Special K Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Traded 28 to GB for 41 and 58 41. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 58. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky 60. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M 100. Maason Smith DT LSU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 35. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. Ben SinnottTE Kansas State 90. Blake CorumRB Michigan 100. Maason SmithDT LSU 129. Cam HartCB Notre Dame 159. Keith Randolph Jr.DT Illinois 162. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 198. Trey TaylorS Air Force 202. Jalyx HuntEDGE Houston Christian 206. Sione VakiS Utah 246. Ryan FlournoyWR SE Missouri State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 28 Byron Murphy DL | Texas 60 Braden Fiske DL | Florida State 99 Calen Bullock S | USC 129 Cade Stover TE | Ohio State 159 Javon Solomon EDGE | Troy 162 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice 198 Cedric Johnson EDGE | Mississippi 202 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 206 Ryan Flournoy WR | Southeast Missouri State 246 Jaylon Carlies S | Missouri 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wow would many of you HATE this one. Those first two picks are DUDES, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: Wow would many of you HATE this one. Those first two picks are DUDES, though. Yeah - this one won't do at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Trading back out of the first is like a cheat code with PFN's simulator. Stupid value all over the place in this mock. Sign me up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 39. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 70. Austin BookerEDGE Kansas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 159. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 162. Trey TaylorS Air Force 198. Evan WilliamsS Oregon 202. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 206. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 246. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 2025 KC 2nd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 39. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 70. Austin BookerEDGE Kansas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 159. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 162. Trey TaylorS Air Force 198. Evan WilliamsS Oregon 202. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 206. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 246. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 2025 KC 2nd Who did KC get with our 1st rd pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Really like the prospects chosen in this one, with one trade back out of the 2nd rd. Those b2b LSU DTs are pretty cool. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 28: R1 P28 DL Byron Murphy - Texas 60: R2 P28 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 98: R3 P34 WR Johnny Wilson - FSU 128: R4 P28 S Tykee Smith - Georgia 161: R5 P25 EDGE Marshawn Kneeland - Western Michigan 164: R5 P28 LB Trevin Wallace - Kentucky 195: R6 P20 G Joshua Gray - Oregon State 199: R6 P24 C Dylan McMahon - NC State 203: R6 P28 CB Zy Alexander - LSU 247: R7 P28 WR Drake Stoops - Oklahoma 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 🚨🚨Pump the brakes lol on Pro Football Network's simulator🚨🚨 Did a little experiment where I did NOT choose a team and just let the entire draft run, and here are Buffalo's picks (they did not trade at all). I don't think the logic of this model is buttoned up, exactly. 2 CBs and 4 Ss, and 2 RBs. Bills gonna play a 3-2-6 or even 2-2-7 defense in 2024, apparently. Kool-Aid McKinstry - CB Cole Bishop - S Blake Corum - RB DeWayne Carter - DT Demani Richardson - S Ray Davis - RB Trey Taylor - S Jay Stanley - S Jarvis Brownlee - CB Khari Coleman - LB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: 🚨🚨Pump the brakes lol on Pro Football Network's simulator🚨🚨 Did a little experiment where I did NOT choose a team and just let the entire draft run, and here are Buffalo's picks (they did not trade at all). I don't think the logic of this model is buttoned up, exactly. 2 CBs and 4 Ss, and 2 RBs. Bills gonna play a 3-2-6 or even 2-2-7 defense in 2024, apparently. Kool-Aid McKinstry - CB Cole Bishop - S Blake Corum - RB DeWayne Carter - DT Demani Richardson - S Ray Davis - RB Trey Taylor - S Jay Stanley - S Jarvis Brownlee - CB Khari Coleman - LB 2nd automated mock I ran resulted in 4 safeties again. Funny stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Success said: Yeah - this one won't do at all. Right. I’d hate this with everything I have 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Trading back out of the first is like a cheat code with PFN's simulator. Stupid value all over the place in this mock. Sign me up. Much better. I don’t like the RB. But everything else is awesome 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Really like the prospects chosen in this one, with one trade back out of the 2nd rd. Those b2b LSU DTs are pretty cool. Like this one even more. What’s with the early rd RBs tho? If they take a 3rd round RB again I’ll rip my tv off