New Buscaglia mock has Bills trading up to 7 for Malik Nabers

[BillsFanForever19]

I don't see Nabers lasting until 7. The first 3 Picks will be QB's. Then the next 3 Picks are all WR needy teams with Harrison and Nabers being the highest rated players on the board.

 

Even if one of them trades their pick to Minnesota, the other two will take Harrison and Nabers, or move their pick to someone who will. The 6th spot is the lowest you can go to land one of them, in my opinion.

 

As for the cost to do that, I see it as at least being:

 

1st, 4th, and 5th in 2024

1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2025

 

The cost in the Julio Trade from 27 to 6 was a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2011 and a 1st and a 4th in 2012. So to go from 28 to 6 - you'll need to match that and sweeten it a bit. 

 

I think the Giants will be more interested in '25 picks to get their QB they'll have missed out on this year. So we can get away with our 1st, 2nd, and 4th part of the deal not being this year but next year instead.

 

With that move and the projected comp picks - we could do that and still have fairly standard Drafts, minus the 1st next year. We'd take Harrison/Nabers and still have a 2nd, 4th, two 5th's, two 6th's and a 7th this year. And next year we'd still have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and two 6th's.

 

Would Beane do that? I don't know. But that's how I see it playing out if we wanted Nabers.

Edited April 5 by BillsFanForever19

[Victory Formation]

Would you rather:

 

A.) Trade up to #7 for Malik Nabers or Marvin Harrison Jr. for (2024 1st, 2024 4th and 2025 1st, 2025 2nd)

 

or

 

B.) Take a WR at #28 and package our #60 pick and a future 3rd to move to the top of RD2 to take a second WR of your choosing?

[TBBills Fan]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

Nice try, FBI.

I just need to know where to go to get my handy once I make the trade happen !

[TheBrownBear]

No thanks. Keep the picks and ride or die with Mack Hollins. On second thought...

[Mark Vader]

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’d do that in a heartbeat 

I would too, but would the Titans?

[Bill from NYC]

I have seen Nabers play and he looks like an excellent receiver. That said, this is not a move that I would be in favor of. 

 

In 2014, an undisciplined, impulsive Doug Whaley gave away the store for Sammy Watkins and it proved to be a disaster. True, we didn't have a decent QB on the roster (let alone a great one like Josh Allen) but if deals like this turn out to be a mistake they can cripple a team. This draft is said to be quite deep at the WR and OT positions. I favor staying put and filling the roster with early picks at these positions. 

 

I readily admit that I suffer from shell shock after decades of Bills stupidity and really do hope that McDermott surprises me and does this the right way.

Edited April 5 by Bill from NYC

[Warriorspikes51]

18 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Would you rather:

 

A.) Trade up to #7 for Malik Nabers or Marvin Harrison Jr. for (2024 1st, 2024 4th and 2025 1st, 2025 2nd)

 

or

 

B.) Take a WR at #28 and package our #60 pick and a future 3rd to move to the top of RD2 to take a second WR of your choosing?

neither player will be on the board at #7, but A for sure.

 

if we go with B, it could also be very cool…but less % chance of an elite player

[Cray51]

19 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Would you rather:

 

A.) Trade up to #7 for Malik Nabers or Marvin Harrison Jr. for (2024 1st, 2024 4th and 2025 1st, 2025 2nd)

 

or

 

B.) Take a WR at #28 and package our #60 pick and a future 3rd to move to the top of RD2 to take a second WR of your choosing?

Nabers.  

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have seen Nabers play and he looks like an excellent receiver. That said, this is not a move that I would be in favor of. 

 

In 2014, an undisciplined, impulsive Doug Whaley gave away the store for Sammy Watkins and it proved to be a disaster. True, we didn't have a decent QB on the roster (let alone a great one like Josh Allen) but if deals like this turn out to be a mistake they can cripple a team.This draft is said to be quite deep at the WR and OT positions. I favor staying put and filling the roster with early picks at these positions. 

 

I readily admit that I suffer from shell shock after decades of Bills stupidity and really do hope that McDermott surprises me and does this the right way.

since when is McDermott the GM?

 

Beane will do WAY more homework and research than Doug did

[Cray51]

2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have seen Nabers play and he looks like an excellent receiver. That said, this is not a move that I would be in favor of. 

 

In 2014, an undisciplined, impulsive Doug Whaley gave away the store for Sammy Watkins and it proved to be a disaster. True, we didn't have a decent QB on the roster (let alone a great one like Josh Allen) but if deals like this turn out to be a mistake they can cripple a team.This draft is said to be quite deep at the WR and OT positions. I favor staying put and filling the roster with early picks at these positions. 

 

I readily admit that I suffer from shell shock after decades of Bills stupidity and really do hope that McDermott surprises me and does this the right way.

