BillsFan130 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 35 minutes ago, Billl said: He's already got 3 void years on his contract. They're likely just converting as much of his base salary to a bonus as possible and spreading that amount over 4 years instead of just 2024. Ahh ok thanks. I didn't know you could do that with only one year left on the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Ahh ok thanks. I didn't know you could do that with only one year left on the deal That's the beauty of accounting. Technically, it's not his last year in the deal. He has "4" years left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Mango said: Can somebody explain to me how a restructure works in the last year of a players contract? Add void years like they did with McGovern? Or possibly they added a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Tough decision. But on the field and cap wise. Keeping Douglas over White is the right move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I still say if the new DB coach feels he can get Elam up to speed, move Douglas to Safety. Then do an extension at a safety rate of pay. The guy plays the position (CB) IMO opinion as well as any Bill has recently, not sure id risk moving him to safety. Id be more open to Elam being moved honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 But but but...Beane talked about him in the past tense at his presser🤣 jfc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Mango said: Can somebody explain to me how a restructure works in the last year of a players contract? Void year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: But but but...Beane talked about him in the past tense at his presser🤣 jfc Cuz Beane liked what he did for us last year we brought him back for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Void year. Yeah, that is what I thought. I am being super pedantic, but I wish it was reported as "added a void year" rather than "restructure". I get it. It is a restructure....but also it kind of isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, The Jokeman said: Cuz Beane liked what he did for us last year we brought him back for another year. No, people were running with the quote that Beane said he liked what he "brought to the defense" instead of what he brings, so of course that was interpreted as past tense and meant he was getting released to save the cap space. smh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: But but but...Beane talked about him in the past tense at his presser🤣 jfc How’s that looking now …? 😀 I got a gut feel that Douglas is on this team come Week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: How’s that looking now …? 😀 I got a gut feel that Douglas is on this team come Week 1 It was so dumb, but people ran with it🤣 smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 11 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: But but but...Beane talked about him in the past tense at his presser🤣 jfc Everything is a negotiation.........I expect Beane was working on his agent for a pay cut. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Billl said: That's the beauty of accounting. Technically, it's not his last year in the deal. He has "4" years left. But wouldn't that fall under "void year's " technically though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I was worried we’d let him go. Definitely want him around, even if for one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: But wouldn't that fall under "void year's " technically though? As I understand it (and that’s a massive disclaimer), the whole point of void years is that they are real years contractually, but both parties have the right to opt out of them and they’re written such that there is effectively a 100% chance that one of the parties will exercise that option. For example, Rasul is (was) allowed to agree to play for $850,000 a year in 2025 through 2027 as long as both he and the Bills agree to it. There is just nothing that binds either side to adhere to the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 So no extension for Douglass, do you guys think that is what the Bill wanted, what Douglass wanted? I assume they tried an extension but could not agree on numbers so they reduced his cap by adding void years. I was hoping for an extension guess. Also, can someone explain his void money, same thing existed with Leanard Floyd. SPotrac has restructure bonus as 0.812.5M for the next three years but a cap hit of all of that, 2.4375M next year. I think if he is not signed longer term, they take the entire void hit next year? I don't understand why they show additional void money in 26 and 27. I am nearly positive it is not all additive. Is that to average down the salary to bonus conversion or something? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/rasul-douglas-21841/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Of course we all don't mind when cap space is freed up, and the player gets his salary as a signing bonus. But do these restructures simply free up cap space... or kick it down the road in future dead cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I see Douglas still has $6m counting as a “base salary” for 2024… couldn’t more of this figure been converted to a “restructure” freeing up more space this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: So no extension for Douglass, do you guys think that is what the Bill wanted, what Douglass wanted? I assume they tried an extension but could not agree on numbers so they reduced his cap by adding void years. I was hoping for an extension guess. Also, can someone explain his void money, same thing existed with Leanard Floyd. SPotrac has restructure bonus as 0.812.5M for the next three years but a cap hit of all of that, 2.4375M next year. I think if he is not signed longer term, they take the entire void hit next year? I don't understand why they show additional void money in 26 and 27. I am nearly positive it is not all additive. Is that to average down the salary to bonus conversion or something? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/rasul-douglas-21841/ This is just my guess based on absolutely nothing other than how I look at it. I would think the Bills approached him about an extension. Especially with shedding Tre White. But I think the Bills wouldn't want to invest too many years into a guy his age. I'm guessing the two sides didn't agree on length and/or compensation. One reason I believe the Bills wouldn't want to invest too long into Rasul (aside from his age) is wanting to see if Elam takes a leap this year much like we have seen in the past from guys in their 2nd and 3rd year. They may or may not have something in him...but if they do it wouldn't make sense to have a guy like Douglas getting big money as an aging CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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