the wall. I agree we need a body there but Cook has proven capable and shouldn’t spend the resources on one so early with all the needs we have 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Who did KC get with our 1st rd pick? It wasn't Thomas, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 31 2024: Round 2, Pick 63 2024: Round 4, Pick 132 San Francisco Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 130 2024: Round 5, Pick 166 Minnesota Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 129 My Selections 31 Troy Franklin WR | Oregon TRADE 60 Braden Fiske DL | Florida State 63 Calen Bullock S | USC TRADE 99 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas 130 Tykee Smith S | Georgia TRADE 132 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State TRADE 159 Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE | Washington 162 Andrew Raym IOL | Oklahoma 166 Jordan Jefferson DL | LSU TRADE 198 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 202 J.D. Bertrand LB | Notre Dame 206 Dwight McGlothern CB | Arkansas 246 Anthony Gould WR | Oregon State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, mrags said: Right. I’d hate this with everything I have Much better. I don’t like the RB. But everything else is awesome Like this one even more. What’s with the early rd RBs tho? If they take a 3rd round RB again I’ll rip my tv off the wall. I agree we need a body there but Cook has proven capable and shouldn’t spend the resources on one so early with all the needs we have Value was only screaming RB or LB, if I recall. Cook is halfway through his rookie deal already, and isn't the best blocker or short yardage, power back. Love Cook's talent, but there is a need for a complimentary guy who has some traits. And, in the event of injury, another guy who can attack defenses. (That being said, don't love Estime's feet tbh.) The draft is for adding cost-controlled talent on a longer timeline than next season. The Bills currently have NOTHING in the RB pipeline behind Cook. (And yet, I understand how unpopular a 3rd rd RB pick would be.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Value was only screaming RB or LB, if I recall. Cook is halfway through his rookie deal already, and isn't the best blocker or short yardage, power back. Love Cook's talent, but there is a need for a complimentary guy who has some traits. And, in the event of injury, another guy who can attack defenses. (That being said, don't love Estime's feet tbh.) The draft is for adding cost-controlled talent on a longer timeline than next season. The Bills currently have NOTHING in the RB pipeline behind Cook. (And yet, I understand how unpopular a 3rd rd RB pick would be.) I understand all of that. Except you are almost hoping you can get someone that plays significant time with the 3rd pick. At least this year with our holes and needs. Could take a RB in rd 5 or after to come in and do what you’re hoping. JMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mrags said: I understand all of that. Except you are almost hoping you can get someone that plays significant time with the 3rd pick. At least this year with our holes and needs. Could take a RB in rd 5 or after to come in and do what you’re hoping. JMO While that is true the 3rd round is also a place where you still don't reach down a tier to take a position you need. Obviously for this exercise we are all using the simulator's draftboard as if it were our own so to play that out in round one I never reach beyond the top 5 players on their board. Round 2 not beyond the top 8 and rounds 3 and 4 not beyond the top 10. After that I give myself a little more leeway because that is realistic. Once you get to rounds 5 through 7 teams are looking at their rosters and saying "where might these guys have the best chance to stick." But earlier reaching through tiers is a no-no. So you have to either take trades and move back, trade UP or sometimes take a position that isn't necessarily a need. I say all that as someone who also does not want yet ANOTHER day 2 pick on a running back. When you have an established starter at the spot that should be a no-no too. I normally try and do a 4 round mock in the final day or two of the run up where I use the simulator but use my own board and mark guys off in the background as it goes. Edited March 1 by GunnerBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: While that is true the 3rd round is also a place where you still don't reach down a tier to take a position you need. Obviously for this exercise we are all using the simulator's draftboard as if it were our own so to play that out in round one I never reach beyond the top 5 players on their board. Round 2 not beyond the top 8 and rounds 3 and 4 not beyond the top 10. After that I give myself a little more leeway because that is realistic. Once you get to rounds 5 through 7 teams are looking at their rosters and saying "where might these guys have the best chance to stick." But earlier reaching through tiers is a no-no. So you have to either take trades and move back, trade UP or sometimes take a position that isn't necessarily a need. I say all that as someone who also does not want yet ANOTHER day 