SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Choker, didn’t watch, choker, choker. or, alternatively, not as good as the other all time greats x 4. Unsurprisingly, part of approaching the best ever is playing your best in the biggest moments. You mean like giving your team the lead TWICE in less then 2 minutes only to have your moron for a HC not be able to defend for 13 seconds? I'm done responding to your trolling. Edited March 21 by SoonerBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The comments in this thread are embarrassing. He's as good or better than Mahomes? Josh is good enough so he doesn't have to work harder? What planet are you guys living on? This is the kind of thread that gets posted on other forums and those fans laugh at how delusional we are. The only thing Josh Allen has ever won in his life was a few division titles and the Idaho Potato Bowl. Get it together, you are embarrassing yourselves with your acceptance of mediocrity. 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I have just always hated thst they equate HOF caliber/ franchise QB with Superbowl wins. Allen is a damn good example as was Tarkenton, Marino etal. Allen has played damn well in the playoffs, but the team just couldn't seal the deal. I’m not saying Allen isn’t a franchise QB. I’m not saying he’s not a HoF QB. Hell, I think Allen is WAY better than Kelly, and he has less playoff accomplishments. I’m saying until he wins a Super Bowl, he’s not going to be mentioned alongside Brady, Mahomes, Manning etc. And those guys winning multiple, some with multiple teams, is what separates themselves from Marino and Tarkenton and Allen. That’s it. Edited March 21 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, KDIGGZ said: The comments in this thread are embarrassing. He's as good or better than Mahomes? Josh is good enough so he doesn't have to work harder? What planet are you guys living on? This is the kind of thread that gets posted on other forums and those fans laugh at how delusional we are. The only thing Josh Allen has ever won in his life was a few division titles and the Idaho Potato Bowl. Get it together, you are embarrassing yourselves with your acceptance of mediocrity. The bolded is....well, it's somethin'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The only upside of this thread is I got to put two trolls on the ignore list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: The comments in this thread are embarrassing. He's as good or better than Mahomes? Josh is good enough so he doesn't have to work harder? What planet are you guys living on? This is the kind of thread that gets posted on other forums and those fans laugh at how delusional we are. The only thing Josh Allen has ever won in his life was a few division titles and the Idaho Potato Bowl. Get it together, you are embarrassing yourselves with your acceptance of mediocrity. I wonder if TBD existed with the 4 straight SB team, folks would be posting in year 5 that Kelly is the best QB in football and he didn’t need to work on anything. Hell, maybe a lot of folks did feel that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, FireChans said: Marino might be one of the best QB’s ever to never win. But that’s a big asterisk and a reason why no one says, “it’s him and Brady as the two GOAT QBs.” Because that’s laughable. Marino couldn’t get by Kelly, who you labeled a choker. Guess it really is a team game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 43 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Top 2 qb in the league. Without him the Bills are nowhere. Who cares otherwise. Why realize your full potential? Hoooooooooray for Hollywood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: You mean like giving your team the lead TWICE in less then 2 minutes only to have your moron for a HC not be able to defend for 13 seconds? I'm done responding to your trolling. This may surprise you, but that wasn’t the Super Bowl. Agreed that was a bad loss and Allen deserves little heat for it. Brady and Mahomes have had bad playoff losses and still seem to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I’m not saying Allen isn’t a franchise QB. I’m not saying he’s not a HoF QB. Hell, I think Allen is WAY better than Kelly, and he has less playoff accomplishments. I’m saying until he wins a Super Bowl, he’s not going to be mentioned alongside Brady, Mahomes, Manning etc. And those guys winning multiple, some with multiple teams, is what separates themselves from Marino and Tarkenton and Allen. That’s it. THAT is a fair take. SB champions get talked about way more, because titles are a bigger part of NFL history. But that isn't as relevant to which QB's are actually better. I give Mahomes full props - but I just don't think he's significantly better than Allen. From my POV, I'd still take Allen over Mahomes. We still would have botched 13 seconds with Mahomes as our QB. Et al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: The only upside of this thread is I got to put two trolls on the ignore list. You’re the one that wants to get rid of Diggs at all costs right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just by the interviews last off-season I wish he'd work more on nutrition more to prolong his career as long as possible. Other than that I don't have much to criticize as we really don't know how much he does to improve his game each off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, HurlyBurly51 said: Marino couldn’t get by Kelly, who you labeled a choker. Guess it really is a team game. Kelly waited a bit longer to choke. 2 TD’s and 7 picks in four Superbowls? Woof. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Nope. Slacks like a mofo. Cut him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Success said: THAT is a fair take. SB champions get talked about way more, because titles are a bigger part of NFL history. But that isn't as relevant to which QB's are actually better. I give Mahomes full props - but I just don't think he's significantly better than Allen. From my POV, I'd still take Allen over Mahomes. We still would have botched 13 seconds with Mahomes as our QB. Et al. I don’t believe that you believe that. Rank these 3 QB’s. Brady, Mahomes, Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I don’t believe that you believe that. Rank these 3 QB’s. Brady, Mahomes, Marino. Believe what? That QB's aren't necessarily measured by titles? Brady Mahomes Marino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I don’t believe that you believe that. Rank these 3 QB’s. Brady, Mahomes, Marino. Is aikman better than Rodgers Ffs be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Marino was a better pure passer than anyone who has ever played (imo). But he could not run or scramble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Three things are guaranteed in life - death, taxes, and @FireChans making an appearance in a negative Josh thread. Just a matter of time before the rest of the skeptics show up. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 With this fanbase this question: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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