How should we address WR?

[DJB]

We have too many needs to double dip early. I do think we are taking one in the first two rounds and possibly late but I don’t expect two to be drafted in the first thee rounds

 

[ddaryl]

I can see Beane trading up to the mid teens or lower 20's...... 

He has the ammunition to do more if he feels that strongly about those top 3 WRs... but my thoughts are he will do what he has done before and move up to grab proabably Adonai Mitchell if the run on WRs happens as expected

[bigK14094]

20 hours ago, freddyjj said:

I believe OBD has a few plans but the most likely scenario would involve a WR at 28 or a trade down from 28 into top of 2nd thus picking up a 3rd Rd pick as well.  Do see OBD picking 2 WRs; one with their 1st pick  (at 28 or lower) and another later but before pick 150.

Yes, two makes sense.  Shorter hasn't played a down so listing him as "in the room" is strictly to be correct, not that he is a player.  I think the Bills already know after watching him in practice in 23.  Shorter is another Isiah Hodgins, who the Giants poached, but chose this offseason to NOT resign.

[Bills_inthe6]

take the best available.....look at this crazy one that fell to me...

[RyanC883]

I'd trade up for Thomas, but the suggested trade seems too much.  Perhaps omit the 2025 or 2024 pick.  I'd also take another WR at 60.  

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Considering who will be available at 28, would prefer drafting Ladd McConkey, WR from Georgia or Xavier Leggett WR, So. Carolina.

However, since this is a fantasy, my preference would be to move back out of the first to the early 2nd, acquire enough draft capitol to move up from 60 and possibly get a late 3rd round pick as well.  

Still Draft McConkey or Leggett, then draft a DT with the move up from 60, and draft a WR, CB, S, or RB in the 3rd. 

  

 

 

 

[Charles Romes]

22 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Other.  Trade back from 28 for a team that wants an OT or Penix/Nix.  Take whoever is left from Legette,  Mitchell, Franklin, or Worthy.  Double dip in the 3rd or 4th round.  

Im worried we will do just that, Mitchell, Legette, and Worthy will be gone, and we will reach for Franklin. 

[chris heff]

19 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Trade for Justin Jefferson.  Minnesota is in full rebuild mode and a single WR won't get it done.  Give them #28 and a fourth this year, and give them back their #2 in 2025.  That should be enough.  

I would make that trade in a second, but don’t think it’s enough and Bills don’t have the cap space to pay Jefferson. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

6 hours ago, DJB said:

We have too many needs to double dip early. I do think we are taking one in the first two rounds and possibly late but I don’t expect two to be drafted in the first thee rounds

 

 

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

I'd trade up for Thomas, but the suggested trade seems too much.  Perhaps omit the 2025 or 2024 pick.  I'd also take another WR at 60.  

 

I hear you, DJB, but I don’t just need bodies at wideout, I need good bodies and if the next best player available at 60 (barring a trade down) is another WR there that they covet I am in.

 

 

Edited April 9 by dollars 2 donuts

[Ethan in Cleveland]

9 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I would make that trade in a second, but don’t think it’s enough and Bills don’t have the cap space to pay Jefferson. 

 

They can convert his salry to bonus and sign him to an extension to fit him in the cap this year. I think.

Plus you give up #28 so no cap expense for that pick. I think it would be doable with the cap savings you get next season by trading Diggs. 

[chris heff]

It is obvious that something was wrong at WR from about the middle of the 2022 season. I’m okay with blowing it up. Don’t think they have the cap space for a big trade. I don’t have a problem with double dipping, whether it is moving up a few in the first and staying put at 60, or vice versa. Go heavy on defense for rest of the draft. Bring in a veteran WR sometime in the summer.

[Victory Formation]

11 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

 

They can convert his salry to bonus and sign him to an extension to fit him in the cap this year. I think.

Plus you give up #28 so no cap expense for that pick. I think it would be doable with the cap savings you get next season by trading Diggs. 

