I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better

[TheyCallMeAndy]

2 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

It is very rare that a OP is able to score every single emoji on a single post... you Sir are a true gentleman and scholar

 

I added the angry face so he could have all 12 emoji's!! 

[SoonerBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ya but you have to do something to help out your o line. Whether that's chipping, or keeping an extra guy into block. It's unacceptable to basically put your backup o lineman on an island against Will Anderson.

 

If you do leave 5 man protection, you NEED to have quick routes and not spam Mesh.

Joe Brady failed this offence in so many ways on Thursday night and it's remarkable Josh didn't leave with a serious injury 

How he still has a job today is beyond me.

[Gunsgoodtime]

2 hours ago, Low Positive said:

OMG!!!! Somebody said something positive about the Buffalo Bills on Two Bills Drive that turned out to be wrong! Let's bump the thread after loss!

It's been 2 years of this.  You participation folks can't say that its because of a loss

[SoonerBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's not news that the Bills do not have great coaching.   But who does?  

 

KC's HoF coaching staff can be cited for leaving wins on the table this year in the same regard.  

 

The Eagles won the SB last year with a sh!t show at HC and a DC who the Bills OC's repeatedly beat like a rented mule in Denver and Miami.   I mean how many times did the Bills make Fangio look like the game had passed him by?

 

Over the past couple of seasons I think the Bills rank higher as a coaching staff than as a roster.   That's a problem because their roster begins with player #1 in the league.   They just have ZERO elite talent at any other premium position.  

 

It's left little to no margin for error.  

 

And in that stretch of 24 wins in Brady's first 27 meaningful regular season games as OC they had just enough talent available to execute.   And what Brady was doing was seen as innovative.

 

In the 2 losses last year and the 4 this year the common thread is not having all of their "modest" pass game weapons available and subsequent turnovers with players trying to do too much.  

 

His #1 issue is predictability.   And for some reason he apparently didnt think DC's would look at game film in the offseason and adjust.

[Gunsgoodtime]

27 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I posted his pace from Tampa - end of the regular season of all the games he played, not his totals.

 

how is it that Brady doesn’t know how to use WRs but his 2023 efficiency was awesome?

 

Did Brady forget how to use him? Did Brady first forget Diggs instead of Shakir, and not forget how to use him until 2024?

We have a ton of evidence that this is who Shakir is at this point. We have zero evidence that he would be a 1100 or 1200 yard receiver elsewhere.

Shakir is a wr # 3 or #4 depending on where you list your slot on just about every other NFL team.  In Buffalo he is our #1.  Pure insanity.  No real #1 or #2 on the team its awful.  Even the announcers call it out on almost on a weekly  basis now

Edited 2 hours ago by Gunsgoodtime

[Buffalo Boy]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The one big swing he took was on Von. It was the right decision at the time and is the right decision with hindsight. It didn’t work out but you took the right big swing.

I would include Diggs which was a stellar signing

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Bills getting absolutely roasted on the cbs pregame and frankly, they deserve all of it. Team is trash 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

His #1 issue is predictability.   And for some reason he apparently didnt think DC's would look at game film in the offseason and adjust.

 

So what was Brady supposed to be able to change this season that he did not?

 

They basically replaced the 6 man OL and Hawes has been a revelation in that role as the Bills lead the league in rushing and yardage.

 

That was about the only adjustment he could afford to make.

 

They entered the season LESS imposing at the boundary WR position without the threat of Cooper and the reality of Hollins.

 

When players aren't making plays it's always cited as predictability............the problem is the talent.   

 

And with a revolving door at the WR/TE position every week people expect a bunch of new sh!t to get drawn up when Allen is indecisive enough.   

 

For some reason the takeaway from that Bucs game by some was THAT was the recipe........Allen was pressured ONE TIME the entire game and yet most everything he did well was off schedule.   He doesn't trust this personnel.   They are going to have to win off schedule.   This Texans team was a BAD one to have to play off schedule against.

[BillsFan130]

48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's not news that the Bills do not have great coaching.   But who does?  

 

KC's HoF coaching staff can be cited for leaving wins on the table this year in the same regard.  

 

The Eagles won the SB last year with a sh!t show at HC and a DC who the Bills OC's repeatedly beat like a rented mule in Denver and Miami.   I mean how many times did the Bills make Fangio look like the game had passed him by?

 

Over the past couple of seasons I think the Bills rank higher as a coaching staff than as a roster.   That's a problem because their roster begins with player #1 in the league.   They just have ZERO elite talent at any other premium position.  

 

It's left little to no margin for error.  

 

And in that stretch of 24 wins in Brady's first 27 meaningful regular season games as OC they had just enough talent available to execute.   And what Brady was doing was seen as innovative.