Rookie Watkins with Allen is a 1400 yard rookie who makes the pro bowl.  Watkins had no one throwing his way 

[Bill from NYC]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

since when is McDermott the GM?

 

Beane will do WAY more homework and research than Doug did

McDermott is the power in this organization. He was here before Beane, got him hired and can get him fired. 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

McDermott is the power in this organization. He was here before Beane, got him hired and can get him fired. 

Shouldn’t your username be Sean from William & Mary 

[Logic]

26 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

I just need to know where to go to get my handy once I make the trade happen !

In all seriousness...

If you can make this exact trade happen, I'll get a deluxe manicure, give you my home address, and cook you lobster tails beforehand.

[BuffaloRebound]

If 4 QB’s go in the top 4 picks, I could see the Giants trading down for a haul of 2025 picks.  If one of the 4 top QB’s falls to 6, Giants probably pull trigger on on a QB, but that means Harrison and Nabers are gone anyway.  

I could see Beane having deal in place with Bears at 9 also if Odunze is there. Beane probably also has deal in place between pick 16 and 19 for Thomas.  If all 3 of those fall through, then we trade pick 28 for Aiyuk.  If that falls through, then it’s probably next years 1st for Metcalf.  Beane didn’t trade Diggs without at least a 5 deep contingency plan.  

Edited April 6 by BuffaloRebound

[RG Murdock]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Julio Jones trade is best comp.  Falcons gave up their 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks then next years 1st and 4th.  

And what did that insanity get them? A total collapse in the SB, and quick descent into irrelevance for years because they had two years with no impact draft picks. Bills desperately also need DL and safety help. Keeping their picks and getting McConkey or Legette, or one of those and maybe Pearsall as well would be fantastic. I'm glad no one posting here is the GM. Bills have too many needs. The Bills defense has been the main reason the Bills have not gotten the the SB. And this years version looks more suspect then ever. Gutting two years of draft picks is pure nonsense.             

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

And what did that insanity get them? A total collapse in the SB, and quick descent into irrelevance for years because they had two years with no impact draft picks. Bills desperately also need DL and safety help. Keeping their picks and getting McConkey or Legette, or one of those and maybe Pearsall as well would be fantastic. I'm glad no one posting here is the GM. Bills have too many needs. The Bills defense has been the main reason the Bills have not gotten the the SB. And this years version looks more suspect then ever. Gutting two years of draft picks is pure nonsense.             

They took Jones in 2011, they didn’t make the Super Bowl for a few years. There’s no real correlation. They just drafted horribly afterwards with massive busts like Takk McKinley 

[TheBeaneBandit]

38 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Would you rather:

 

A.) Trade up to #7 for Malik Nabers or Marvin Harrison Jr. for (2024 1st, 2024 4th and 2025 1st, 2025 2nd)

 

or

 

B.) Take a WR at #28 and package our #60 pick and a future 3rd to move to the top of RD2 to take a second WR of your choosing?

Probably B honestly.

[Bill from NYC]

16 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Rookie Watkins with Allen is a 1400 yard rookie who makes the pro bowl.  Watkins had no one throwing his way 

I agree and tried to make that clear.

11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Shouldn’t your username be Sean from William & Mary 

Believe what you will. If McDermott drafts a defensive player in round one, will you change your outlook?

[Georgia Bill]

4 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

And what did that insanity get them? A total collapse in the SB, and quick descent into irrelevance for years because they had two years with no impact draft picks. Bills desperately also need DL and safety help. Keeping their picks and getting McConkey or Legette, or one of those and maybe Pearsall as well would be fantastic. I'm glad no one posting here is the GM. Bills have too many needs. The Bills defense has been the main reason the Bills have not gotten the the SB. And this years version looks more suspect then ever. Gutting two years of draft picks is pure nonsense.             

It seems like most people on this board think the key to getting past the Chiefs and to the SB is "more offense".  A case can be made for more defense too.  As we have painfully seen, one or two key plays on defense can also be the difference in those tight games.

[sven233]

22 hours ago, NickelCity said:

MHJ nabers and odunze are the only players for whom a trade-up makes sense. Even so, if we do so and they are not perennial elite NFL WRs and quickly, we've mortgaged some serious draft capital with implications. It's a real risk.

 

While I like Odunze, I am not doing a trade like that for him.  Now, of course I could be wrong because who knows, but I think MHJ and Nabers are the only WRs worth doing a deal like this for.  It's a tough deal for sure, but I am at the point, and have been for a few years now, that I'm ready to go all in.  Not only am I making a trade like this for MHJ or Nabers, but I am also exploring the trade market for an established upper tier WR as well. 

 

My goal is to get 2 dominant WRs to pair with Samuel, Shakir, Cook, and Kincaid and just try to run other teams out of the stadium.  This focus on defense has not worked, and has actually cost us games.  Go all out for offense, find a way to get 4 stops on defense, and just try and blow teams out.

Edited April 6 by sven233