Why not draft two young players on the cheap? Would you rather we pay Jefferson big money or draft two “good” players with high ceilings on cost controlled contracts? We already did this same very thing with Diggs.

 

Allen with two of either Legette, Worthy, Franklin, Pearsall, Polk or Burton is a very scary thought.

 

Lets get our very own Jefferson on a rookie contract.

Edited April 9 by Victory Formation

[chris heff]

1 minute ago, Victory Formation said:

Why not draft two young players on the cheap? Would you rather we pay Jefferson big money or draft two “good” with high ceilings players on cost controlled contracts? We already did this same very thing with Diggs.

 

Allen with two of either Legette, Worthy, Franklin, Pearsall, Polk or Burton is a very scary thought.

Kind of where I’m at.

[Victory Formation]

Just now, chris heff said:

Kind of where I’m at.

I mean, this is a crazy heavy draft at WR, why take on all that money that comes with a Jefferson or Lamb? Beane already paid Diggs $30M to not be on the roster this year, I’d hate to see Beane try and sell this one to Pegula.

[starrymessenger]

8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s certainly 1 for me too. The biggest difference between MHJ and the other top guys is that he’s basically “bust proof.” He has a HOF pedigree, elite physical traits and is polished. He’s also come through a WR factory and we have watched those guys transition seamlessly into the NFL. In my opinion, Harrison’s floor is Amari Cooper’s career. Basically, he will always be a top 10ish WR. At his ceiling he is a HOF player. There are other guys in this draft with that upside but they all come with a lower floor. 

To me, Odunze and Nabers are as bust proof as MHJ. That's an easy call imo. What's more difficult is to speculate on which one will be a better pro. I think Odunze could possibly transition the best of the three, though all should be great.  

[chris heff]

10 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

I mean, this is a crazy heavy draft at WR, why take on all that money that comes with a Jefferson or Lamb? Beane already paid Diggs $30M to not be on the roster this year, I’d hate to see Beane try and sell this one to Pegula.

And it’s not like they have nothing at skill positions, second half of last season production came from Shakir, Kincaid and Cook. 

[mjd1001]

You can get busts at WR in the early to mid first round, you can find pretty good guys late in the first round or even the 2nd round or 3rd round historically.  If someone presents you with a deal to move up that you can't pass up, then do it to get a higher rated guy. But I don't overpay to move up, or maybe even 'pay up' to market rate.  As others have said, you aren't totally devoid of weapons right now. Sure you'd like another one but its not sinking the team. Also, its obvious this year the team is in transition, this year, and likely next year, there is going to be a LOT of opportunity to fill spots on this roster for the next few years.  Beane has some misses drafting high, but also has made some good picks in the middle rounds. I want as many 'lottery ticket' middle round picks to see how many of those spots/holes can be filled around the entire roster.

[JDubya76]

I’m guessing Sir or Mister, but need to ask them what their pronouns are first for sure.

[Victory Formation]

14 minutes ago, chris heff said:

And it’s not like they have nothing at skill positions, second half of last season production came from Shakir, Kincaid and Cook. 

This is where I disagree. Beane made a power play by trading Diggs away and eating up all that cap space. He better deliver the goods and not come up empty handed. The pressure is on.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

36 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Why not draft two young players on the cheap? Would you rather we pay Jefferson big money or draft two “good” players with high ceilings on cost controlled contracts? We already did this same very thing with Diggs.

 

Allen with two of either Legette, Worthy, Franklin, Pearsall, Polk or Burton is a very scary thought.

 

Lets get our very own Jefferson on a rookie contract.

1. Jefferson is a top 3 WR and a proven superstar. He's still young and has many years of superstar status

2. The draft is a lottery and there is no guarantee the two young players will be any good

3. I want to win now at all costs.  

4. Yes they did the same thing with Diggs and it worked nearly perfectly.  He was a top 3 WR and the offense was amazing.

Edited April 9 by Ethan in Cleveland