 

In the 2 losses last year and the 4 this year the common thread is not having all of their "modest" pass game weapons available and subsequent turnovers with players trying to do too much.  

 

Well you stated that Joe Brady isn't a problem, so I assumed that implies you think coaching isn't an issue. (Which contradicts your first point and I was giving examples how it was a major problem)

[Coach Tuesday]

Happy to see The Single Worst Take In The History Of TSW still lives on all these months later!

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

I posted his pace from Tampa - end of the regular season of all the games he played, not his totals.

 

how is it that Brady doesn’t know how to use WRs but his 2023 efficiency was awesome?

 

Did Brady forget how to use him? Did Brady first forget Diggs instead of Shakir, and not forget how to use him until 2024?

We have a ton of evidence that this is who Shakir is at this point. We have zero evidence that he would be a 1100 or 1200 yard receiver elsewhere.

 

We have a ton of evidence - you are just ignoring it.  

 

2023 as you pointed out showed he is more than just a short dump off threat when he had more yards than Diggs on half the targets.  So when he was OPPOSITE a legit WR1, he was used totally different and produced despite limited targets due to the target hog Diggs still was even in his short area use.  Diggs, who was the WR1, saw his production fall off a cliff despite the high volume - and why - because Brady STOPPED throwing to Diggs down field and FORCED a short throw attack with Diggs, just like he NOW uses for Shakir as our TOP option.  That is the Brady offense, and we have evidence of that with and without that top end WR1 option on the team.  

 

2024 now without a legit WR1 on the team and Shakir now more the lead WR based on personnel and usage, he was relegated to lots of short area work, but was still on pace for over 1000 yards had he not lost 2 1/2 games to injury and us sitting people week 18 - and again that does not even factor the several games where the Bills took the foot off the pedal in several blow out wins last year.  

 

The evidence clearly shows he is capable of more than how he is currently used in the Bills offense. What your issue is with this is puzzling to begin with. Like why do you care so much about capping his ceiling.  Especially for a guy who is special with the ball in his hands and has a high catch rate his whole career.  Neither myself or anyone else is arguing he is a WR1, but you have long had this agenda to limit what he can be for some reason.  No one is advocating him to be our top WR moving forward.   

 

If you don't think even just 200 more yards is possible with Andy Reid, Sean McVay, etc where he isn't being forced into one limited style and forced to be the lead WR then it doesn’t feel like you are very interested in being objective about it.  

 

 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Alphadawg7

[finn]

37 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

I would include Diggs which was a stellar signing

Diggs, yes, Von, no. Sorry, signing a 35-year old to a six-year contract made no sense at the time, and it makes less sense in hindsight. A two-year with more as an option, great, even in retrospect, when you're more aware of the injury factor for his age than you might at the moment. So I give him credit for a bold signing and take away the credit for an albatross contract. The Floyd signing was much smarter: low risk, high reward--and it paid off. 

[Kirby Jackson]

38 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Happy to see The Single Worst Take In The History Of TSW still lives on all these months later!

You know what’s funny is that this thread is from before LAST year. 🤣🤣 This was when they were about to run out Mack Hollins, Keon Coleman, Shakir and Curtis Samuel. Since then they added and subtracted Cooper. Hollins became Palmer, MVS & Jalen Virgil became Elijah Moore & Tyrell Shavers. Imagine feeling good about any of that?!? 🤣🤣

[Buffalo Ballin]

Tyrell Shavers is John Stallworth, remember that gem?

 

[Rocky Landing]

4 hours ago, Low Positive said:

OMG!!!! Somebody said something positive about the Buffalo Bills on Two Bills Drive that turned out to be wrong! Let's bump the thread after loss!

A gift from the "...hope I'm wrong (but not really)" crowd.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

So what was Brady supposed to be able to change this season that he did not?

 

They basically replaced the 6 man OL and Hawes has been a revelation in that role as the Bills lead the league in rushing and yardage.

 

That was about the only adjustment he could afford to make.

 

They entered the season LESS imposing at the boundary WR position without the threat of Cooper and the reality of Hollins.

 

When players aren't making plays it's always cited as predictability............the problem is the talent.   

 

And with a revolving door at the WR/TE position every week people expect a bunch of new sh!t to get drawn up when Allen is indecisive enough.   

 

For some reason the takeaway from that Bucs game by some was THAT was the recipe........Allen was pressured ONE TIME the entire game and yet most everything he did well was off schedule.   He doesn't trust this personnel.   They are going to have to win off schedule.   This Texans team was a BAD one to have to play off schedule against.

The problem is talent AND his crappy scheme/ playcalling.