2 pick on a running back. When you have an established starter at the spot that should be a no-no too. I normally try and do a 4 round mock in the final day or two of the run up where I use the simulator but use my own board and mark guys off in the background as it goes. I like the idea of picking players not outside the top available at the time. I don’t go by that generally because for example, if a QB is there we aren’t taking one. And while I do see the point of it as taking the best football players available at the time I also have an issue with it if you already have someone at that position, OR if it’s a position that can generally be found later in the draft. RBs are a dime a dozen and have short shelf life’s. I get the idea of continuing to draft one. Hell, almost all my mocks have Jawhar Jordan in them. I love the kid. But I also wouldn’t reach earlier than rd5 to do it. It’s not that I don’t think a certain player may not be good enough, it’s the holes and needs we have vs the resources to get them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) My first mock of the day. Profootballnetwork has changed their layout again. Not a fan of the changes. But I was pretty pleased with the draft. Lots of trades back for extra picks. Used them on positions of need where our holes were mostly. 41. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 58. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M 60. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina 100. Jaden Hicks S Washington State 145. MarShawn Lloyd RB USC 159. Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE Washington 162. Tyler Davis DT Clemson 184. Omar Speights LB LSU 198. Sundiata Anderson EDGE Grambling State 202. Andrew Raym OC Oklahoma 206. Anim Dankwah OT Howard 219. Mark Perry S TCU 243. Nelson Ceaser EDGE Houston 246. Storm Duck CB Louisville Edited March 1 by mrags 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 44. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 77. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 100. Cade StoverTE Ohio State 129. Kitan OladapoS Oregon State 159. Zion Tupuola-FetuiEDGE Washington 162. Luke McCaffreyWR Rice 198. Trey TaylorS Air Force 202. Jalyx HuntEDGE Houston Christian 206. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 246. Jaden CrumedyDT Mississippi State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Unrealistic, I know. Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 61 2024: Round 3, Pick 92 2024: Round 6, Pick 207 Detroit Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 3, Pick 100 2024: Round 5, Pick 154 2024: Round 6, Pick 191 2024: Round 6, Pick 218 Los Angeles Receives: 2024: Round 3, Pick 99 My Selections 28 Brian Thomas Jr. WR | LSU 61 Braden Fiske DL | Florida State TRADE 92 Calen Bullock S | USC TRADE 100 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas TRADE 129 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State 154 Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE | Washington TRADE 159 Kitan Oladapo S | Oregon State 162 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice 191 Tanor Bortolini IOL | Wisconsin TRADE 198 J.D. Bertrand LB | Notre Dame 202 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 206 M.J. Devonshire CB | Pittsburgh 207 Fabien Lovett DL | Florida State TRADE 218 Matthew Jones IOL | Ohio State TRADE 246 Myles Cole EDGE | Texas Tech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, mrags said: My first mock of the day. Profootballnetwork has changed their layout again. Not a fan of the changes. But I was pretty pleased with the draft. Lots of trades back for extra picks. Used them on positions of need where our holes were mostly. 41. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 58. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M 60. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina 100. Jaden Hicks S Washington State 145. MarShawn Lloyd RB USC 159. Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE Washington 162. Tyler Davis DT Clemson 184. Omar Speights LB LSU 198. Sundiata Anderson EDGE Grambling State 202. Andrew Raym OC Oklahoma 206. Anim Dankwah OT Howard 219. Mark Perry S TCU 243. Nelson Ceaser EDGE Houston 246. Storm Duck CB Louisville I see you did the trading 28 to GB for 41 and 58 like I did on my last mock......if Thomas Jr is off the board, I wonder if Beane would be willing to make a move like this.....seems like there is a lot of value in the 2nd round this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I grabbed Daniels to trade for an early 1st rounder next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 26 minutes ago, Special K said: I see you did the trading 28 to GB for 41 and 58 like I did on my last mock......if Thomas Jr is off the board, I wonder if Beane would be willing to make a move like this.....seems like there is a lot of value in the 2nd round this year. Yup. Personally don’t think Franklin will be there at 41. But I really like the extra pick at 58. If we could do this and end up with something like Sweat at 41 and then a trade back up into the 40s for Mitchell I’d do it in a heartbeat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Traded 60, for 65 and Jeremy Chinn. DRAFT SELECTIONS PICK: 28 RND: 1 (BUF) Keon COLEMAN WR Florida State PROFILE PICK: 65 RND: 3 (BUF) Austin BOOKER DE-EDGE Kansas PROFILE PICK: 99 RND: 3 (BUF) Cam HART CB Notre Dame PROFILE PICK: 129 RND: 4 (BUF) McKinnley JACKSON DL Texas A&M PROFILE PICK: 159 RND: 5 (BUF) Ainias SMITH WR Texas A&M PROFILE PICK: 162 RND: 5 (BUF) Isaac GUERENDO RB Louisville PROFILE PICK: 198 RND: 6 (BUF) Andrew RAYM C Oklahoma PROFILE PICK: 202 RND: 6 (BUF) Solomon BYRD DE-EDGE USC PROFILE PICK: 206 RND: 6 (BUF) Zion LOGUE DL Georgia PROFILE PICK: 246 RND: 7 (BUF) Trey TAYLOR S Air Force 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 28. