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2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

^^^^^^^^^

 

The script to demonize anything not msm/dnc narrative. 

 

Example of the iron law of projection

 

Both in one post.  Impressive.

aww.  has the mean old establishment been unfair to you?  learn the game.  don't change the rules.

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54 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

an apt description of many.  I guess it takes one to know one...

Yup, all the undesirables that do the majority of fighting and dying for God and country along with all the heavy lifting that keps civilization runing need to realize challenging the superior intellect and moral standing of the left is futile.  Thank you for setting everyone straight. All need to realize the error of their ways and bow to your self-acclaimed wisdom and infallibility. 

Joe Biden is the best President ever and although he demonstrates no visible means of generating the income necessay to support the lifestyle of his family through any traditional or legal means he's a squeaky clean guy.  How wonderful for our country to have such a glorious and effective leader. 

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4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Yup, all the undesirables that do the majority of fighting and dying for God and country along with all the heavy lifting that keps civilization runing need to realize challenging the superior intellect and moral standing of the left is futile.  Thank you for setting everyone straight. All need to realize the error of their ways and bow to your self-acclaimed wisdom and infallibility. 

Joe Biden is the best President ever and although he demonstrates no visible means of generating the income necessay to support the lifestyle of his family through any traditional or legal means he's a squeaky clean guy.  How wonderful for our country to have such a glorious and effective leader. 

yup, it's truly undesirable to have any group use lying, cheating, propaganda, threats of violence and actual violence, hate speech etc as the mechanisms of their attempts to overturn a government.  I think we've seen this movie before...

 

No one I know of has ever said the bolded part but decent attempt at a straw man.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Westside said:

FIFY

The irony is beyond astounding but you don't have the intellect to comprehend.   You are a poster who has not once posted anything in this forum that isn't a right wing talking point.  

 

And now...which part is incorrect?  Let's hear it.  Use your words to explain.   

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Here's your explanation.

 

The FBI lies.

 

They are weaponized for political purposes

 

They will lie to help dems.

 

They will lie to hurt certain republicans.

 

Simple.

 

The DOJ and FBI have a lot of explaining to do about their reliance on the informant whose allegations were included in the FBI-generated FD-1023.

 

- Why did they use this informant, who officials claimed was highly credible, since 2010?

 

- Why did they pay the informant six figures?

 

- Why did the DOJ sit on serious allegations from the informant whom the FBI deemed highly credible for years before investigating the claims?
 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Here's your explanation.

 

The FBI lies.

 

They are weaponized for political purposes

 

They will lie to help dems.

 

They will lie to hurt certain republicans.

 

Simple.

 

The DOJ and FBI have a lot of explaining to do about their reliance on the informant whose allegations were included in the FBI-generated FD-1023.

 

- Why did they use this informant, who officials claimed was highly credible, since 2010?

 

- Why did they pay the informant six figures?

 

- Why did the DOJ sit on serious allegations from the informant whom the FBI deemed highly credible for years before investigating the claims?
 

 

 

 

Its just another in a series wild coincidences that a highly reliable confidential informant employed for 15 years by US intelligence and law enforcement that has been providing accurate and valuable intelligence with the lone exception being he "made up" information on Biden's illegal activities.   

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It is interesting to watch Republicans (read: Trumpists) try to develop a response to this devastating blow to their impeachment case. Right now, it's all over the place.

 

Try this one: "Of course informants are unreliable and in it for themselves; see Ray Epps. But even without the man we described as our key witness, there's still plenty of evidence of corruption." 

 

Or this one: "The informant was reliable, but when he pointed the finger at Hunter and Joe the FBI concocted a case against him! It's the Deep State again."

 

What you will never hear: "Based on new information, we are suspending the impeachment inquiry until the evidence beyond that of Smirnov is reassessed." We are refocusing on the use and abuse of paid informants by federal law enforcement agencies."

 

That would be a rational response. This isn't about rationality, it's about scoring political points.

 

The way the right-wing opinion machine works, the official talking points/desperate attempts to save this impeachment "inquiry" will be out later today. 

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40 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It is interesting to watch Republicans (read: Trumpists) try to develop a response to this devastating blow to their impeachment case. Right now, it's all over the place.

 

Try this one: "Of course informants are unreliable and in it for themselves; see Ray Epps. But even without the man we described as our key witness, there's still plenty of evidence of corruption." 

 

Or this one: "The informant was reliable, but when he pointed the finger at Hunter and Joe the FBI concocted a case against him! It's the Deep State again."

