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If McDermott doesn’t get it done, would the Bills bring in Shanahan if he left SF after next season?


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24 minutes ago, Gregg said:

2018 AFC championship game at Arrowhead.  Pats 37 Chiefs 31. Just saying if you are looking for a coach to beat Reid in a big spot.

Yeah, look at all those NFL teams needing a new HC passing on that guy...

 

Most of the world has come to realize that most of the success of those Patriots teams comes back to the QB who left NE and went to TB and WON another SB with them.

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10 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

seems to me like we have a serious coaching problem and hopefully it gets addressed next off-season.

Okay, we'll call this Corollary One to the Schottenheimer Rule - If one part of the team hasn't performed in the past, that part of the team will continue not to perform in the future unless the coach is changed.  It's the same thing.   You're assuming that the future will be the same as the past, and that the people responsible for the past cannot improve.  

 

People change and get better at their jobs all the time, year after year.  

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10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Okay, we'll call this Corollary One to the Schottenheimer Rule - If one part of the team hasn't performed in the past, that part of the team will continue not to perform in the future unless the coach is changed.  It's the same thing.   You're assuming that the future will be the same as the past, and that the people responsible for the past cannot improve.  

 

People change and get better at their jobs all the time, year after year.  

That's why he has next yr if he doesn't get better do u agree we need an upgrade at that point. Let's say we lose again 31-28 in playoffs u keeping him. ? 

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3 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

That's why he has next yr if he doesn't get better do u agree we need an upgrade at that point. Let's say we lose again 31-28 in playoffs u keeping him. ? 

No, I don't agree.   Coaches improve year after year.   McDermott is way, way up the learning curve, and he's 49 years old.  Pete Carroll didn't win the Super Bowl until he was 63.  When he was 49, he was fired after three dismal seasons as head coach of the Patriots - Bill Belichick almost immediately turned the team into a winner.   Pete Carroll learned a lot between age 49 and age 63, and McDermott will.  

 

The only difference between McDermott and whomever the Bills might hire to replace him is that the guy they hire will have to learn more than McDermott has to learn to succeed.   

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2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Give Mcd Brock Purdy and see what world he'll live in! 😂

 

Does he get the rest of the San Fran roster too? Because we saw who Brock Purdy was when Williams, Deebo and McCaffrey missed 3 games didn't we? And that was with Aiyuk and George Kittle and all those guys on defense. 

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4 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Give Shannahan a Josh Allen and he wouldn't be able to afford McCaffrey, Deebo, Kittle, Aiyuk and their Defense, The things that have made SF the best in the NFC.

 

But the Bills don't have any of those guys.  Kyle would simply bring in talent to fit his system.  

 

Josh is of the caliber where he can elevate the guys around him.  

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39 minutes ago, BattlinBill said:

And yet another McDermott thread......

 

I just checked in to see if “it” has been defined. Does he have to win the SB? Is once enough? Does he have to cover the spread?  

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2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

If I was starting a team, I would want Shanahan over McDermott but I respect both of them as frankly great coaches.   My post was snarky/sarcastic in that Shanahan is in a similar position, sure he has made 2 SB's in SF but you have to win.   He had leads in both and failed to close.  Was that all him?  No I don't think so but this board would not stand for losing super bowl's.  Getting there is not the goal, you have to win it and in that way Shanahan and McDermott are similar.  Heck they have both been beaten by Mahomes and Reid more than once in the playoffs in close games.

 

No doubt, it's not good enough to just get there, but we know that he can and with various talent at the QB position.  

 

It would be a promising outlook.

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44 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Yeah, look at all those NFL teams needing a new HC passing on that guy...

 

Most of the world has come to realize that most of the success of those Patriots teams comes back to the QB who left NE and went to TB and WON another SB with them.

 

Bill's defense also played a part in those Super Bowls. Like the 13-3 win over the Rams. Was it the whopping 13 points they put up or Bill's D shutting the door and holding them to 3 points. Or even the 20-17 win against the Rams in the Pats first Super Bowl win. How about the INT at the end the Super Bowl against the Seahawks that preserved the win. How about making in game adjustments against the Falcons when they fell behind 28-3 only to shut them out the rest of the way so the Pats could come back and win in OT 34-28. Brady was a huge part of the dynasty but so was Bill.

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6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

McDermott will be here long past the point in which no wants him here. It doesn't matter if he misses the playoffs next year. I hate everything I just said but it's how I see Terry managing this. 

 

I agree with you if they have another winning season where they win the division and get back to the divisional round again. But missing the playoffs. I don't know about that. Terry is getting ready to ask Bills fans to dig deeper into their wallets for season and individual tickets as well as PSL fees as 2026 isn't that far off. He doesn't want a bad team going into the new place. The stadium will buy Terry a year. Bills fans will be curious to check the place out and see everything the new stadium offers. Once the "new-ness" of the place fades then good luck to Terry selling tickets with a bad team.

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9 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:

All speculation but an interesting angle if both McDermott and Shanahan leave their respective teams after next season. 
 


 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/will-kyle-shanahan-eventually-need-a-fresh-start

 

 

 

 

Pegula loves McD…therefore, McD isn’t going anywhere. Not this year, next year or the years after that.

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