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 129. Sedrick Van PranOC Georgia 159. Zion Tupuola-FetuiEDGE Washington 162. Patrick McMorrisS California 198. Jaden CrumedyDT Mississippi State 202. Jalyx HuntEDGE Houston Christian 206. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 246. Trey TaylorS Air Force 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 28. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 129. Sedrick Van PranOC Georgia 159. Zion Tupuola-FetuiEDGE Washington 162. Patrick McMorrisS California 198. Jaden CrumedyDT Mississippi State 202. Jalyx HuntEDGE Houston Christian 206. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 246. Trey TaylorS Air Force The interior DL would be NASTY!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: The interior DL would be NASTY!!!! Except putting both of these guys on the field would mean Oliver is off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 R1:28 ADP Adonai Mitchell Texas WR GRADE A+ R2:60 ADP Tyler Nubin Minnesota S GRADE A R3:99 ADP Austin Booker Kansas EDGE GRADE B R4:128 ADP Brenden Rice USC WR GRADE A R5:158 ADP Jordan Jefferson LSU DL GRADE A R5:161 ADP Mekhi Wingo LSU DL GRADE A R6:197 ADP Javon Solomon Troy EDGE GRADE B R6:201 ADP Isaac Guerendo Louisville RB GRADE D R6:205 ADP Trey Taylor Air Force S GRADE C R7:245 ADP Andrew Raym Oklahoma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 28: R1 P28 WR Troy Franklin - Oregon 60: R2 P28 S Tyler Nubin - Minnesota 98: R3 P34 S Cole Bishop - Utah 128: R4 P28 TE Ben Sinnott - Kansas State 161: R5 P25 DL DeWayne Carter - Duke 164: R5 P28 EDGE Austin Booker - Kansas 195: R6 P20 EDGE Brennan Jackson - Washington State 199: R6 P24 DL Fabien Lovett - Florida State 203: R6 P28 WR Luke McCaffrey - Rice 247: R7 P28 CB Andru Phillips - Kentucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Traded 28 to the Titans for 38 and their 1st next year. Traded up in the 2nd and 3rd: 38. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 47. T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas 89. Cole Bishop S Utah 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 38 minutes ago, Special K said: Traded 28 to the Titans for 38 and their 1st next year. Traded up in the 2nd and 3rd: 38. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 47. T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas 89. Cole Bishop S Utah Would do it in a heartbeat. What did you have to give up to get the 48 and 89 picks? Do you still have the 1st next year? What other picks did you have this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, mrags said: Would do it in a heartbeat. What did you have to give up to get the 48 and 89 picks? Do you still have the 1st next year? What other picks did you have this year? IIRC, I had to give up this years 4th and 5th and next year's 3rd, but I held on to the next years first......I'd love to have 2 1st's next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, Special K said: IIRC, I had to give up this years 4th and 5th and next year's 3rd, but I held on to the next years first......I'd love to have 2 1st's next year. I don’t really know anything about next years draft. But we’ll probably need it. I’m sure we’ll have a lack of a pass rush again and McDefense will feel the urge to jump up to the top 10 for a pass rusher. Honestly, I’d be ok with it. But would also have thought about trading that 1st next year for more picks this year. Keeping as many picks in the top 100 as possible. But like I said, I don’t know anything about next years draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I’m in love with this mock 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bills6969 said: I’m in love with this mock I really like this one. Maybe trade one OLine man for another WR. And we dont need 2 RBs. Id change that for a DLineman. Edited March 2 by wppete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I’m a fan of trading back to early 2nd. A lot of good WR or DT can be had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 28. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 60. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 100. DeWayne CarterDT Duke 129. Jermaine BurtonWR Alabama 159. Tykee SmithS Georgia 162. Demani RichardsonS Texas A&M 198. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 202. Sundiata AndersonEDGE Grambling State 206. Decorian PattersonCB UCF 246. Kendall MiltonRB Georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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