OldTimer1960 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This is maybe the worst and least informed mock draft I can remember to have ever read in any year. I feel like this guy stole time from my life I can't get back. There apparently is a lot of buzz on Kneeland being a borderline late 1st early 2nd player among league guys. I don’t see it - wouldn’t even use pick 60 on him. It’s pure projection of his size and athleticism, apparently, because he didn’t exactly dominate the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: How Does KC Defense keep stopping elite offenses in the playoffs. How do you think they keep winning their division and the championships they have. They play great on the line of scrimmage and get stops on defense. It helps to play Denver, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles 6x/year with an elite QB when Justin Herbert is the best of the other 3. They also get to play Buffalo at some point in the playoffs and have their number. Ironically, their 2 seasons in the past 5 they didn't win the SB was against a top-end offense in Tampa Bay and against a Bengals team in the AFC CG that featured a healthy Joe Burrow, JaMarr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. You keep your head above water on defense and feature an elite offense against KC. Hard to win otherwise in the playoffs when all the marbles are there for the taking. They're coached well and resourced better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 41 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I thought the Bills would consider him which started a string of hate which picked up well in this thread. It's not uncommon for him to be mocked in the late first at this point. As I said in my other post he has physical traits in his arm length and wingspan that we clearly covet given our selection of AJ and Groot. It just wouldn't shock me if they feel he has a first round grade. Hoping we don't see this as well and I'm a WMU grad. I think you are over thinking AJE to be honest. DE was a major need and he was the top DE in a weak draft to find edge help. So weak, the top guy fell to us in the 2nd and he was the clear BPA and a pretty obvious choice for the Bills, so I think the arm connection here with Groot is more coincidence than a trait they covet to the point they would reach for a day 3 prospect at pick 28. And no disrespect, but I have to disagree about it being "not uncommon" to be mocked in the first. I have a hard time believing there are a lot of other mocks out there where he goes in the first given he is more often seen as a day 3 pick with potential to maybe go day 2. Edge does fall off early, so I can see him maybe getting into the 2nd round for teams in dire need of help there. But if I was to guess today, I think he more likely goes in the 3rd. I admit, anything is possible, so won't say never...but I would honestly be stunned to see him go in the first as he would be a massive reach and no where near BPA at any pick in the first IMHO. 12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: There apparently is a lot of buzz on Kneeland being a borderline late 1st early 2nd player among league guys. I don’t see it - wouldn’t even use pick 60 on him. It’s pure projection of his size and athleticism, apparently, because he didn’t exactly dominate the MAC. I can see the 2nd, edge drops off early, so a team desperate for help might reach. But at 28 and in this Mock, there are higher graded Edge guys still available before he has Kneeland go. But my comment on how bad this mock draft is was directed at the overall draft. I just felt like its a crazy mock top to bottom and I think its one of the worse ones I have seen overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 15 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: There apparently is a lot of buzz on Kneeland being a borderline late 1st early 2nd player among league guys. I don’t see it - wouldn’t even use pick 60 on him. It’s pure projection of his size and athleticism, apparently, because he didn’t exactly dominate the MAC. Reminds me too much of the McCargo pick back in 2006. The guy was viewed as a 3rd/4th rounder -- but leading up to the draft, suddenly his stock shot up. Of course, I have a great deal more faith in this current front office than I did in the one that oversaw that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Reuter is trying to read the tea leaves based on comments made by GMs in their OTA pressers and top 30 visits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 41 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I'm having Boogie Basham flashbacks again. Yep. Me too. Only without the athletic ceiling or decent level college production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Chad Reuter hates the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, QLBillsFan said: It’s not that the players he mocked to the Bills are bad. It’s about them being drafted way before their value. So the Bills would pass on Mitchell, Legette, and Franklin over Kneeland? Yikes. And it continued with other picks. Brutal value. Agreed. Reuter actually does a decent job having them address needs -- but his sequencing of when these players are selected is odd. Would the Bills really draft Wilson ahead of several other WRs that wind up being drafted in the 3rd round of this mock? I will say that if Reuter happened to have any inside knowledge (which I doubt he does), I would be highly annoyed if the draft went the way he has it going for the Bills without some serious TRADING DOWN happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I have no issue with them drafting an edge if all the WR with a first round grade are gone, but Kneeland wasn't even first team in the MAC. No freaking way. If they don't get a star WR in the first round, then I would prefer they go volume in the second and take two WRs. I have a hard time coming to terms with the on-paper downgrade at WR from last year that we would have with 2 second tier rookies penciled in for large roles. It would signify to me a rebuild/reset year. Generally the draft had been considered replenishment for the future - not filling immediate needs. The idea of a second tier WR being the Diggs replacement isn't right. Either a big 3 as Diggs replacement with a FA WR (OBJ/M Thomas) or a trade for a vet WR. I think J Jeff/Aiyuk/Higgins are too expensive ($ + draft capital) but there are others - D Metcalf/C Godwin/DHop/DJ Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I stopped reading when saw he had us taking a LB in Round 4. You think they don't need LBs? Did you watch KC playoff game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, noacls said: You think they don't need LBs? Did you watch KC playoff game? Injuries were an overwhelming factor at LB by that point in the season. Maybe they add one late in the draft to compete for the last spot on the roster, but no, they don't have a significant need for a LB unless they have concerns about Milano's return this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, Brandon said: Even Erik Flowers had good sack totals in his final year in college. Kneeland...best season was 4.5 sacks twice...and one of the worst 10 yard split times at the combine. He's getting some late 2nd projections, but seems like an early day 3 guy to me. If that's the pick, I think I'm just going to give up. Umm... he has a better 10 yd split than Oliver and Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, noacls said: Umm... he has a better 10 yd split than Oliver and Donald Apples to oranges. He's a DE. Those guys are DTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, Brandon said: Apples to oranges. He's a DE. Those guys are DTs. No, he is being talked about like Robinson from Missouri . Early downs at edge and pass rush situations. Also Donald was moved all over the line so not Apples and oranges. I don't want Kneeland either but he is an exceptional athlete. Does that mean he can play, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I like the Chiefs trading to 19 to take Worthy … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Mikie2times said: I thought the Bills would consider him which started a string of hate which picked up well in this thread. It's not uncommon for him to be mocked in the late first at this point. As I said in my other post he has physical traits in his arm length and wingspan that we clearly covet given our selection of AJ and Groot. It just wouldn't shock me if they feel he has a first round grade. Hoping we don't see this as well and I'm a WMU grad. I was dismissive of your opinion .. but he is certainly a late riser… I still haven’t convinced myself he will be a first round pick yet …. but i could see him now going early 2nd…. 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I hate it. I have a 5th round grade on Kneeland. He sucks. If the Bills take him it would tell people all you need to know about Miller … You wrote him off before the end of the last season right …? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: If the Bills take him it would tell people all you need to know about Miller … You wrote him off before the end of the last season right …? Yea I think Von is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yea I think Von is done. Jeremiah has Kneeland as his 45th best player. I don't profess to know anything. Why do you think he sucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I think Von is done. So what’s the plan then to replace him ? Find a scrub that’s left in FA ? Or just hope he comes good? The Bills had Kneeland in for a visit … and I don’t think he was there to provide some intel on the other Western Michigan prospects … he has got to be in play with their second …..looks like he is not going to last that long … but they are still going to have a hole to fill if you are right .. In Beane takes him at 28..he has officially jumped the shark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 hours ago, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said: Kneeland in round 1 sounds more like a move the Raiders would make Nah, he’s not fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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