guys we took among with Bosa and the PED twins, it's pretty clear that Beane has invested in DL this year and I would assume any other large investments in the spot is off the table for now. Players have gotten smarter. The ones on top of things do a "hold in" where they show to camp, attend meetings and lift..but don't partake in football activities. It does just enough to avoid the fines. 1st LOL at "PED twins" awesome I wonder if Beane ever wanted to make a run at Trey. I would have, AND spent for him. There were a few options pre draft. But Beane made a fine effort to upgrade the Whole Defense this offseason imho 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I would so gladly give up next years #1 for Hendrickson. You'd be the only GM in the world willing to do so. 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: This is getting ugly: Well color me interested now Beane get on the phone with his agent at least Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 5 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: Jones is the one id consider "iffy". Nothing about how he finished the season gives me hope he will contribute alot this year. All depends on how Carter and Walker look at camp too. Daquan looked done last year, if he declines in camp + 2 aforementioned players prove to be ready, then that 5th DT will be a placeholder/Prac Squad callup if needed for week 1-6. I was in the camp that we should have moved on from him. But I feel like if they felt the same way, they'd have worked harder early in Free Agency or higher in the Draft to sign and/or Draft a big time 1T. I think the plan is to rotate Jones more and keep him fresh. Move Sanders over there on obvious passing downs to rush alongside Oliver. But I really don't see much of a chance that they're going to hand the position over to a Round 4 Rookie coming off of a bad back and DeWayne Carter, who would be transitioning to 1T and honestly looked worse than Jones to end last season. 13 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I assume the "cast off" was Bosa. But with the draft investment with the guys we took among with Bosa and the PED twins, it's pretty clear that Beane has invested in DL this year and I would assume any other large investments in the spot is off the table for now. Exactly this. They extended Rousseau long term with an 80m deal. They paid Bosa 12.5m for 2025. They signed Hoecht to a long term deal for 21m. They Drafted Landon Jackson with Pick 72. You don't do all of that and then Trade a Day 2 Pick and pay a 9 figure contract to a guy to put over top of all of that. Quote
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