NickelCity Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Yep unless I trade the farm for the top 3, in draft McConkey at 28 and trade up on the 2nd to take legette Due to physical traits I think Legette will go before McConkey, but I'd be happy with either. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Well then, BTJ + trade a 6th for Terrace Marshall & grab Bub Means or…wait for it….good Lord yes. 60 + 2025 2nd for DK Metcalf 28 + other 2025 2nd for BTJ Ooooo yeaaaa COOKIN!!!!👨🍳 Edited April 5 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 really surprised MHJ is that high. AD Mitchell has elite hands 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why didn’t Ladd McConkey have more production? Had a back injury all of last season, missed time, GAs QB play was less than ideal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Is there a medical issue with Mitchell? I thought that I heard them allude to one on SiriusXM, but I didn’t hear what the issue might be. I can’t find anything about one on the net. Anyone hear about a medical on Mitchell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 17 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Is there a medical issue with Mitchell? I thought that I heard them allude to one on SiriusXM, but I didn’t hear what the issue might be. I can’t find anything about one on the net. Anyone hear about a medical on Mitchell? A high ankle sprain cost him almost the enitre 2022 season. That’s the only injury I know about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 18 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Is there a medical issue with Mitchell? I thought that I heard them allude to one on SiriusXM, but I didn’t hear what the issue might be. I can’t find anything about one on the net. Anyone hear about a medical on Mitchell? Thought I heard he has diabetes, not positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Thought I heard he has diabetes, not positive You are right https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/vr2/2021-wr-adonai-mitchell-has-vols-at-the-top-with-another-sec-school (very bottom of article) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 when is the last time a team went btb with wr picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Nabers reminds me of Tyreek Hill. Pure explosiveness. I like Odunze too, but Nabors and Harrison Jr. to me are worth any trade up if somebody in top 5 or 6 is willing to do a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Now that I’m paying attention more that diggs is gone it is wild to see the discrepancy between wr rankings out there. After the top 3 it’s like a total toss up when ranking 4 through 15. I know it’s a deep and solid class but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it. For example that guy Brett Whitefield has Roman Wilson and Ricky Pearsall going in the first round and Thomas jr going in the second. He’s really low on the Texas receivers too but is also high on Burton. Crazy how people can have 3-4 round grades on some of these guys while others have 1-2 round grades and vice versa. This draft class is giving me a headache. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Ronde Barber has him rated #4 Edited April 5 by Solomon Grundy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Finally got around to watching film of Javon Baker and Jermaine Burton, so I'm up to 23 receivers now. Not sure if I'll ultimately get around to more or not...I had Malik and Tahj Washington circled as two that I wanted to watch but I just don't know if I'll ultimately have the time to get to them. I still have to finish up a few QBs as well. Anywho, sort of brief notes on these two guys as well as where I slot them in in my rankings: Javon Baker Good release package off the line Good body control to hang in the air combined with strong hands makes him a good contested target guy Sets DBs up well, decelerates, changes direction, etc. Ran a lot of vertical routes at UCF but he seems to have the tools to be a good route runner Pretty average acceleration and long speed, that combined with the diet of vertical routes may have contributed to him having one of the lowest "open" ratings in the class per PFF Pretty strong physically, but had a few times across the games I watched where he just allowed DBs to push him tight up against the sideline and basically make it impossible to make the catch in bounds. Kind of just gets in the way as a run blocker vs. someone like Coleman who you legitimately want to design run plays towards Ultimately got an early 2nd round grade from me for his film which puts him at the tail end of the top 10. #10 in terms of my metrics rating as well. Jermaine Burton Effortless speed Impressive ball tracking on the deep ball Will continue to work his way open when his QB is buying time, which could pair very nicely with Allen Strong hands, physical at the catch point Does a nice job of varying speeds in his routes, getting into the DB's blind spot, etc. Has a tendency to run his routes standing straight up/almost running on his tip toes, led to some awkwardness getting in and out of his breaks. Generally poor effort as a run blocker Got an early 3rd round grade from me for his film, #15 in the class. #20 in terms of my metrics rating. Overall Rankings 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Ronde Barber has him rated #4 Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 Edited April 5 by Solomon Grundy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Just watching the combine on the ole DVR. Leggette is just built different from everyone else. His physique is impressive, but looks a little stiff in drills. Coleman probably next most impressive pysique. Franklin looks anorexic. Mitchell looks the part. Jacob Cowing is impressive as well. McKonkey is silky smooth. And our WR coach is running drills down there getting a first hand look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Skip ahead to the 23 minute mark they start talking about WR comps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, DCOrange said: Finally got around to watching film of Javon Baker and Jermaine Burton, so I'm up to 23 receivers now. Not sure if I'll ultimately get around to more or not...I had Malik and Tahj Washington circled as two that I wanted to watch but I just don't know if I'll ultimately have the time to get to them. I still have to finish up a few QBs as well. Anywho, sort of brief notes on these two guys as well as where I slot them in in my rankings: Javon Baker Good release package off the line Good body control to hang in the air combined with strong hands makes him a good contested target guy Sets DBs up well, decelerates, changes direction, etc. Ran a lot of vertical routes at UCF but he seems to have the tools to be a good route runner Pretty average acceleration and long speed, that combined with the diet of vertical routes may have contributed to him having one of the lowest "open" ratings in the class per PFF Pretty strong physically, but had a few times across the games I watched where he just allowed DBs to push him tight up against the sideline and basically make it impossible to make the catch in bounds. Kind of just gets in the way as a run blocker vs. someone like Coleman who you legitimately want to design run plays towards Ultimately got an early 2nd round grade from me for his film which puts him at the tail end of the top 10. #10 in terms of my metrics rating as well. Jermaine Burton Effortless speed Impressive ball tracking on the deep ball Will continue to work his way open when his QB is buying time, which could pair very nicely with Allen Strong hands, physical at the catch point Does a nice job of varying speeds in his routes, getting into the DB's blind spot, etc. Has a tendency to run his routes standing straight up/almost running on his tip toes, led to some awkwardness getting in and out of his breaks. Generally poor effort as a run blocker Got an early 3rd round grade from me for his film, #15 in the class. #20 in terms of my metrics rating. Overall Rankings Case in point, you have legette as your #17 and I’ve heard people saying now he could be gone by #28. Also you have Coleman at 5 and others saying he’s more like 12. Can’t separate and is just a jump ball guy. Has there even been such a big discrepancy in rankings that anyone remembers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 12 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: really surprised MHJ is that high. AD Mitchell has elite hands Yeah, but take a look at his contested catch rate. Pretty meh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Nabers reminds me of Tyreek Hill. Pure explosiveness. I like Odunze too, but Nabors and Harrison Jr. to me are worth any trade up if somebody in top 5 or 6 is willing to do a trade. Odunze too is well worth a big trade up imo. His physical ability is matched by outstanding intangibles. So important to evaluations. So I think there are three and possibly four (Thomas) legit targets for a Josh Allen type move up. Quite possibly one or perhaps a couple of the four drop a bit below what is expected just based on how the board falls out. All of that would support a big move up because the strategy would have a very good chance of producing a positive result. After all the four, all of them, project as nothing less than elite at the next level and rookie year #1s. I think Beane is seriously considering it. I think I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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