MVP hype for Allen

[Mikie2times]

Josh is still a pretty decisive favorite according to oddsmakers. It would take an epic performance on Christmas day to change anything. 

[Savage]

  On 12/24/2024 at 12:40 AM, julian said:

The MVP was won at Detroit, just win the last 3 regardless of stats against the Pats and Jets(unlike Lamar losing to Browns and Raiders) and finish 14-3 and it’s a lock

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When does voting take place?

 

[julian]

  On 12/24/2024 at 1:41 AM, Savage said:

When does voting take place?

 

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After the last game of the year and before the start of the playoffs 

[zow2]

As of tonight on BetMGM the odds are:

 

Josh -500

Lamar +350

Saquon +1400

Goff +2500

Mahomes +10000

Darnold +10000

 

Like others have said, still a sizeable gap between Allen and Lamar.  He could eat into it vs Houston on Wednesday.  Texans suffered some tough injuries and i think their LB that hit Trevor Lawrence still has to sit out this game, unfortunately.

 

Allen should play better this week vs Jets. The Bills were sloppy and McDermott hates that. I think they will come out and play well, maintain the 2 game lead over Baltimore and that should do it.  Let’s not choke this award away. 

[Doc Brown]

  On 12/24/2024 at 12:42 AM, UKBillFan said:

 

I did wonder whether Mahomes might miss out on the Pro Bowl this year. There's a viable argument for the starter and two reserves for the AFC to be Josh, Jackson and Burrow.

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Josh will get left out again.  Like last year.

[Goin Breakdown]

I'm beginning to hate this MVP talk. It's enough t to worry about the playoffs and SB. Yeah I'd love it for Josh but worrying about dropped passes and stats is just too much sometimes. 

[Scott7975]

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:36 AM, Goin Breakdown said:

I'm beginning to hate this MVP talk. It's enough t to worry about the playoffs and SB. Yeah I'd love it for Josh but worrying about dropped passes and stats is just too much sometimes. 

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I agree, I’m like obsessed with it at this point.  Can’t wait for it to be decided with soon enough.

[Kelly to Allen]

The foundational question the writers need to ask themselves is are they comfortable giving Lamar 3 MVPs in this era and Allen zero....

 

To me that's absurd, but maybe ppl feel differently. That doesn't make any sense in any universe. 

[Success]

  On 12/24/2024 at 9:16 AM, Scott7975 said:

 

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If I asked A.I. to create the most consistently annoying sports analyst I could imagine, it still wouldn't come close to this.

 

[Kelly to Allen]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:12 PM, Success said:

 

If I asked A.I. to create the most consistently annoying sports analyst I could imagine, it still wouldn't come close to this.

 

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Josh Allen was the number one graded QB from the pocket last year according to pff.

 

Allen has had dozens and dozens of games where he just dices teams up from the pocket. 

 

In his perfect game last year vs Miami in week 4, he barely ran or left the pocket.

 

Nick wright does realize Allen and Mahomes are Doppelgangers of each other right??? 

 

Nick the troll 🧌 

Edited December 24, 2024 by Kelly to Allen

[strive_for_five_guy]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:08 PM, Kelly to Allen said:

The foundational question the writers need to ask themselves is are they comfortable giving Lamar 3 MVPs in this era and Allen zero....

 

To me that's absurd, but maybe ppl feel differently. That doesn't make any sense in any universe. 

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I get this point, and if it’s close, that’s where as a voter I’d go Josh too.  This point aside, I think there’s lot of valid reasons that Josh has earned it this season anyway.  One thing he does that isn’t necessarily reflected in the stat sheet but impacts the W/L column are those 1 yard runs to keep drives moving.  Not sure how much Lamar is similar from that or not.  But to the extent voters have valued wins over stats alone in the past (ie Lamar over Josh last year), one more reason why 12-3 Josh gets the edge over 10-5 Lamar, in my book. 

[CincyBillsFan]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:36 AM, Goin Breakdown said:

I'm beginning to hate this MVP talk. It's enough t to worry about the playoffs and SB. Yeah I'd love it for Josh but worrying about dropped passes and stats is just too much sometimes. 

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Rest assured that Allen doesn't give a crap about this stuff.  What he really wants is a Super Bowl win and an MVP performance in that game and the playoffs getting there.

 

 

[DapperCam]

  On 12/24/2024 at 2:04 AM, Doc Brown said:

Josh will get left out again.  Like last year.

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Would actually be really funny for Allen to win MVP, but not get All Pro or Pro Bowl.

[CincyBillsFan]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:08 PM, Kelly to Allen said:

The foundational question the writers need to ask themselves is are they comfortable giving Lamar 3 MVPs in this era and Allen zero....

 

To me that's absurd, but maybe ppl feel differently. That doesn't make any sense in any universe. 

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An even more fundamental question these people need to ask themselves is what would Baltimore's record be if Jackson didn't play this year?  Then compare that record to what the Bills record would be if Allen didn't play this season.  That would decide things real quick IMO.

 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:30 PM, DapperCam said:

Would actually be really funny for Allen to win MVP, but not get All Pro or Pro Bowl.

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Acho just said Allen is 1st team all pro. 

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:31 PM, CincyBillsFan said:

An even more fundamental question these people need to ask themselves is what would Baltimore's record be if Jackson didn't play this year?  Then compare that record to what the Bills record would be if Allen didn't play this season.  That would decide things real quick IMO.

 

 

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Yup

[CincyBillsFan]

This should settle it between Allen & Jackson:

 

 

[The Jokeman]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:08 PM, Kelly to Allen said:

The foundational question the writers need to ask themselves is are they comfortable giving Lamar 3 MVPs in this era and Allen zero....

 

To me that's absurd, but maybe ppl feel differently. That doesn't make any sense in any universe. 

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Maybe some voters feel obligated to vote for Lamar just cuz.

[Process]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:30 PM, DapperCam said:

Would actually be really funny for Allen to win MVP, but not get All Pro or Pro Bowl.

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I fully expect Allen to not make the pro bowl. As long as players and coaches are the ones voting, Lamar and Mahomes are locks every year for the rest of their careers regardless of stats. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

  On 12/24/2024 at 4:28 PM, CincyBillsFan said:

Rest assured that Allen doesn't give a crap about this stuff.  What he really wants is a Super Bowl win and an MVP performance in that game and the playoffs getting there.

 

 

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Allen actually does have performance incentives surrounding winning MVP.  That said, his easiest path to finishing it off right now is just making sure the Bills get the 2 seed or potentially better still.  And I’m sure winning the SB would trump any bonus of winning regular season MVP aware.