 

What you will never hear: "Based on new information, we are suspending the impeachment inquiry until the evidence beyond that of Smirnov is reassessed." We are refocusing on the use and abuse of paid informants by federal law enforcement agencies."

 

That would be a rational response. This isn't about rationality, it's about scoring political points.

 

The way the right-wing opinion machine works, the official talking points/desperate attempts to save this impeachment "inquiry" will be out later today. 

Meanwhile, anyone here ordering Russian dressing on their dinner salad is immediately accused of being a Russian sympathizer by you and others.  But its completely and totally outside the realm of possibilities that the authorities arrest of this guy is in any way or form politically motivated.  You can make up a 1,000 and 1 excuses but none of them provide any evidence to dismiss this possibility.

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5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:


you sure are doing a lot of crying nowadays

 

Do you say the same thing to the TDS sufferers who spew Trump BS every second, every minute, every hour, every day 365/24/7?

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24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

There are people on that list that have actively ignored subpoenas. I’m not quite sure what good it would do.
Republicans out of the majority of the house, and then issue those subpoenas


Yeah - let’s see what happens when they ignore the DOJ.

 

 

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We all know that the Biden’s made money selling political influence.

 

1). That’s obvious.  I mean, seriously, even those who support Joe Biden, that’s obvious, correct?

 

2). Can that be proven with concrete evidence?  Doesn’t seem likely right now. 
 

Two things can be true at the moment. 

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Looks like you guys really got taken for a ride on this one. You should be angry at Jordan and that other clown. They obviously knew this long ago. Everyone knew before the last election that there was nothing to the Biden/Ukraine story yet you all chased it for 3 years. Think about all of the time you wasted spreading fake twitter takes. It’s quite remarkable. You didn’t listen.  We knew the conspiracy was fake even before Giuliani went overseas to help Russia peddle the idea that Ukraine was behind the hacks, etc., and not Russia. You’ve been chasing the same nonsense that oligarchs fed Rudy ever since. Always the same conspiracy with laptops, and EMAILS, and super duper corruption but the main characters change.

 

Meanwhile, Trump is trying to figure out how to declare bankruptcy for the tenth time before his NY assets are stripped from him. His abortion plan leaked which is pretty lethal heading into the election. Criminal charges also incoming soon. He’s stealing all of the party’s money. It really can’t be worse for the GOP right now. It’s gonna be a bloodbath.

 

What a mess!!!

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2 hours ago, SCBills said:

We all know that the Biden’s made money selling political influence.

 

1). That’s obvious.  I mean, seriously, even those who support Joe Biden, that’s obvious, correct?

 

2). Can that be proven with concrete evidence?  Doesn’t seem likely right now. 
 

Two things can be true at the moment. 

What’s obvious to me is that Hunter Biden may have sold to people that he could provide influence

 

There is absolutely no proof that Joe Biden was involved in any of it. It cannot be proven any different, and the case that the Republicans are trying to bring him is falling apart by the day.

 

Something is not obvious whenever you have no proof

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“Smirnov was not at the dinners and meetings where Joe Biden called in to chat. He was not the recipient of messages from Hunter threatening that his father was ‘sitting next to’ him and waiting for transfers of money. He was not the source of gifts and expense accounts to cover Hunter’s lavish lifestyle.

 

“Most importantly, Smirnov was not the reason that Hunter was indicted by the same prosecutor, David Weiss, who just indicted him.”

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On 2/15/2024 at 7:02 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-charges-fbi-confidential-source-alexander-smirnov/story?id=107275129

 

 

The article says Republicans claim this doesn't undermine their investigation.   It does.  But two tiered justice system!!!!!!!

 

Step 1 of charges against Joe falling apart.

 

All those deposits from what ever company or country to the Biden family isn't proof enough for a in depth investigation but the Steele dossier is ???????

 

Now that's American "political"  justice at it's finest !! 🙄

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3 hours ago, BillStime said:

Of course they knew - Trump’s DOJ told them… but when you have Karen Psyop’s out there willing to run w anything - why not?

 

 

 

WOW isn't it amazing how the statement at the top of the video resembles exactly what Hillary did with the Steele dossier ?

 

Even though she & her party paid for it & knew it was total BS (& was later proven to be as much) from the start they still put the info out there then spent 4 years trying to make every one believe that it was true .🤔

 

American political system at it's finest !! Lie, Lie , & Lie some more !!! 

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